Team Sky’s Geraint Thomas says a claim that as many as 90 per cent of riders in today’s peloton could be doping is “insulting” and says he would bet all the money he has that team mates Sir Bradley Wiggins and Chris Froome are riding clean.
The Welsh rider, currently 10th overall at Paris-Nice, was speaking to BBC Sport following the publication yesterday of the report by Cycling Independent Reform Commission (CIRC) into the culture of doping in cycling, including the years when use of substances such as EPO was commonplace.
The report suggested that use of performance enhancing drugs is still rife in the sport, although estimates of just how much vary widely, with the CIRC saying one “respected former professional” putting the figure at 90 per cent of riders, while another interviewed by the commission estimated 20 per cent.
Inevitably, it’s the higher figure that has received most attention, with many media outlets – including BBC Sport – highlighting that one, instead of the lower one in what is, after all, a very wide range.
In a video interview at the end of yesterday’s stage, Thomas told the BBC: “I think it’s a hell of a lot cleaner. I didn’t race back then, but all the stories you hear it’s certainly not like that now. Whole teams were doing it back then.
“I can only comment on me and this team and I know we do it [ride clean], and I certainly do it 100 per cent.
“It’s quite insulting when people say it’s still really filthy, because that’s saying that I’m doing something wrong, and I dedicate everything to this.
“You do everything you can, you sleep well, you try not to eat, try and get skinny. It’s hard bloody work and it’s insulting when they say something like that. It’s not very nice.”
The CIRC’s report was based partly on interviews with 174 individuals including past and present riders, the majority of whom have been sanctioned for or admitted doping, including Lance Armstrong, Tyler Hamilton and Alexander Vinokourov.
It found that in contrast to the past when many teams ran internal doping programmes, for today’s peloton, “a common response … when asked about teams, was that probably 3 or 4 were clean, 3 or 4 were doping, and the rest were a 'don’t know'."
Thomas said: “I can only comment on this team I don’t know what other teams do, if they were doing something I’m sure they wouldn’t tell me.
“But the thing is also, the older riders who have done it in the past, they’re the most cynical about it all because they don’t know anything else and they don’t think you can do it any other way.
“You certainly can,” he maintained. “Look at Brad, look at Froomey, I’d put all the money I have that they’re clean. Obviously I can’t say 100 per cent, but 99.9999, you know.”
Those interviewed by the CIRC were able to ask for their identity not to be disclosed, but the names of most were published in the report, with 2013 Tour de France champion Froome the only current rider listed.
That led the recently retired David Millar, who said the report did not reflect the reality of the peloton now, to ask yesterday, “Where are the others?”

























52 thoughts on “Geraint Thomas says claim 90 per cent of riders still doping is “insulting””
Probably was Vino who quoted
Probably was Vino who quoted the 90% figure…
Some knob on sky news
Some knob on sky news yesterday morning reported the 9/10 thing as if it were a fact, rather than a quote from one individual. .
Probably was Vino who quoted
Probably was Vino who quoted the 90% figure…
Was it the nob jockey
Was it the nob jockey Armstrong who quoted 90%? I imagine it was, another sad attempt to get back into cycling.
Leodis wrote:Was it the nob
Or destroy what he can no longer have.
Leodis wrote:Was it the nob
No. But don’t let that stop another sad attempt to blame him for cycling’s woes….makes things a lot easier when it can all be pinned on a devil child.
Totally agree with GT! that’s
Totally agree with GT! that’s why the brits are doing so well on the road and track the last few years.
Curly wrote:Totally agree
J – T – L
Think you’re missing the
Think you’re missing the point that J T L was caught as a result of moving into the big time. Once he was on the biological passport, he was drummed out of professional cycling immediately. Can’t ask for much more can you? One Brit since Millar, any others you’d like to add in?
Cresser wrote:Think you’re
You assume testing is ahead of the doping.
Cresser wrote: One Brit since
Sean Yates
Stephen Roche
Sean Kelly
David Millar
In my mind you’re not tainted
In my mind you’re not tainted by the 20-90% brush Geraint – keep smashing it and making us proud!
I would suggest that the 20%
I would suggest that the 20% figure is closer to the truth.
I would take issue with the assertion that there are no teams with organised doping programs, I think it’s pretty obvious that they do exist.
Even if Thomas and right and
Even if Thomas and right and team sky doesn’t dope, as far as he knows the rest of the peloton could still be on PEDs for all he knows. I will obviously never know, but just saying. Doping is probably as much of a issue across all professional sports.
How the hell does he know its
How the hell does he know its clean,like he admitted,his knowledge only extends to himself and his immediate colleagues
The fool is talking out of his backside in more ways than one,never liked him or his attitude
keep sucking off murdoch Thomas,thats what you do best
Rich71 wrote:How the hell
How can anyone not like Geraint Thomas? Comes over a nice cheeky chap sort of guy not caught up in the team politics, just a solid rider who gives his all which is why he was a very popular Commonwealth games winner.
