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Defecating on village greens, racing on the public highway and shouting abuse at anyone who gets in their way. Those are the latest accusations levelled at sportive riders in the New Forest at a meeting of the National Park Authority.

According to the Southern Daily Echo, National Park Authority member Maureen Holding, the Conservative member for Brockenhurst and Forest South East on New Forest District Council, said: “I was driving through Brockenhurst at 30mph and was overtaken by cyclists.

“Police say the events aren’t races but the riders are timed and given gold, silver or bronze medals according to how fast they went.

“Some of them go very fast and it’s only a matter of time before an old person is hit by a cycle.

“I’m not anti-cycling but these big, money-making events are getting out of control. The problem has not been managed, it’s simply being looked at in retrospect.”

Martin Barden of UK Cycling Events, which organises sportives in the New Forest on behalf of sponsor Wiggle, told road.cc: “It once again feels like a few anti-cyclists trying to stop cyclists enjoying their pastime. They believe the New Forest is an extension of their back gardens rather than a National Park which was set up for everyone to enjoy.”

UK Cycling Events recently announced that numbers in its sportives would be reduced by 20 percent, the event HQ would be moved outside the park, the number of morotcycle marshals would be increased and the events would be routed away from very narrow lanes and hotspots where conflict had previously occurred. 

Deputy chairman of the National Park Authority Oliver Crosthwaite-Eyre said cycling events were causing “enormous upset” in the Forest because of the speed and behaviour of riders and the frequency of events. Mr Crosthwaite-Eyre is President of the New Forest Association  and Vice Chairman of the New Forest Trust.

David Harrison, Liberal Democrat Hampshire County Councillor   for Totton South and Marchwood and National Park Authority member criticised the “anti-cycling” posture of some of his colleagues.

He said: “We should be actively promoting and supporting responsible cycling, a much enjoyed, largely peaceful activity that’s a positive for the Forest, not a negative.”

Peter Roberts, chairman of the New Forest Association, said that a complaint had been lodged with police that sportive events were causing a public nuisance.

He said: “The activity is clearly a race, either against the clock or fellow competitors – whatever name is given to it by the commercial organisers.

“A complaint has been submitted to the police regarding public nuisance.”

Chief Inspector Tony Rowlinson of New Forest police said the  complaint was being investigated by a senior officer.

He said: “The prosecuting authority is the Crown Prosecution Service and we will look to them for a steer.”

Martin Barden of UK Cycling Events said he had not yet been contacted regarding the investigation. 

He said: “I am not aware of the details of the investigation, but we provided clear guidance on how riders should ride considerately and provided four rest stops all with toilet facilities on the route.”

Our official grumpy Northerner, John has been riding bikes for over 30 years since discovering as an uncoordinated teen that a sport could be fun if it didn't require you to catch a ball or get in the way of a hulking prop forward.

Road touring was followed by mountain biking and a career racing in the mud that was as brief as it was unsuccessful.

Somewhere along the line came the discovery that he could string a few words together, followed by the even more remarkable discovery that people were mug enough to pay for this rather than expecting him to do an honest day's work. He's pretty certain he's worked for even more bike publications than Mat Brett.

The inevitable 30-something MAMIL transition saw him shift to skinny tyres and these days he lives in Cambridge where the lack of hills is more than made up for by the headwinds.

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gareth2510 [167 posts] 3 years ago
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fucking tory mp's

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allez neg [496 posts] 3 years ago
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I did the offroad London to Brighton this september and found that having a colossal dump on every village green on the route really helped my power to weight ratio on the last big hill near Brighton.

I punched the vicar and violated a few farm animals too, just to uphold our reputation.

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mrmo [2096 posts] 3 years ago
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driving at 30 and overtaken... hmmm... do i believe either of those statements....

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cidermart [501 posts] 3 years ago
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Ha ha ha bloody hippies pooing everywhere and using other means of transport than a Land Rover they ought to be shot and fed to pigs. I hope their flares get caught in their chain and they come off their horse killing bicycles.

