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Everyone's bottom is different, here's how to choose the right one for you
  • Bum comfort is bike comfort: getting the right seat is the most important factor in being able to ride without pain.

  • Width, shape and materials all contribute to comfort — use a dealer’s demo program to try before you buy.

  • The more you pay, the less you get — high-end saddles use materials like carbon fibre and titanium to reduce weight

  • Women usually get on best with wider seats with pressure-reducing cutaways that look after the soft tissues of the genitals.

  • Traditional leather saddles are still popular, especially with long-distance riders and retro fans, and can be very comfortable.

Your saddle is arguably the most important component on your bike. Like that other key to comfort, your shorts, if it's doing its job properly you'll never notice it, but if it isn't — ouch! It’s your main contact point with the bicycle, and for some of us even subtle variations between two similar saddle designs can lead to one of them crossing fine line between comfortable perch and instrument of torture.

For a lot of people the saddle they get with their bike works just fine. Every component on a complete bike has to contribute to meeting a price point, but bike manufacturers aren't stupid; they may spec a generic product but it is one designed to work for as many people as possible. And for a lot of us the saddle our bike was born with works just fine.

Raleigh Mustang Elite - saddle.jpg

Raleigh Mustang Elite - saddle.jpg

However, if it doesn't or you want to drop some weight from your bike, or pep up its looks with a new saddle you'll need to find the right one. If it ain't broke though you may want to consider whether you really want to fix it before you start looking for another saddle. It's no surprise that pros, couriers, expedition riders — indeed anyone who spends a lot of time on a bike — takes the same favoured saddle from bike to bike. And you don't necessarily need the most high tech saddle to be comfortable or go fast — the Tour de France has been won on £25 saddles.

If you do need a different saddle though you are faced with a bewildering choice. Saddles come in a huge variety of shapes and sizes to suit every type of riding from racing, touring, commuting and leisure cycling.

While this huge choice means there’s a saddle to suit every bum, it does make knowing just where to start a touch tricky when you're faced with a choice of potentially hundreds of saddles. So you need to narrow down your choice to find the perfect saddle, and that's the aim of this guide.

Shape

The critical part of choosing the right saddle is finding a shape that fits your body and suits your riding style. Generally speaking, the more stretched out your riding position and the faster you ride, the narrower the saddle you need. And the more upright your position and the slower you ride, the wider the saddle needs to be. When you're stretched out, you place less weight on the saddle, but when you sit upright, the saddle has to support more of your weight. That's why race bikes have very thin saddles, and Boris bikes have extremely wide saddles.

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Eastway Zener - saddle and post.jpg

Manufacturers are getting better at helping you to choose the right saddle. Most have their own system of narrowing the choice, either by deciding what type of cyclist you are — usually by your range of flexibility and your position on the bike — or using a fit system that measures the distance between your sit bones, to pair you with the saddle that best matches your anatomy.

A good saddle should support the sit bones, not the entire bum. It’s where your sit bones contact the saddle that is key, a saddle needs to provide adequate support in these two areas. That’s why many saddles are offered in different widths, reflecting the difference in people's anatomy. Some manufacturers offer up to three widths to suit the range of variance. The nose of the saddle supports some of the cyclist’s weight too. Oh, one thing to remember here is that just because you have a bigger bottom it doesn't necessarily follow that you have wider sit bones.

selle italia slr t1 saddle

selle italia slr t1 saddle

Saddle shapes largely fall into several camps. Some are flat, some are rounded, some have scooped backs, some are narrow, others much wider. You can narrow down the choice by deciding what style of riding you do. A saddle that is too wide can lead to chafing, and one too narrow can feel like you’re sitting on a knife.

Generally, thinner saddles with minimal padding are more suited to racers with deep, stretched riding positions, down in the drops and crouched low over the handlebars. Such a position means you’re not sitting with all your weight on the saddle; you actually put very little load on the saddle when riding in such a position.

For touring cyclists saddles with a wider shape are favoured, as you don't adopt such an aggressive position when putting the miles in on tour as you do when racing. For long days in the saddle, and day after day, you need the highest level of comfort possible, and leather saddles are regularly the first choice. They're very durable too, and usually last years longer than saddles made from synthetic foam padding.

Fabric carbon rails

Fabric carbon rails

For more leisurely riding where an upright position is adopted, more of your weight will be concentrated through the saddle. A wider saddle with more support and extra padding will be the preferred choice here.

