Live blog: Cyclist ‘nearly knocked off’ in punishment pass by another cyclist; Tim Wellens takes a tumble during Final Breakaway Part 2; Teen given new bike by local bike shop after his was stolen; Mudguard tattoos? + more

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1. Proves the point that
   Proves the point that individuals are knobs sometimes not entire groups e.g. drivers, astronauts…
   Love the way you carried on chatting effortlessly while the other guy had his head down, I was wishing for a helicopter shot of you getting the hammer down and dropping him

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2. I get a lot of close passes

   I get a lot of close passes from cyclists when I’m doing sportives.  Especially from the groups of 3 or 4 riding together in matching kit.  

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   • dmack wrote:

     I get a lot of close passes from cyclists when I’m doing sportives.  Especially from the groups of 3 or 4 riding together in matching kit.  

     — dmack

     Unfortunately sportives are full of MGIF cyclists.
     Often recklessly overtaking on the wrong side, into oncoming traffic.
     Gives the rest of the bunch a bad name. You often see them overtaking the sportive clubs lead riders, only to be swallowed up 10 minutes later when they’re knackered from soloing it…
     The idiot in this clip thought he was cool with all that abrupt, swervy stuff as well. He wont be laughing when he hits the deck in the wet….or gets hit be something bigger, eg a vehicle. What a plum.

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3. My overwhelming feeling

   My overwhelming feeling watching that cyclist v cyclist video (apart from the observation that some people are full of self-righteous nastiness) is how glad I am to no longer have a pre-dawn commute. 

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4. That cyclist from Bell End

   That cyclist from Bell End likes riding in the door zone doesn’t he? Shame Mr Impey didn’t run him in to the back of the parked cars he was avoiding at the last minute.

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   • Legin wrote:

     That cyclist from Bell End likes riding in the door zone doesn’t he? Shame Mr Impey didn’t run him in to the back of the parked cars he was avoiding at the last minute.

     — Legin

     It would have been tempting. But… some people are full of self-righteous nastiness (almost all of us, occasionally) and they don’t cancel each other out. 

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     • Bmblbzzz wrote:

       That cyclist from Bell End likes riding in the door zone doesn’t he? Shame Mr Impey didn’t run him in to the back of the parked cars he was avoiding at the last minute.

       — Bmblbzzz

       It would have been tempting. But… some people are full of self-righteous nastiness (almost all of us, occasionally) and they don’t cancel each other out. 

       — Legin

       You are quite correct; I blame it on too much time at cycle speedway when I was a kid! If in doubt stick em in to the fence was the general rule 🙂

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       • Legin wrote:

         That cyclist from Bell End likes riding in the door zone doesn’t he? Shame Mr Impey didn’t run him in to the back of the parked cars he was avoiding at the last minute.

         — Legin

         It would have been tempting. But… some people are full of self-righteous nastiness (almost all of us, occasionally) and they don’t cancel each other out. 

         — Bmblbzzz

         You are quite correct; I blame it on too much time at cycle speedway when I was a kid! If in doubt stick em in to the fence was the general rule 🙂

         — Legin

         Ah, that’s racing, which is like love and war. 😉

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       • Legin wrote:

         That cyclist from Bell End likes riding in the door zone doesn’t he? Shame Mr Impey didn’t run him in to the back of the parked cars he was avoiding at the last minute.

         — Legin

         It would have been tempting. But… some people are full of self-righteous nastiness (almost all of us, occasionally) and they don’t cancel each other out. 

         — Bmblbzzz

         You are quite correct; I blame it on too much time at cycle speedway when I was a kid! If in doubt stick em in to the fence was the general rule 🙂

         — Legin

         As a BMXer I’m used to taking the line, although this can mean someone else has to either back off or go over the berm at times!

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         • OldRidgeback wrote:

           That cyclist from Bell End likes riding in the door zone doesn’t he? Shame Mr Impey didn’t run him in to the back of the parked cars he was avoiding at the last minute.

           — OldRidgeback

           It would have been tempting. But… some people are full of self-righteous nastiness (almost all of us, occasionally) and they don’t cancel each other out. 

           — Legin

           You are quite correct; I blame it on too much time at cycle speedway when I was a kid! If in doubt stick em in to the fence was the general rule 🙂

           — Bmblbzzz

           As a BMXer I’m used to taking the line, although this can mean someone else has to either back off or go over the berm at times!

