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Torn ACL ahead of charity 100 mile ride

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum. Been checking out the reviews and content on road.cc for nearly two years now, but the day has come when I need your advice. About 4 weeks ago I was beginning this years riding with the goal of taking part in a 100 miler in the name of Alzheimer's in June. I have always held a reasonable fitness level through visiting the gym 3 to 4 times a week and playing football (this doesn't translate into the best fitness type for cycling). I was playing football on that fateful night, turned on the spot to chase down a ball and bam my right leg has collapsed on me. Everything from the knee and above has rotated 90 degrees but my Tib, fib and ankle have stayed planted in the ground. Leaving me unable to take any weight off my trailing leg, the knee has dislocated and left me in a crumpled mess on the floor. The NHS have been fantastic getting me under the knife for a knee arthroscopy within 2 weeks, where they diagnosed cartilage tear, chondral flap damage and unfortunately a complete tear of my anterior cruciate ligament. My question is how long will it take to get back on the bike after the first surgery, what are the implications of riding without an ACL and will I able to get enough training in my legs to be able to complete the charity ride? I say the first surgery as it is likely that they will be going back in to reconstruct the ligament. I'm working on this being after the charity event as if it is before then it's game over unfortunately as it is quite a lengthy rehabilitation.

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tsmith2456 | 9 years ago
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I ruptured my ACL some 30 years ago and it was undiagnosed for 20 years, I've never had it repaired and providing I keep my muscle tone up around the knee I don't have instability problems. Surgery can have complications, especially on the knee. I both cycle and run a lot without problems so your long term prognosis should be good but you'd do best to avoid knee twisting sports.

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Richard GS | 9 years ago
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Lots of good advice above, but I'll chip in my 2 cents' worth.

I had my ACL reconstructed on 14th May last year (I tore it years ago but it healed well enough for me to go 6 to 9 months' at a time before tearing it again...). I finally had enough of spending about 4 weeks a year on crutches...

Anyway, getting back on a bike was quick: I managed my first full rotation of a pedal about 2 weeks after the operation, and was cycling about 1 week later (when I say cycling, I mean gentle commutes in low gear). It was a lot easier to cycle than to walk of crouch, since a bicycle restricts one's movement and prevents any twist on the knee. The real worry - and this is not trivial - is not cycling per se but getting on or off the bike, and taking a fall: that is likely to send you right back to hospital, since during all this time (and for about 4 - 6 months after the operation) the knee is fragile as the transplanted ligament vascularises and bonds with what remains of the torn one.

Anyway, I didn't fall, and by week 6 was out doing 100km rides, and on 14th July got up Mont Ventoux (from Bedoin) - all the time praying for no mishap, and staying within what I felt the knee would take. And that is the trouble: there *IS* no typical recovery. I was lucky (no fall or twist), and intuitively felt when I was getting to my knee's limits (and had further luck that my intuition seemed to have been correct).

In sum, stay within what you feel is possible, get the knee moving as soon as as you can, and see how it goes. Good luck.

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Andyjones59 | 9 years ago
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As a side note I have been spending my 6 weeks off from work researching carbon wheels, frames, seat posts, handlebars... This enforced break could work out extremely costly. There's even an entry into my notes app titled dream machine.

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Andyjones59 | 9 years ago
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That's fantastic advice Jo Thankyou. I have been working quite hard with the physio since the op. They gave me some initial exercise plans to do upon release from hospital and I have stuck to them. I'm having physio twice a week and she has moved me on to squats, walking lunges some football control work and a few others. My range of motion is improving which can only mean progress. I have been struggling to control the pain with standard medication, it usually tends to flare up after stretches and exercise. I'm glad that skiing has been mentioned as this was one of my main concerns. After a week in the Alps my legs and knees were ready for a holiday and this was when they were healthy. I was concerned that the damage would inhibit me from skiing again, but it's great to know that someone has crossed that bridge and found it ok. Thanks for all you advice and support everyone.

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bikemadjo | 9 years ago
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Hi

Having done a less severe version of what you did (Only completely tore my ACL) playing football.

I had my ACL repaired as i was lucky enough to be determined as highly active.

If they aren't going to repair your ACL before the charity event then cycling won't be a problem as the ACL is there to stop twisting of the knee (which there is very little of in cycling) but it might be worth having a shoe/cleat fitting to ensure that you are only moving your knee in one plane of movement i.e you knee isn't swinging in or out on the full rotation of the pedal.