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Cyclosis [73 posts] 3 years ago
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I have to say folks, I think this time they may have a point.

I mean come on, be honest, who hasn't shat on a village green during a sportive?

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james-o [239 posts] 3 years ago
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I'm sorry. I needed to go and was simply passing on my bicycle. I thought the green was in fact the quoted mp's garden, it had a summer house with a moat and duck house. Easy mistake!

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philtregear [121 posts] 3 years ago
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ive seen alot of horses shitting on village greens, and the roads of the new forest are covered in ponies feces. Ive just looked at the OS map of Brockenhurst. Considering the contours, I find it difficult to believe that cyclists would be going at over 30mph down the main road, and impossible to believe they would be achieving that speed through the town. Furthermore, i would hope that such a responsible pillar of the community as Ms Holding would be curbing her speed well below the limit in such a built up area.

How many people have been killed or seriously injured by bicycles in the new forest? how many have been killed or seriously injured by motorised vehicles? Do the maths, you ignorant, blinkered idiots.

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Stumps [3496 posts] 3 years ago
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Anyone comment on how many sportive's there actually are ?

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Rouboy [93 posts] 3 years ago
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It sounds like those who are complaining are so full of shit they have to explode somewhere and the village green is as close as they get to their home address!!!!
Why don't they just live and let live!!!!!!

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IanW1968 [341 posts] 3 years ago
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It does look like the wealthier residents getting a little indignant at the hoi poloi turning up on bikes and inconvieniecing them.

However I'm no fan of sportives and paying to ride a bit of road I can ride for free always seems like a rip off tbh, especially when hey make dubious charity connections.
I suppose they serve a purpose of getting new riders into the sport but also I can see how they could be annoying and as often money making ventures using public infrastructure some perhaps should be regulated.
As long as a distinction can be made between commercial events and club rides etc.

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giff77 [1277 posts] 3 years ago
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Total waste of police resources! Taking a dump on an open village green. Most of these 'guilty' cyclists will need to take off their jersey before having to drop their bib shorts this is difficult enough in a cubicle let alone in full view of all and sundry. As for the 30mph+ cyclists get their names and have them signed up to Sky or some other pro team.

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drfabulous0 [409 posts] 3 years ago
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Can we get this organized? Everyone we know with a bike down to the New Forest for a ride (rather than a sportive) one weekend and shit on every village green we see. We can take tents and free camp too so that we avoid contributing to the local economy of these ignorant fuckers and piss them off some more.

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chrisb87 [70 posts] 3 years ago
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I heard strava are working on a new sensor so you can record how many times you take a dump on a ride

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therevokid [1015 posts] 3 years ago
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30+ mph .... gods how i wish i could .... then I woke up !

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mlimburn [29 posts] 3 years ago
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I do hate those in cars, who go so slow they stop me riding at full pelt anywhere!  35

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BBB [461 posts] 3 years ago
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There are perhaps two places in Brockenhurst where it's possible to get up to 30mph or more on a bike but it's the cars that will be overtaking you...

The guys is obviously an idiot.

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Low Speed Wobble [156 posts] 3 years ago
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Some of you guys really should read what you've written here. How can you ever hope cyclists will be respected with comments like most of the above. You're a disgrace, and an embarrassment to the rest of us. When I ride I'd like to feel I'm part of a respected section of society, not a foul-mouthed ill-mannered fool such as many of you have revealed yourselves to be.

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sorebones [139 posts] 3 years ago
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Low Speed Wobble wrote:

Some of you guys really should read what you've written here. How can you ever hope cyclists will be respected with comments like most of the above. You're a disgrace, and an embarrassment to the rest of us. When I ride I'd like to feel I'm part of a respected section of society, not a foul-mouthed ill-mannered fool such as many of you have revealed yourselves to be.

Lighten up fella. Can't you see it's just light-hearted banter treating this ridiculous accusation with the disdain it deserves?