           — Legin

           Seems fair to me; if they didn’t like the outcome they shouldn’t have been there in the first place 🙂

           Reminds me of when I rode across tram lines in the Berlin Velothon; downhill, it was wet and I had to turn immediately sharp left on crossing the lines; call me cautious but leaning across tram lines in the wet usually means one result. The two quicker than me bell ends who thought they could get round me on that turn ended up dodging pedestrians on the pavement….. feck em 🙂

5. He won’t be around long to

   He won’t be around long to offer his advice, absolute shite road craft in the door zone and brushing the boards of the building development.

    

   Also loved his attempts to escape, he was blowing out of his arse!

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6. On the traffic lights clip –

   On the traffic lights clip – how long do you wait before deciding that a set of lights aren’t working properly?

   Example: there’re some temporary lights on my way in (building site works), and I was waiting with about four other cyclists at the front.  The lights were red.  The lights stayed red.  Eventually, the motorists behind us started hooting horns – you know, I think they actually wanted us to RLJ!

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   • brooksby wrote:

     On the traffic lights clip – how long do you wait before deciding that a set of lights aren’t working properly?

     Example: there’re some temporary lights on my way in (building site works), and I was waiting with about four other cyclists at the front.  The lights were red.  The lights stayed red.  Eventually, the motorists behind us started hooting horns – you know, I think they actually wanted us to RLJ!

     — brooksby

     I reckon two full phases of other changes is enough, assuming only yours stays red.*

     On occasions I’ve been at junctions where lights have failed, its interesting how well everyone gets on and negotiates it fairly.

     *edit to add this is not official HC advice!

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     • PRSboy wrote:

       On the traffic lights clip – how long do you wait before deciding that a set of lights aren’t working properly?

       Example: there’re some temporary lights on my way in (building site works), and I was waiting with about four other cyclists at the front.  The lights were red.  The lights stayed red.  Eventually, the motorists behind us started hooting horns – you know, I think they actually wanted us to RLJ!

       — PRSboy

       I reckon two full phases of other changes is enough, assuming only yours stays red.*

       On occasions I’ve been at junctions where lights have failed, its interesting how well everyone gets on and negotiates it fairly.

       *edit to add this is not official HC advice!

       — brooksby

       The recent redevelopment of Highbury Corner (that there London) included “advanced traffic signal technology to allow us to better manage traffic depending on differing conditions at any given time”. I don’t know how ‘advanced’ or widespread this is, but if we do have systems which adapt in real time to improve traffic flow according to demand, then it’s not inconceivable that traffic at a minor arm of a junction might be forced to wait for two or more cycles before moving. At Highbury Corner at some times the segregated cycle traffic can wait up to about 2 mins for a green phase, with little or no conflicting traffic actually passing. It’s quite noticeable that over about a minute’s wait, people get impatient and proceed on red.

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7. That guy is wearing earphones
   That guy is wearing earphones too, surely it can’t just be me that thinks earphones in traffic is a stupid idea?

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8. I love the way he TELLS the

   I love the way he TELLS the other cyclist “don’t get involved”. That is bullying behavior just as was his close pass. Unfortunately this is not news – there are dicks that ride bikes, sadly. 

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9. The close-pass embankment

   The close-pass embankment video…
   I left London 15 yrs ago before the full velo revolution occurred. Sad to say it didn’t pan out how I had hoped, and it seems to just be a bunfight of shouty male middle class white pricks on carbon, all going too fast – not ‘cyclists’.

   It’s due in part to the overall national psyche – aggressive entitled preachy antagonist mamils (I do wear spandex also!) on a ‘stroppy little island’ to quote Albarn.

   Compare with NL, where the cycling is indeed nirvana, but not beacuse of the 1000’s of km’s of extensive infrastructure but for the people – chilled, happy, riding around in normal clothes on normal bikes, at 25kmph or so, and having deep respect for each other and for not pissing each other off.

   This video is a particularly bad example of current UK cycling. Imagine being a normal cyclist on a granny bike in regular clothes being caught up with those boneheads?
   Having said that – the stretch of road in the video would have no parking for cars and a segregated 2-way cycle lane in NL.