You can get saddles aimed at road racing, triathlon, touring, commuting, mountain biking, and they all take different approaches with shapes and padding. This does help narrow down the choice. There are some saddles that are favoured by different groups of cyclists, and there are some that seem to straddle the different camps. The Charge Spoon is one such saddle that leaps to mind as being particularly well suited to British bums, whether road racing, touring or mountain biking.

Material, rails and shell

The type of materials used to construct a saddle range from plastic bases and steel rails on entry-level models to entire moulded carbon fibre bases and rails on the very expensive models. The more you spend, the lighter the materials used, so if weight is a key priority for you, you need to start saving up. Lightweight saddles are those in the 200g region.

If comfort is important to you, then steer clear of carbon rails as hollow titanium rails can often provide additional flex to absorb some of the vibrations that pass through the frame into the seatpost. We’re even seeing many professional racers choose these saddles over the very top-end models.

The base of the saddle is an area where a manufacturer can design in extra flex, to allow the saddle to subtly deform upon impacts. Some have holes or different materials in key places that allow the foam to expand through the hole, or the base to flex in a controlled manner.

The saddle cover can be made from synthetic leather like Lorica or real leather, and there’s many other materials manufacturers might use. Some add perforations and Kevlar edges to prevent wear and tear taking its toll. Time trial saddles often have a grippy material along the nose to stop the cyclist slipping back and forth, and we’re starting to see such materials make a presence on road saddles, as with Prologo’s CPC saddle.

Leather saddles have a single piece of leather that is tensioned on a metal frame, so it’s essentially suspended like a hammock, and provides plenty of give that can prove very comfortable on longer rides. They need more looking after than regular saddles, and sometimes need breaking in. The leather needs proofing, and you need to be careful in wet weather, as they don’t much like the rain; that's why you most often find them on mudguard-equipped touring bicycles. Brooks is the name most associated with leather saddles but they aren't the only maker out there. Spa Cycles do a well regarded, and well priced, range of leather saddles that possibly require more breaking in than a Brooks, but not that much more.

A fascinating recent development is the Brooks Cambium range of saddles, which use similar construction techniques to Brooks' leather saddles, but with modern materials. Instead of a sheet of leather across the ends of the rails, Brooks has come up with a combination of vulcanised natural rubber, cotton canvas and structural textile for the top.

This top is inherently flexible, like a worn leather Brooks or a new one with the tension backed off slightly, and it moves slightly as you pedal. It's a design we like a lot.

Padding and cutouts

Most saddles use some form of foam padding, but the amount of padding used and the density can vary a lot. Racier saddles often have less padding, while saddles for commuting and leisure cyclists will have deeper and softer padding, to cushion the ride. However if you ride fast, or for long distances too much padding might not be your friend as it can move, pinch or chafe rather than supporting your sit bones.

It’s easy to think a saddle with very firm padding is going to be uncomfortable, but once you get used to them they can be a lot more comfortable than softly cushioned saddles for riding of the fast variety. Because you lean forward, you perch on the saddle rather than sit on it, so you can get away with less padding. Strategically placed gel inserts are another frequent solution to providing comfort.

Prologo Kappa DEA2 Saddle Detail

Prologo Kappa DEA2 Saddle Detail

In 1997 a study by Dr. Irwin Goldstein put the cat among the pigeons, claiming reduced blood flow cause by saddle pressure could lead to erectile disfunction in men and cause permanent reproductive failure. A load of nonsense it may be, but the story produced a lot of concern, and the saddle with the hole in the middle suddenly became very popular. Step forward Specialized in 1998 who produced their first Body Geometry saddle, with a cutaway channel claimed to restore the blood flow and so prevent numbness.

In fact the idea is not new. The first saddle with a hole was actually born as early as 1903, and Georgena Terry produced the first modern example for women in 1992. It also has to be said that the claims for saddles with channels in them are hedged with all sorts of caveats.

For instance there is no agreement that decreased blood flow, or even numbness will cause erectile dysfunction in men or genital numbness in women. And even proponents of channels and holes agree that there is another simple cure: stand up and any decreased blood flow to your bits will immediately resolve itself.

Even if decreased blood flow does cause a problem depending how you are plumbed down there the amount of difference between a normal saddle and one with a channel may be minimal to non-existent. In the interests of science our editor Tony once had his organ wired up to measure the difference in blood flow between his usual saddle and one with a channel in it. For him at least it turned out there was no difference.

