Getting a taste for bike week

@jackcycles London is indeed a bubble but I can assure you those exact same people live everywhere. Unless by "revert to normal" you mean just the average level of twattery from drivers in this country.

"We need to take the “them and us” mentality out of society" ...unless the 'them' is Londoners and the 'us' is the rest of the country? There will be more aggressive motorists per square mile in London because there are more people per square mile in London, so the same proportion gives you a higher total incidence, not because they're "more aggressive as a group".

Can confirm that wounded pride at "lack of respect from the 'other' " (cyclists here) exists on the roads of Edinburgh, albeit it's mostly good. I reckon it's just the greater density / numbers of population. The more people trying to get somewhere, the more stress and acting out. Sometimes one might think something similar applies on the internet.

My perfectly legal 200W motored 15mph restricted 2011 ebike has a throttle and does not require peddling. What hope of pc not the nicest listening to me in similar circumstances?

Agree there are some horrible people outside London too (and I used to live in Wallingford for a time, so I can speak to this) but generally it's a much calmer, less angry, less self-entitled place to live. My point was that it's really unhelpful to say "cyclists do this", "motorists do that" etc when they are just subsets of a wider population of the area. A motorist in London is far more likely to be aggressive then a motorist outside London, because Londoners generally are far more aggressive as a group. We need to take the "them and us" mentality out of society and I'm hopeful that politically we might see a little bit of cross-party agreement on things like social care etc, which might help to bring society back together a little and get a bit of consensus. We shall see. And I think once society starts becoming less angry, these kinds of incidents will occur less frequently.

I wish that were the case. In Trumpton perhaps, but not the real world.

Nope - we get our fair share of violent, aggressive, egocentric individuals driving around the towns and villages of Oxfordshire too. Of course, with the concentration of people in London, you're likely to be exposed to more of them in an average journey than elsewhere, but they exist everywhere.

Remember kids, every time you feed the troll, they go off for a crafty w@Nk. Don't feed the troll.

Regarding the road rage incident, should Road CC/London Cycling et al look into obtaining the video from the driver behind to help bring the criminal (yes, that is what they are based on the incident description) to justice? Whilst we live in the modern world with camera phones, some people still feel it is fine to behave like this presumably as they feel the chances of facing any repercussions are low.

Does ignoring all the safety issues around e-bikes and e-motorbikes count as breaking free and innovating?