    

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   • joe9090 wrote:

     The close-pass embankment video…
     I left London 15 yrs ago before the full velo revolution occurred. Sad to say it didn’t pan out how I had hoped, and it seems to just be a bunfight of shouty male middle class white pricks on carbon, all going too fast – not ‘cyclists’.

     It’s due in part to the overall national psyche – aggressive entitled preachy antagonist mamils (I do wear spandex also!) on a ‘stroppy little island’ to quote Albarn.

     Compare with NL, where the cycling is indeed nirvana, but not beacuse of the 1000’s of km’s of extensive infrastructure but for the people – chilled, happy, riding around in normal clothes on normal bikes, at 25kmph or so, and having deep respect for each other and for not pissing each other off.

     This video is a particularly bad example of current UK cycling. Imagine being a normal cyclist on a granny bike in regular clothes being caught up with those boneheads?
     Having said that – the stretch of road in the video would have no parking for cars and a segregated 2-way cycle lane in NL.

      

     — joe9090

      

     I wonder if that’s true (about the national psyche).  It is tempting to agree, given all the non-cycling-related supporting evidence.  But I think you wildly overestimate this ‘full velo revolution’ – it’s just a couple of semi-decent bits of infrastructure, for the most part nothing has changed, cycle journyes are still a small share of total trips,  and cyclists are still a self-selected, unrepresentative minority group.  Conditions are_nothing_ like the Netherlands, so the demographic and culture is going to be nothing like it.

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   • joe9090 wrote:

      

     It’s due in part to the overall national psyche – aggressive entitled preachy antagonist mamils (I do wear spandex also!) on a ‘stroppy little island’ to quote Albarn.

     Compare with NL, where the cycling is indeed nirvana, but not beacuse of the 1000’s of km’s of extensive infrastructure but for the people – chilled, happy, riding around in normal clothes on normal bikes, at 25kmph or so, and having deep respect for each other and for not pissing each other off.

      

     — joe9090

      

     Disagree, that national psyche is antagonistic males, it’s more widely associated with drivers than lycra. This tool was talking position and highway code from a position of authority whilst demonstrating piss poor cycling skills. Also why he tried to leg it. If he’d been in his car he’d have been window down and squashing the cyclist into the kerb!

      

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   • joe9090 wrote:

     The close-pass embankment video…
     I left London 15 yrs ago before the full velo revolution occurred. Sad to say it didn’t pan out how I had hoped, and it seems to just be a bunfight of shouty male middle class white pricks on carbon, all going too fast – not ‘cyclists’.

     It’s due in part to the overall national psyche – aggressive entitled preachy antagonist mamils (I do wear spandex also!) on a ‘stroppy little island’ to quote Albarn.

     Compare with NL, where the cycling is indeed nirvana, but not beacuse of the 1000’s of km’s of extensive infrastructure but for the people – chilled, happy, riding around in normal clothes on normal bikes, at 25kmph or so, and having deep respect for each other and for not pissing each other off.

     This video is a particularly bad example of current UK cycling. Imagine being a normal cyclist on a granny bike in regular clothes being caught up with those boneheads?
     Having said that – the stretch of road in the video would have no parking for cars and a segregated 2-way cycle lane in NL.

     — joe9090

     Using NL to compare is wrong, (and 25km/h is massively out, average speeds are around 10-12mph IME) for one there’s a hell of a lot fewer younger males commute cycling in NL for one thing, particularly on the roads, a large % drive cars or get trains (driving has increased in the last  9 years in NL by the same amount that cycling km have in % terms and cycling modal share remains static).

     They also don’t have to cycle in large shitty cities like London that tend to put people on edge/grumpy, or in fact most other cities in the UK, their conurbations are much smaller generally compared to the UK, that happens when your population is 1/5 and is spread about.

     That said there are some riders in the modern era of cycling that seem to have the moton attitude as mentioned above, just MGIF all round, crappy spatial awareness and the language used by the guy in red is just oh so typical of the tin canners, there’s a ton of space and yet it’s just him that can’t manage AND there’s a fecking red light ahead to boot!

     It’s rare but it does happen and whilst it’s a bad example it’s not that common on the commute thankfully but far more common on sportives/charity rides!

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10. Cyclist in red, dickhead.
    Cyclist in red, dickhead. You dont cut up others, ride in the gutter and slip by parked cars. The camera rider, was much much safer, holding a safe line away from solid objects

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11.   Not surprised the obnoxious

      Not surprised the obnoxious cyclist mentioned he is ‘a driver’ – My suspicion is that is what determines his view of things, even when on two wheels.  A bit like the hit-and-run trolls who sometimes pop up on here.