So cutaways and channels are not for everyone. You only need look at the bikes of the professionals to see that many quite happily cycle many thousands of kilometres a year with little side effect, so there’s a lot more to comfort than just adding the channel. They do work for some people though, indeed some swear by them. It’s a case of trying different saddles and seeing what works for you.

ISM PN 10.jpg

ISM PN 10.jpg

If you have particular urological or prostate problems it may well be worth looking at a saddle with a hole or channel or cutaway, and there are plenty to choose from. Or you might even take things a stage further and looking at something with a drop nose, like a Selle SMP or even a noseless saddle like the ISM Adamo Racing saddle pictured above,

Saddle padding doesn't last forever, particularly on performance saddles. After a while the padding isn't really doing any padding anymore because it has become permanently squashed by the millions of times your bottom has compressed it. The more performance-oriented a saddle and the less actual padding it has, the more time limited its lifespan. Many top end performance saddles have an expected lifespan of a couple of seasons if used the way they are intended.

Saddles for women

Most manufacturers now have a large choice of women-specific saddles to recognise the differences in anatomy. Many women do get on just fine with men's saddles, just as many women happily ride men's bikes, but generally women have wider sit bones so there’s a choice of suitable wider saddles to suit. That said, looking at some saddle ranges, there’s still a much smaller choice for women than men, something which needs addressing.

Georgena Terry developed a reputation for comfortable saddles aimed specifically at women, in doing so pioneering the first women’s specific designed products. She produced a saddle for women in 1992 with a cutaway section, a design she later expanded to men’s saddles.

Try before you buy

Ideally, you want to try a saddle on your bike before parting with your money, and a few saddle manufacturers recognise the problem of spending a lot of cash on an untested saddle. Some then offer try before you buy schemes, where you can run a saddle for a desired amount of time to decide if it’s right for you. That can save you collecting a large pile of saddles in your shed as you enter the quest for the ultimate saddle.

Saddle height and bike fit

As important as picking the right saddle, ensuring you have the saddle at the correct height and distance from the handlebars is also very important. Sometimes, you can have the right saddle, but you’re not sitting on it correctly, which can be a case of it being too far forward or backwards. If you find yourself wriggling about on your saddle a lot when riding, it could be a sign it’s not correctly positioned.

We’d recommend getting a professional bike fit, and there are many available these days. They’ll assess your level of flexibility, physical limitations and your cycling goals, and ensure you’re correctly fitted on the bike. The bike needs to fit you, not the body fitting the bike.

19 great saddle choices

Fabric Scoop Gel — £49.99

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Fabric Scoop Gel Saddle.jpg

Charge describes the Fabric Scoop Gel as a 'comfort' design, and it ticks all the boxes: it's comfortable, well made, attractive and a fair price.

It's aimed at leisure, commuter and off-road riders who adopt an upright position, so has large gel inserts covering the three pressure points – the nose and wings – plus a V-shaped central channel to alleviate pressure on your bits. It's a unisex design, as are all Fabric saddles, but is particularly suited to women with wider sit bones. 

Bontrager Montrose Pro — £149.99

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Bontrager Montrose Pro Saddle.jpg

The Bontrager Montrose Pro saddle looks great and is very well put together. It sits on the right side of the weight scale and it was very comfortable for me in its intended race-position use. Available in black or white, featuring a carbon reinforced shell and oversized full carbon 7x9mm rails it's offered in 128mm, 138mm and 148mm widths, all of which are 270mm long. Weights range from 160g to 172g.

Read our review of the Bontrager Montrose Pro
Find a Bontrager dealer 

Fabric Line Titanium — £74.99

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Fabric Line Elite Saddle.jpg

The titanium-railed version of the Fabric Line (see below) doesn't save a whole lot of weight over the chromoly-railed model (which doesn't really matter as that's pretty svelte anyway), but you do get a little more in the way of comfort, because the titanium tubes tend to flex a bit. You can notice it when riding the two side by side.

Read our review of the Fabric Line Titanium

Fizik Antares R5 Kium — £114.99

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Fizik Antares R5 Kium Road Saddle.jpg

Fizik's Antares R5 Kium Road Saddle is surprisingly comfortable for speed-orientated road riding, and the build quality is top-notch.