Rehab wise i was completely weight bearing after about 4/5 weeks without crutches and running again after 7-8 weeks, so i think it is reasonable to be back on the bike doing light riding after 6 weeks(ish) and to build up from there onwards. My Mother has 2 torn ACLs and completed the Ridelondon100 (86 last year) in a very respectable time.

Key to ensuring you will be in the best condition for the ride will be strengthening the muscles around the knee to support whilst the ACL is not there and trying not to do to much heavy weight bearing exercise.

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matthewn5 | 9 years ago
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My wife did her ACL skiing and was treated via NHS. They didn't replace it but gave her a tough programme of physio for about 6 weeks. She kept up the exercises for months and to cut a bit of a story short was skiing again 12 months later - in fact she is stronger on that leg than she was before. So it will be ok! But give it time, you can always do the century next year.

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Matt eaton | 9 years ago
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I hate to say this, as I'm not in any way anti-NHS, but when it comes to treatment and recovery from the perspective of an athlete (however amatuer) it's very difficult to get the best and fastest result without private treatment. I've had recent experience with private healthcare vs. NHS for broken wrists and the differences have been vast. The NHS consultant felt that physio was *unnecessary* but the private care that I received recognised that it would be *beneficial* and it's certainly helped me to get back on the bike sooner.

I can't offer any advice on your specific injury other than to consider the care and treatment that you are getting. If stability of your knee is an issue a knee brace of some sort might allow you to ride sooner but get professional advice on the subject.

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joemmo | 9 years ago
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Andy, when I had my achilles injury I used to use an online forum for general grumbling and support. It was really useful to read other people's rehab progress and post your own - but important not to follow other people's advice if it sounded risky  1 It can be a real downer when something like this happens but you can use it to focus on being fitter / stronger when you recover.

I'm trying to find the site... maybe it doesnt exist any more - but will post it here if I can find it.

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Andyjones59 | 9 years ago
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It's great to get some constructive input. Anybody who sees me on the crutches with my knee bandaged seems to think that I would like to hear the story of their great great great next door neighbours half step sons friend who damaged their knee playing tiddly winks and now cannot walk. I appreciate their input, as I do everyone's but combining that with my own downbeat outlook really hasn't helped. I only found out that the ACL was torn after the knee arthroscopy when they were in there to cut back all the cartilage as it was causing my knee to lock whilst bent. I had gone into hospital that day seeing that procedure as being a means to an end, consultant had told me that once the anaesthetic had worn off I would most likely walk out unaided and back to full fitness within 4-6 weeks. To say I was a little set back once they dropped the news of the torn ACL on me is an understatement. I was pretty deflated. Your comments are really helping in giving me a more positive approach so Thankyou for that.

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Nick0 | 9 years ago
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Sorry to hear this Andy wishing you better. I fortunately haven't done ACL but have a mate who's had his done twice (and subsequently posted a good time at last year's Pru100) so if you have the motivation you'll get back on the bike.
I did however tear my articulate cartilage (playing fecking footie, like you) quite badly which left me needing keyhole surgery to trim it. I spent a couple of weeks after the op hobbling around on crutches and got myself back on the bike earlier about a fortnight earlier than the surgeon/physio expected, partly cos walking was a pain and annoying.

Cut a long story short I was back running within a few months and played footie about 6 months later; this proved that my rehab was complete. I don't play very much at all nowadays, got a young son and some lovely bikes to ride instead!

If your physio recommends that you attend a 'lower limb clinic' as part of the rehab then you will most likely be in a group with older folks, they may not be appealing at first, but GO, these were seriously good for my rehab as they had all sorts of machines to help the knee get back to normal. I'm now cycling 110-140 miles a week on my commute, so you will recover.

All the best hope you're back to full fitness soon.

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Leeroy_Silk | 9 years ago
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Snapping your ACL is quite common place in my cycling world; BMX. My own ACL is ruptured and has been for quite some time. The only time it really causes me issues is when I forget about the inherent instability, twist it and subsequently dislocate the joint (usually happens when I'm rock climbing). I also have friends with similar situations. One thing that really helped us all was having strong and developed quads. The quads alone help stabilise the knee to some extent.
I saw a specialist recently with the view to getting fixed and was told the following recovery times: investigative arthroscopy, two weeks recovery. Full reconstruction: up to six months for full recovery. This will be where having strong quads will help reduce recovery time as they'll provide some support. My plan is to ride, race and rock climb as much as normal and go under the knife at the start of winter when I'm less active.

It seems the main difference with your injury is the cartledge damage, it's an unknown to some degree and may heal differently. Injuries can be unique and should be assessed and treated differently. The best advice I can offer is to listen to your doctors but more importantly your own body. You and only you'll know what you can achieve comfortably. Don't go destroying yourself for the sake of it but pushing yourself just a little can really help recover.