How can anyone not like
[/quote]How can anyone not like Geraint Thomas?[/quote]
It is ever so easy, just look at him or listen to him and you will see how!
I always felt slightly odd because I thought that I was the only one who didnt like him.
Welsh boy wrote:How can
How can anyone not like Geraint Thomas?[/quote]
It is ever so easy, just look at him or listen to him and you will see how!
I always felt slightly odd because I thought that I was the only one who didnt like him.[/quote]
I hate him too – he’s such a div.
@rich71 y cos hes a pro and
@rich71 y cos hes a pro and you are just a soft southern twat
Coming from a twat from
Coming from a twat from conway,laughable
Thomas is a suspect unlikeable piece of shit and servicing Murdochs shrivelled paedo racket is all the piece of excrement is fit for
Rich71 wrote:Coming from a
conwy you thik sothern twat
Rich71 wrote:How the hell
Okay maybe he doesn’t know, but I am with him on the insulting factor in this. That report quotes a figure like 90% and a figure like 20% and the media are going to jump on the most controversial. It labels pretty much all of them as doping and that’s a massive claim to make without substantial evidence. This is all estimates, because let’s face it not one current rider or team is going to tell that report that they’re doping.
Rich71 wrote:How the hell
And you’ve got the cheek to criticise someone else’s attitude with a comment like that?! FFS.
In the report, the commission
In the report, the commission notes that despite statements from riders and teams today that they are clean, less than 5% of riders tick the box on the doping control forms giving permission for their samples to be used anonymously for research into developing new methods of drug detection.
I’d err towards the 90% end of the scale!
daddyELVIS wrote:In the
Fair play to Froome – he tweeted a pic of his box ticked. Said he has always ticked the box.
Thomas, there is a difference
Thomas, there is a difference between “I believe” and “I know”…
I trust that GT and hopefully
I trust that GT and hopefully all his Sky colleagues are clean. I appreciate his upset at the 90% claim. I don’t know whether he spoke with CIRC, but the pro-peleton in general appear to have missed an opportunity in that so few volunteered to do so. From what I’ve heard, only a handful of current riders did so, and only Froome had the courage to say so publicly. If a lot more clean riders had taken the trouble to engage, might their message have been better reflected in the report?
I might have read the report
I might have read the report incorrectly but I thought the 90% figure came from someone who was including every kind of drugs including those using TUE in that case they are probably correct. 90% taking illegal drugs is taking the piss. Is it acceptable that a rider takes pain killers etc because they’ve been riding their arse off or have mild asthma so get an exception?
I really (really, really)
I really (really, really) hope G is right.
However, while I find the ‘90%’ GUESS rather sensationalist – with the vast majority of the current pro pellaton not engaging with the CIRC at all – you can kind of see why they were looking at the more negative estimate.
Perhaps G should be addressing why the current riders failed to register their voice?
Wow – such hatred doesn’t reflect so well on your attitude either…
Quote:Is it acceptable that a
If it is allowed (and the TUEs are allowed) – then the discussion should be about how to better frame the regulations, not pointing at ‘cheating’ riders.
You Welsh fellas are a laugh
You Welsh fellas are a laugh a minute!
I don’t think the 90% is too
I don’t think the 90% is too far from the truth. I don’t really blame Thomas. If no one said anything it would be more damning in a way. It at least keeps those that prefer suspension of their disbelief to continue in the same vein.
But the report is quite damning. The problem is that foping is endemic in sport. Rugby and football are probably the worst offenders on the basis that they do not pull up anyone on doping yet the physiques and speed of the game have changed greatly.
Unfortunately we live in a world where the expectation is that we can constantly be moving forward, but genetically we are unlikely to keep creating individuals who are stronger and faster than our predecessors because we have not done selective breeding to create über sportsmen. It might be true if you had outliers who bred together, but that simply isn’t happening. Quite the opposite.
Colin Peyresourde wrote:But
I don’t know about football but in 20 years of playing rugby i came across one single incident of a guy taking illegal drugs (steroids), and he quit the sport to take up bodybuilding anyway. All we ever did was take a shit load of protein in various formats. I got tested and monitored for PEDs in rugby all the time despite the fact I was an amateur.
In 4 years of amateur cycling I’ve come across across it all the time. There is a guy in his mid thirties on my club run openly on EPO. I mean honestly, WTF is the point? I have never been tested once.
To say that rugby is ‘probably’ the worst offender is a stupid statement based on a stupid assumption.
is it ? Paul Kimmage is not
is it ? Paul Kimmage is not of the same view and thinks it is as dirty as cycling now.