The Antares R5 sits in Fizik's Chameleon family of contact points. This is the mid-point of a three-category range created according to different levels of rider flexibility, which also includes handlebars (the other two are Snake/flexible and Bull/rigid). It's 275mm long and 142mm wide and Fizik describes its shape as 'wide and slightly curved in profile, which is ideal for riders with medium spine flexibility'.

Read our review of the Fizik's Antares R5 Kium
Find a fizik dealer

Fabric ALM Ultimate — £225

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Fabric Alm Ultimate.jpg

Fabric's ALM Ultimate saddle is an extremely lightweight saddle that's beautifully made. It's best suited to those who like a firm feel and don't mind paying a premium price.

When your bum forst encounters the ALM it's a little surprising just how firm it feels. The 'ultra-light PU foam' padding is quite thin and there's not masses of give in the 'aerospace UD carbon fibre' base or the carbon-fibre rails. Don't get us wrong, it's not solid, but it isn't soft either.

Read our review of the Fabric ALM Ultimate
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Brooks Cambium C13 — £149.99

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Brooks Cambium C13 carbon saddle.jpg

The Brooks Cambium C13 is the latest model in the English brand's excursion into non-traditional materials for its saddles. There's no leather or chromed steel at all here, replaced by the vulcanised natural rubber and cotton top surface previously seen in the original Cambium models, and – what's this? – a full carbon fibre structure underneath. It's very well made (in Italy, not Birmingham, unlike the majority of the range) and there's no breaking-in period, unlike the leather models.

Read our review of the Brooks Cambium C13

Morgaw Trian — £89.95

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Morgaw Trian Saddle.jpg

A supremely comfortable saddle with innovative shock absorption built in, the Morgaw Trian is designed for comfort, and our tester thought it perhaps the most comfortable saddle he had ever used. It seems that the shock absorbers are what have really made it comfortable. Morgaw is a saddle company from Slovakia that began as a crowd funding campaign on Indiegogo. The idea behind it came from Martin Moravcik and Slawek Gawlik, two ex-pro mountain bikers who wanted to make a new kind of saddle.

Rather than simply having the rails mounted onto the base of the saddle, they mount through shock absorbers in order to lessen the impact of bumps in the road. It is meant to protect your spine as this is naturally where the shocks radiate.

Read our review of the Morgaw Trian

Cosine Ti Sprint — £11.89

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Cosine Ti Sprint Road Saddle.jpg

Wiggle brand Cosine's range of saddles features four men's and two women's models for a variety of disciplines. This, the Ti Sprint Road Saddle, could be classed as the most extreme, with racing in mind. If that's what you're looking for, it's very good; just bear in mind it's not for long endurance rides.

The design of the saddle is optimised specifically for those riding in a tucked aerodynamic position. The 140mm-wide flat body, with a long relief channel, helps to distribute your weight evenly on your sit bones rather than on any soft tissue. The narrow nose will stop your inner thighs from rubbing against the saddle during a pedal stroke; that seemed to work, although it's safe to say my climbing-sized thighs have never had much of a problem with that anyway.

Read our review of the Cosine Ti Sprint

Fabric Line Elite — £44.99

Fabric Line saddle - 4

Fabric Line saddle - 4

Proof that you don't have to spend a fortune to get a comfortable saddle, for just £40 this is a super-comfortable performance saddle with pressure-relieving channel.

It's based on Charge's popular Scoop but the foam padding is partitioned down the middle. The unique construction method means Fabric has been able to retain a full base, so you're protected from road spray (many saddles have a hole) and no reinforcement is needed of the foam padding, which means it can be lighter.

Read our review of the Fabric Line Elite

Spa Cycles Aire — £52

Spa Cycles Aire Leather Saddle

Spa Cycles Aire Leather Saddle

If the three-figure price of a Brooks Swift is a bit rich for your blood, this very similar own-brand seat from Harrogate touring specialist Spa Cycles is a very acceptable substitute. It's made from thick Australian leather with shiny chromed steel rails; very handsome.

Our tester found it comfortable even for 15-hour rides. For hard-core randonneurs on a budget or leather saddle virgins who want to try one without breaking the bank the Aire is just about perfect.

Read our review of the Spa Cycles Aire

Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow — £67.62

Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow saddle

Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow saddle

The Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow saddle is one of the most widely rider-recommended women's saddles and it's easy to see why. It's comfortable, flexible, light and it even looks good too.