All the best!

One more thing, I can give you the details of my specialist, I chose him on the basis of him being a specialist in sports injuries to knees and would hopefully give me a fair assessment based on me rather than just being treated like just another job on the screwed knee human conveyor.

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Andyjones59 | 9 years ago
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The main thing is that you still made the catch, putting your body on the line for the cause. I do have some stability, but the easiest way of describing my knee is like it is sat in jelly. I currently have little faith in it and need to work on my confidence as to what It's capabilities are. My physio has told me that they will only do the reconstruction once I have built the thigh muscle up to what it was before I went on the crutches so I'm currently doing static stretches and movements. It is going to be a long road, but from your experience at least I know I'll be back on my bike.

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exilegareth replied to Andyjones59 | 9 years ago
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I'm just coming to the end of a rehab programme for a damaged ACL / MCL. I also have precious little cartilage left in the knee in question and underwent arthroscopy six years ago. (It's my left knee, I'm an ex tighthead prop - it's been in the wars for the last thirty odd years).

The instability / jelly knee thing is very familiar to me. My NHS physio has been great with me, devising and implementing standard resistance exercises using latex bands to build up my thigh muscles and get me back to stability, and to a balance between the two legs. Don't skimp on this kind of work - it's invaluable.

I've backed this up with some one legged cycling on the static bike, and some work on road sessions to make sure my pedalling is balanced. That led to an interesting change in riding style- I noticed that because I usually unclip on the left, my right leg does more work, so next week I'm off to the local industrial estate to do an hour of practicing unclipping right, then left, then right, to make sure both legs work equally on my commuter rides. My rehab started in January, and right now I'm pretty happy, even though I've not been very consistent in following instructions.

Will you be fit for your 100 miler? I don't know, but I'm betting on being fit for the Borderlands 100k over some of the prettiest roads in the UK - in May - and I'm doing 45 miles with friends on Sunday to check where I am.

Good luck.

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CapriciousZephyr | 9 years ago
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You have my full sympathies. The description of your injury was highly reminiscent of an afternoon a long time ago when I tried to pivot to catch an American football thrown behind me, and my left foot just didn't release from the sticky ground, causing both my ACL and MCL to snap (I still made a great one-handed catch of the ball, though  16 ). As it's only your ACL that's torn, you'll have more stability in the knee than I had, and I'm glad you seem to be getting more proactive treatment than I was. The NHS put me in a cast, gave me crutches, and told me just to rest it as much as possible and come back in six weeks, at which point they'd re-evaluate it and decide if I'd need surgery. A couple of weeks later it was the Easter holiday, and I went back home to Austria and saw a surgeon there who took completely the opposite approach. He cut off the cast, told me to walk around as much and as normally as possible, and sent me to a physio saying that he wanted me to have huge thigh muscles by the time I came back for an operation in the summer. So I was able to do a lot, but, in contrast to you, I didn't have any cartilage damage, and I don't know how that will impact you.

The rehab after my ACL repair took a long time, and it was weeks before I even got back enough range of motion to get on the bike. However, I understand that there are now better ways to perform that surgery, so I hope you would have a quicker rehab.

Best of luck for a full and speedy recovery.

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Andyjones59 | 9 years ago
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Thanks for your reply. With it being such a rushed trauma Operation I didn't get to see my consultant who was operating until around 5 minutes before they operated. Previous to that I had seen 3 or 4 different doctors all who were trying to sign me off from work, I was more preoccupied with trying to argue that I was fit for work than the ride. I have spoken with the NHS physio after the procedure about being fit to ride and she advised that it is possible that I could be riding, but she isn't sure as to the quality of my legs. You are correct in saying they are a lengthy healing process. For now I just want to get back on the bike, was hoping people on here may have experience of a similar injury/procedure and could give a rough estimation of the time from scalpel to pedal.

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joemmo | 9 years ago
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Commiserations - that sounds like a nasty injury. I'm sure with the right training and rehab you'll be back on the bike but you need to do it right and not push back too early, even though you feel you are letting the charity down. I am no expert but 3 months to recover and train for a 100 mile ride sounds optimistic / risky.

More importantly though, did you ask the consultant for their opinion? They should be in the best place to give you a considered view rather than someone random on an internet forum who knows nothing of the particulars of your injury or physical state.

FWIW I ruptured an achilles tendon a few years ago, also playing football (gave it up after that) and the rehab was long and frustrating but you have to take it as it comes. It's good to have some goals to aim for though as long as you are realistic about them and prepared to adapt as you go.

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