    It’s a new form of ‘vehicular cycling’ – behave as if you were in a car, including abusing and endangering cyclists.

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12. We don’t do victim blaming
    We don’t do victim blaming round here, but Mr Red cyclist isn’t going to be a cyclist for long with those road skills.

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    • Mungecrundle wrote:

      We don’t do victim blaming round here, but Mr Red cyclist isn’t going to be a cyclist for long with those road skills.

      — Mungecrundle

      I dont understand why he’d even choose to ride like that, so close to clipping those wing mirrors on the cars and the building boards, and the last time I saw someone flick their rear wheel across another cyclist like that when they passed closely,in a sportive fwiw though not deliberately in that case,both riders ended up on the deck and in considerable pain

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13. It really doesn’t take a lot

    It really doesn’t take a lot to turn people against each other, does it?

     

    The cyclist in red is an utter dick. He doesn’t represent anyone but himself. It’s wrong and utter bullshit to say blah blah blah lycra/middle aged/bradley wiggins wannabee/etc/so on are all the same and deserved to be executed.

     

    I’ve had dickheads in chaingangs close pass me in spoirtive too – the vast majority don’t. I’ve also had the slower riders nearly take me out because they couldn’t be bothered looking over their shoulder before wildly swerving. The vast majority of bad riding I see is by utility cyclists in london…but that’s because there are more of them and I don’t judge all based of the actions of a minority.

     

    No one group has more or less arrogant, dangerous dickheads in them…it’s fairly evenly spread throughout society. Understand this and stop trying to blame ‘groups’!!!

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14. To the cyclist in red from

    To the cyclist in red from Bell End, you were clearly in the wrong, everyone is telling you were in the wrong. Accept it, learn from it and cycle in a manner that doesn’t put others at risk… otherwise, one day, you will probably find a bigger dickhead is going to do similar and teach you a painful lesson.

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15. How bad must Uber have been 2

    How bad must Uber have been 2 years ago?

    Perhaps if they had attempted to get it a bit more right to start off with there might be less problems now.

    But that is part of their disruptive business model.

    Oh, and for the black cab drivers, don’t forget John Warboys.

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16. Mudguard tattoos?  Is that a

    Mudguard tattoos?  Is that a real thing or is that a satirical photoshoppy thing??

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    • brooksby wrote:

      Mudguard tattoos?  Is that a real thing or is that a satirical photoshoppy thing??

      — brooksby

      Maybe they are still saving up for the rest of the bike.

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      Maybe it’s a hipster who’s just ridden an AUDAX and wants to commemorate it.

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17. Oh how I was looking forward

    Oh how I was looking forward to that complete arse being doored off by the parked cars he was inches away from.

    Have to say, I’d have found it difficult not to “accidentally” ride into his front wheel after what he did.

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    • srchar wrote:

      Oh how I was looking forward to that complete arse being doored off by the parked cars he was inches away from.

      Have to say, I’d have found it difficult not to “accidentally” ride into his front wheel after what he did.

      — srchar

      I was hoping he might ride into the back of a parked car when he was holding forth… that would have been comedy gold.

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18. Oh you SO want that red
    Oh you SO want that red jacketed rider to go straight into the back of a parked car don’t you?! Why is there never an opening door just when you need one?

    I’m not a cruel person really but come on, everyone on here is thinking the same!

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    • crazy-legs wrote:

      Oh you SO want that red jacketed rider to go straight into the back of a parked car don’t you?! Why is there never an opening door just when you need one?

      I’m not a cruel person really but come on, everyone on here is thinking the same!— crazy-legsNo, I wouldn’t wish harm on the cretin but I’d be relieved if he read all the comments and spent a little time reflecting on what a complete and utter knob he is (as well as how poor his knowledge of regarding road safety, positioning etc is).

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19. Come accross this on more

    Come accross this on more than one occasion, earlier this year one guy took offence to us as a group catching and (while giving him plenty of room) passing him. Shouting abuse at us and accusing us of trying to run him off the road, I’ve seen the look he had on his face a thousand times on motorists. The society we live in today where everybody has to be somebody has created this, as cyclists we have enough issues riding on todays roads without being assholes to one another.

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