No other athletes are tested as much as cyclists, look at Jamaica for instance and I can not believe in Bolt anymore …
Football – Dr Fuentes, need we say more plus we know players have been injured when failing drug tests – see Garry O’Connor
Are you counting Froome’s
Are you counting Froome’s TUEs? LOL…
This is not a hard problem to fix… first time rider is caught- lifetime ban. No more TUEs, if you got asthma you don’t get to be a pro… sorry but life sucks. The DS and doctor of the team of the rider also get lifetime bans, no matter if they were involved in or had knowledge of the doping.
Simple.. no more doping.
8% of the general population
8% of the general population of the Europe / US suffer from Asthma.
What percentage of pro riders are sufferers?
Greebo954 wrote:8% of the
You’ve not heard of Exercise-Induced Asthma? It’s rife within elite-level athletes, not just cyclists, and is why Chris Froome can take a pull from an inhaler before a big climb, prompting some to suggest substance abuse. I think the better question is whether the sport/fans/governing bodies are happy with that.
….. and the thing that
….. and the thing that induces that type of asthma is exercise, and in most cases it is brought on by high levels of exertion. It makes perfect sense that the higher the level of athletic endeavour the higher will be the prevalence of this form of asthma.
It is important to realise that the medication will not enable the lungs to take in any more air than they would when an asthma attack is not taking place. It doesn’t boost the baseline performance but does mitigate the effect of an attack if one occurs, not always to a 100% benefit. Were the inhaler to be used only after the asthma attack had started the rider’s race would already be over.
I had occasional trouble racing in the 80s with either exercise induced, or allergic asthma (never clearly diagnosed as to which or whether it may have been both). Any time an attack started the race was over and without an inhaler I could not have walked, yet alone ridden a bike.
Still not a Froome fan but I wouldn’t criticise him for using the inhaler.
8% of the general population
8% of the general population suffer from a genuine allergy induced constriction of the bronchial airways requiring the use of medication as the only viable and effective means of relieving symptoms. What percentage of pro riders suffer from this medical affliction as opposed to getting the wheezies occasionally caused by breathing through your arse for a few hours tearing your lungs out running marathons, yomping over mountains or riding a bike for 300 miles?
Can’t say I’d bet more than a
Can’t say I’d bet more than a tenner that any rider is clean. We’ve been told before how it’s now clean, and it’s not been the case. And these Astana and AG2R riders that are busted aren’t exactly the fastest guys … Even a tenner is probably a bit much to risk.
GT can only know what he himself does. And should leave it at that.
A report base on “the
A report base on “the majority of whom have been sanctioned for or admitted doping”. Is that meant to give creditbility?
Sorry to be a pedant, but
Sorry to be a pedant, but Roche and Kelly are Irish.
Roche and Kelly retired years
Roche and Kelly retired years ago anyway. How are they relevant?
One guy says 90% – we don’t know who he is or how he would know. It’s not like you’d happily be telling everyone what you are on.
Another guy says that’s rubbish and there’s no positive tests from his team so I will go with his views.
Of course other pro sports have massive drug problems but don’t want to scare sponsorship off so don’t really look for the drugs.
Whats the average wage in the premier league? That would buy a Lot of PED’s.
There’s a lot of hate on the forum here. I don’t know why you bother with cycling? Stick to your footy.
As Joe Queenan said last
As Joe Queenan said last week: the internet is ⅓ porn and ⅔ hate.
Nice to see so many footie fans taking up cycling but if you’ve nothing constructive to add then don’t post.
It’s boring and hypocritical. If GT turned up on your Sunday ride you’d have your phone out for a selfie straight away.
I feel sorry for the lads
I feel sorry for the lads thinking they need to keep taking the Tramadol and caffeine and then wondering why they keep falling off. May be legal but not the sort of high end sport you would want to get your own kids into.
Hang on – is this the same
Hang on – is this the same Geraint Thomas who registered a mighty high 6/10 on the UCI’s suspicion of doping index along with Egoi Martinez, Francesco Reda, Alessandro Petacchi and Mauro Santambrogio, all of whom have been sanctioned?
Maybe that’s a different Geraint.
The same report gave Lloyd
The same report gave Lloyd Mondory 0/10.
cyclingcymru wrote:The same
Maybe old Lloydy was indeed clean in 2010 when the list was done but got fed up getting hammered by the 90% that the headline says are on the gear so made the switch in 2014 onwards?
I was very surprised that there were Team Sky riders that ranked over 1/10. I mean didn’t the writers of the report know that the team is BRITISH and therefore not able to cheat??
When did all the cast offs
When did all the cast offs from Cycling News come onto this site?
6/10 on the UCI’s suspicion
[/quote] 6/10 on the UCI’s suspicion of doping index[quote]
The what?
What is that, and how does it work?
Is it similar to my ‘suspicion of bull s**t index’?
Must be Mad wrote:The
http://road.cc/content/news/35792-lequipe-publishes-ucis-secret-index-doping-all-198-riders-2010-tour-de-france
farrell wrote:Must be Mad
Ahh – the one that had Wiggins as suspicious as Vinokourov… and both of them more dodgy looking than Armstrong…