This is a superior quality design offering superb comfort for all styles of bike and ride. An excellent women's saddle.

Read our review of the Selle Italia Diva Gel Flow
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Rido R-Lt — £68.50

Rido R-Lt saddle

Rido R-Lt saddle

The Rido R-Lt saddle is a reasonably lightweight performance choice that's built specifically to avoid numbness. This is a brilliant saddle. It does what Rido claim with regards to comfort plus the shape and fit are spot on. It is low profile enough to be taken seriously as a race saddle and at only 230g it isn't going to add any unnecessary weight to your race bike.

Read our review of the Rido R-Lt
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Genetic Bikes Monocoque Carbon — £71.45

 

The Monocoque Carbon saddle from Genetic is just that: a saddle made mainly from carbon. It's light and comfortable, and not cheap, but it compares well against similar saddles from other manufacturers.

For many road cyclists, especially those doing longer distances, it's not about just weight, nor just price. It's about the best combination of weight, price and (most important) comfort. And on that basis the Genetic Monocoque Carbon saddle is well worth considering.

Read our review of the Genetic Bikes Monocoque Carbon
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Specialized Ruby Expert women's — £99.99

Specialized's Body Geometry Ruby Expert saddle is one of those rare beasts, a lightweight women's specific performance saddle that's available in a choice of widths including a properly narrow 130mm to suit your style of riding and just as importantly your sit bones too.

The cushioning is placed exactly where you need it to support your sit bones, effectively alleviating any discomfort or feeling of pressure. It's a super light, firm but comfortably supportive road saddle with width fittings to suit most riders.

Read our review of the Specialized Ruby Expert
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Bontrager Serano RL saddle — £60

Bontrager's Serano saddle draws on a shape that has been around for many years. A long flat and rounded middle section features with a raised tail and slightly dropped nose, with deep sides. It's the sort of shape that many cyclists will find comfortable.

Read our review of the Bontrager Serano RL saddle
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Brooks Cambium C17 — £92.99-£94.49

Brooks Cambium C17 saddle

Brooks Cambium C17 saddle

What do you get if you combine the classic Brooks 'hammock' saddle design with thoroughly modern materials? You get the supremely comfortable Cambium C17. It's not the lightest saddle around, but f you value comfort over weight, then the Brooks Cambium C17 should be on your list of saddles you must try, and soon.

Read our review of the Brooks Cambium C17
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Fabric Scoop Pro Flat — £129.99

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Fabric Scoop Flat Pro saddle.jpg

Scoop saddles are is available in three shapes: flat, shallow and radius. Though there isn't much padding in the Fabric Scoop Pro Flat, there is loads of flex in the one-piece base and it's this flex that really provides the core of the comfort. The carbon rails do provide a surprising amount of flex, but their shape and size isn't compatible with a lot of seat post clamps, so the best advice is to check your seat post is compatible; you might need to change clamp or post.

The real beauty of the Fabric Scoop is the construction. The waterproof microfibre cover isn't stitched or stapled into place, it's moulded to a one-piece nylon base. It's really very impressive and if you get the chance to fondle one in your bike shop you really should, it's a marvellous bit of design.

Read our review of the Fabric Scoop Flat Pro Saddle
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Rivet Independence chromoly — £149.99

Rivet Independence cromoly saddle

Rivet Independence cromoly saddle

On the surface the Rivet Independence is a traditional leather saddle, but it has a modern twist in the form of a composite resin frame. anyone who fancies trying a leather saddle would do well to try the Independence.

The Independence shares the quality construction and thick leather of Rivet's Pearl saddle, along with the all-important tension plate underneath, which prevent the saddle from splaying. Where it differs significantly from the other saddles in the range is the composite resin frame (complete with bag loops). This sturdy plastic helps to keep the weight down.

After a short acclimatisation period our tester's backside and the saddle were in complete harmony. Anyone who fancies trying a leather saddle would do well to try the Independence.

Read our review of the Rivet Independence chomoly saddle
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Selle San Marco Mantra Superleggera Saddle — £299.99

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San Marco Mantra Superleggera Saddle.jpg

The Selle San Marco Mantra Superleggera Saddle is an incredibly light and very stiff design that allows for a really strong transfer of power.

Weight is the biggest selling point of this saddle, and Selle San Marco has really pulled out all the stops in cutting down excess, it comes in at just 112.1g. 

