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Fair fuel UK are at it again

Hi I am new here and I have the dubious honnour of being on fair fuel UK's mailing list and yesterday they sent me an email with a link to a survey that they had setup about cyclists, cycle lanes, LTNs and vehicle taxation and road charging. Here is the link to the survey for anybody interested in telling fair fuel what they think. https://s.surveyplanet.com/NzD3nRZR3

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Hirsute | 4 years ago
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I wonder where they will go after the ruling that

'On 16 December, Southwark Coroner's Court in London found that air pollution "made a material contribution" to the death of nine-year-old Ella Adoo-Kissi-Debrah.'

as they have always said that there are no deaths linked to air pollution. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55352247

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David9694 | 4 years ago
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would it be an overstatement to say that we and CUK have sent him packing on this nonsense, the "survey" having "closed" in what, the space of a week?

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to David9694 | 4 years ago
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Thought it was pointed out that they closed it so the Daily Heil,/ Heil on Sunday could use it for their (s)hit piece on cycling lanes on Sunday. 

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David9694 replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 4 years ago
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ah, just seen the news that the Mail wrote something pretty predictable on the back of it.

Just been debating in polite Linkedin terms one of the daily CUK posts - this guy recongnises that the rot (E.g. people not living near work/school) has been setting in for 50 years, he still expects instant results usage wise when a new cycle lane goes in. Oh, and somehow cycle lanes CAUSE pollution. 

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Hirsute | 4 years ago
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Howard Cox
@HowardCCox
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10 Dec
Dear
@WeAreCyclingUK
in
@roadcc
U accuse "..
@FairFuelUK
of running a ‘how much do you hate cycling’ survey" - Where is you evidence of your accusation. 2000+ cyclists have taken part & what they say will be published as analysed. In all questions you can answer YES, NO, DONT KNOW

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Hirsute replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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He's like a small version of Donald trump.
'Do you think motorists pay too much road tax'
'Do you agree cyclists pay no road tax'
'Dont you think they should?'

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Captain Badger replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

He's like a small version of Donald trump. ...

Or is he just far away?....

Aah, forget it Dougal!

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CTD81 | 4 years ago
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Howard has admitted to removing some of the responses

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David9694 | 4 years ago
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It started off reasonably enough then ...

FROM RECENT MEDIA REPORTS, UNELECTED SPECIAL ADVISORS IN NO 10 ARE INFLUENCING THE ROLL OUT OF CYCLE LANES. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS

HAS ROLLING OUT HUNDREDS OF MILES OF DEDICATED CYCLE LANES DURING THE PANDEMIC BEEN THE RIGHT TIME TO IMPLEMENT

SHOULD ROAD CYCLISTS BE MADE TO ADHERE TO THE SAME ROAD USER RULES THAT DRIVERS LEGALLY MUST FOLLOW, SUCH AS:

1. MOTORING LAWS & PENALTIES

2. ROAD USER TESTS

3. ROAD TAXES

then the survey Meister went to the pub and we got the above.

The fact that anyone can take this survey and they have no idea on age, gender, ethnicity, etc.and  there's no independent scrutiny, this is little better than Facebook. 

I assume as a declared Walker and cyclist, I'll go straight in the bin anyway.

I think I was a mainly a yes on the last one above. 

Brilliant : "do you like paying taxes?" Rabble rousing.
 

 

 

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quiff | 4 years ago
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Completed. So that's 4 outliers in their data. I imagine I will now have the dubious honour of being on their mailing list too. 

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mdavidford replied to quiff | 4 years ago
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You used your real email address??

cool

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quiff replied to mdavidford | 4 years ago
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Want to make sure I get the results and the opportunity to participate in future!

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HoarseMann replied to quiff | 4 years ago
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now 5 outliers.

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hawkinspeter | 4 years ago
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I've already made some snarky comments about this survey on the Live Blog, so here, I'll just point out that the very name "Fair Fuel UK" is implying that fuel tax is unfair.

Fuel tax is indeed unfair as it has been kept frozen for a significant period of time (too busy ranting - no time to check the facts) and it doesn't take into account the external costs of just dumping the burnt products into the air for everyone to breathe in.

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Daveyraveygravey | 4 years ago
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I've filled it in, probably a little more pro cycling than I actually am, just to try and balance some of the knuckle dragging responses they are bound to get.  It would be funny if their survey told them that everyone wanted LTNs and more space for cycling!

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Mungecrundle replied to Daveyraveygravey | 4 years ago
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Completed. I'm not sure I am their target demographic though.

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