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ChrisW [7 posts] 3 years ago
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I was driving a car at 30 mph once and another car passed me! The next week, the same thing happened again. We definitely need to get rid of these things called cars. I've heard that there are people driving cars that REPEATEDLY break the speed limit. They are totally out of control.

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Guyz2010 [304 posts] 3 years ago
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Yep come on low speed wobble, it's all banter on a cycling website. However what I don't agree with is human poo being splattered all over my down tube soo sticky.
I was so tied up in the bib tights last week on Richmond Common my butt looked like a piece of toast with Nutella.

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koko56 [330 posts] 3 years ago
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hahahahaha!

Some proper funny comments!  21

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pdows47 [103 posts] 3 years ago
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Being overtaken at 30 isn't an issue, bikes aren't subject to speed limits.... As for taking a dumping on village greens, why not report it at the time?? And as for racing on the public roads, where else are races going to happen?? (crits and circuit races aside obviously)

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Guyz2010 [304 posts] 3 years ago
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I don't believe your correct in the assumption that cyclist do not have to comply with speed limits. I could be wrong though. I did set off speed camera once however I think it was the strobe rear light that did it as I was only doing about 34mph.

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pdows47 [103 posts] 3 years ago
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Strictly they don't, but other laws concern unsafe riding. Certain roads mean riders can 'break' the speed limit (say a 20 zone) but it's still safe and not endangering other road users. Overtaking may constitute recklessness, but is dubious at best as a charge without objective evidence

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Argos74 [450 posts] 3 years ago
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It happens to the best of us. You're grimacing like Sally Gunnell and trying to hang on til the finish. But there's no hope. Get off, prop the bike up, take some bog roll out of a jersey pocket, take off the jersey, unroll the bib tights down to the knees, and squat down to enter a world of transcendental bliss.

And then a moment of blind, panicking realization.

Not a portaloo. It's a village green. And there's a pond, with ducks. Very disapproving ducks. And there's a game of cricket, and they've all stopped for tiffin, and everyone's turned round to look at you and dropped their cups of tea to see a row of cyclists squatting with their bib tights around their knees.

It's okay. It's okay. We've all been there.

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Giles Pargiter [71 posts] 3 years ago
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I really do think the balance should be redressed here. Hold a couple of motorcycle raleighs and a couple of 4x4 treasure hunts maybe a vintage commercial vehicle parade round the lanes.....

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Forester [125 posts] 3 years ago
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The local paper's report on this story about the Wiggle Sportive had photos of riders on mountain bikes carrying rucksacks; the report of defaecation was based on someone finding faeces and toilet paper on the green at Wood Green.

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Flying Scot [1004 posts] 3 years ago
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Forester wrote:

The local paper's report on this story about the Wiggle Sportive had photos of riders on mountain bikes carrying rucksacks; the report of defaecation was based on someone finding faeces and toilet paper on the green at Wood Green.

I suppose on an mtb with a rucksack you might not complete the course within your Bowel regularity schedule.

So you can have roadies that are too fast, or gringos that are so slow they need to stop to park their breakfast........I have reported this thread to Ray Davies and the Village Green Preservation Society.

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SimonT1971 [35 posts] 3 years ago
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I don't think it's that simple. When i 'go', I 'go'. Granted the saddle is great for helping to 'hang onto the contents', but staccato defecating would never be my strong suit. Maybe we could do a count down the line at the start, 1,2,34,5,1,2,3.4,5..,

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mattsccm [359 posts] 3 years ago
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Usual one side bollocks here.
Of course too many events are negative for the locals. Are some of you too daft to see that? Of course and its proven that too high a proportion of riders see their time as the priority.
Usual political bias. And just why does the party politics have to be involved. Its the sodding lefty hippies that cause problems round here. Nowt to do with it.
Can you reasonably see the promoter backing the council? Of course not, it would affect his bank balance and lets not forget that why he and Wiggle do it.
Not for one moment suggesting that the resident's are 100% right just that both side needs to be taken into account and this sort of thread here seems to attract the unthinking and inconsiderate. And people wonder why I feel that cycling is going down hill.

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