Read our review of the Selle San Mantra Superleggera saddle
Find a Selle San Marco dealer

For oodles of saddle reviews see the road.cc saddle review archive.

David has worked on the road.cc tech team since July 2012. Previously he was editor of Bikemagic.com and before that staff writer at RCUK. He's a seasoned cyclist of all disciplines, from road to mountain biking, touring to cyclo-cross, he only wishes he had time to ride them all. He's mildly competitive, though he'll never admit it, and is a frequent road racer but is too lazy to do really well. He currently resides in the Cotswolds.

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timtak [55 posts] 1 month ago
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It is really weird to me how the pros do not use saddles with cut-outs. For me the difference was night and day. Without a cut out I would be putting my weight on my gonads when in the drops especially so cutouts and (not boasting, even the smallest require) big ones were a prerequisite. I find that once you have a cut out then padding is not necessary and now ride carbon cutouts. I wonder where low down riding pros such as "baller," Greg Lemonde
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beezus fufoon [673 posts] 1 month ago
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timtak wrote:

It is really weird to me how the pros do not use saddles with cut-outs. For me the difference was night and day. Without a cut out I would be putting my weight on my gonads when in the drops especially so cutouts and (not boasting, even the smallest require) big ones were a prerequisite. I find that once you have a cut out then padding is not necessary and now ride carbon cutouts. I wonder where low down riding pros such as "baller," Greg Lemonde put them.

sounds like the angle of your hips might be tilted a little too far forward

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timtak [55 posts] 1 month ago
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beezus fufoon wrote:

sounds like the angle of your hips might be tilted a little too far forward

I find it comfortable to do so, on a saddle with a cutout.

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beezus fufoon [673 posts] 1 month ago
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timtak wrote:
beezus fufoon wrote:

sounds like the angle of your hips might be tilted a little too far forward

I find it comfortable to do so, on a saddle with a cutout.

I mean compared to Lemond in that picture at least...

half of me says - sure, if that works for you - but the other half suspects you might be compensating other weaknesses - such as a tight psoas muscle - not wanting to be alarmist, but it's something to be aware of at least

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muppetteer [91 posts] 1 month ago
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No SMP? By far the most comfortable saddle I've ever used. MASSIVE cut out, drop nose, and very long rails. What's not to like? Its not the prettiest, but they do work. 

 

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fustuarium [209 posts] 1 week ago
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timtak wrote:

It is really weird to me how the pros do not use saddles with cut-outs. For me the difference was night and day.

It's beyond me how people do use them. Had two saddles on new bikes, tried to put up with it as I'm not a micro adjuster but in the end changed them to normal charge/fabric that were instantly perfect. For me the cut out just seemed to put more pressure elsewhere. Horse for courses.

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Huw Watkins [137 posts] 1 week ago
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muppetteer wrote:

No SMP? By far the most comfortable saddle I've ever used. MASSIVE cut out, drop nose, and very long rails. What's not to like? Its not the prettiest, but they do work. 

 

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I was recommended an SMP a while ago.  Really, really tried to get on with it but never could.  Then I had the good fortune of snapping a saddle rail so switched to an Antares instead.  Have never ridden anything more comfortable

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Butty [188 posts] 1 week ago
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5 of the best 19 saddles are Fabric, yet many many good makes don't get a mention?

Are they really that good or is this an infommercial for Fabric?

 

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Vejnemojnen [239 posts] 1 week ago
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wiggle cosine.. 

 

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/cosine/

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nbrus [336 posts] 1 week ago
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Butty wrote:

5 of the best 19 saddles are Fabric, yet many many good makes don't get a mention?

Are they really that good or is this an infommercial for Fabric?

Its 19 saddles that have previously been reviewed by road.cc ... so many sddles on the market and the best one for you is out there ... and nearly impossible to find.

If you ride several different types of bicycle you may notice that a saddle that feels uncomfortable on one bike may turn out to be the most comfortable saddle you have ever ridden when put on another bike. This means should should not automatically choose the same saddle for every bike you own as it may not work as well depending on the geometry of your bicycle. This is something you rarely see mentioned in reviews. I was about to bin a saddle before trying it on a different bike and was really surprised by the difference this made.

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hsiaolc [343 posts] 1 week ago
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Butty wrote:

5 of the best 19 saddles are Fabric, yet many many good makes don't get a mention?

Are they really that good or is this an infommercial for Fabric?

 

 

Well they have to make money somewhere.   I take everything they review with a grain of salt now.

 

They have praised Fabric many times and I bought many of them.  None I use now because I don't find them comfortable at all.  Actually one I had to return asap because it hurt so much I had to stop half way into a ride. 

 

Same as their tooting for Mason cycles.  For one man band he can get two 5 star rating for his Alumninum bikes.  Begs to wonder. 

Mason or Trek Domane SLR hmmm hard to choose? Especially they all share the same stars. 

 

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srchar [451 posts] 1 week ago
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Huw Watkins wrote:

switched to an Antares instead.  Have never ridden anything more comfortable

Snap. I only tried an Antares because it was fitted to a used bike I bought; I'd never have tried it based on looks alone - it looks like the last place you'd want to perch.

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Without a cut out I would be putting my weight on my gonads when in the drops especially so cutouts and (not boasting, even the smallest require) big ones were a prerequisite.

If you are actually putting weight on your balls, your position is wrong. Your weight should be on your sit bones, even in the drops.

How does a cutout help? Do you dangle your balls through/into the hole?

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SingleSpeed [309 posts] 1 week ago
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For years all of my bikes had Flite Ti's then all of the Charge Spoon Ti, and then Fabric's the only one that differs now is my summer road bike with the Specilized Power Expert...it's the best saddle I've ever used on a road bike.

Re gonads above what has been said the channel is designed to alleviate pressure on pereneal ridge bit under your balls, it allows for blood flow in the region to continue unabated.

I've never had a gonad problem with full saddles on the drops other than my knees hitting my chest.

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ktache [521 posts] 1 week ago
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Classic Flite Ti for the past 25 years, my arse must have been moulded into the shape by now.  Forced to buy a Gel one in the mid 2000s, glad they are making the early 90s one again.

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700c [1106 posts] 1 week ago
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Specialized have been good for me. I get on with the cut outs. Romin and more recently the Power model - allows me to get very low without the perineum pressure, but more versatile than a stubby SMP/ tri saddle thing

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Danger Dicko [281 posts] 1 week ago
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timtak wrote:

It is really weird to me how the pros do not use saddles with cut-outs. For me the difference was night and day. Without a cut out I would be putting my weight on my gonads when in the drops especially so cutouts and (not boasting, even the smallest require) big ones were a prerequisite. I find that once you have a cut out then padding is not necessary and now ride carbon cutouts. I wonder where low down riding pros such as "baller," Greg Lemonde
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Are you showing off about having meaty clackers?

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sammutd88 [39 posts] 1 week ago
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fustuarium wrote:
timtak wrote:

It is really weird to me how the pros do not use saddles with cut-outs. For me the difference was night and day.

It's beyond me how people do use them. Had two saddles on new bikes, tried to put up with it as I'm not a micro adjuster but in the end changed them to normal charge/fabric that were instantly perfect. For me the cut out just seemed to put more pressure elsewhere. Horse for courses.

 

I agree. When I was new to road riding, I read all the reviews and marketing and assumed that being a male, I'd need a cutout. I tried so many saddles, even the odd short ones like the Specialized power and the curvy Fizik Aliante and Fabric scoop/line. In the end, the mighty Fizik antares r1 is the best for me. Fairly flat and no cut out and room to move. Done

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kibber [10 posts] 1 week ago
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> When you're stretched out, you place less weight on the saddle, but when you sit upright, the saddle has to support more of your weight. That's why race bikes have very thin saddles, and Boris bikes have extremely wide saddles

No, that's not why. Race bikes have thin saddles because they're ridden with a lot of forward pelvic tilt, and when tilted forward, the shape of the contact patch between the pelvis and the saddle becomes very narrow. Upright bikes are the other way round, and everything in between is, well, in between.

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abbster [1 post] 1 week ago
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700c wrote:

Specialized have been good for me. I get on with the cut outs. Romin and more recently the Power model - allows me to get very low without the perineum pressure, but more versatile than a stubby SMP/ tri saddle thing

+1 for specialized power. Used by many ultra distance cyclists. Have one on all my bikes.. no pain, chafing or bruising even after a 12 hour day in the saddle. Doing the TCR on it.

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Sadoldsamurai [41 posts] 1 week ago
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No mention of the Proust, with it's very short nose and swivel action.

My wife absolutely swears by hers....