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Chainrings - always replace with like for like??

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If my outer chain ring has expired, do I need to replace with another Shimano outer ring or can you use any?

 

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kevvjj | 7 years ago
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Outer chainrings are a very infrequent change... you could have it on your bike for years. So, I would go for a Shimano replacement - upgrade if you want - but stick with Shimano. A badly shifting chainring is a pain in the arse - choose wisely.

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DaveE128 | 7 years ago
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I'd suggest that upgrading chainrings isn't always a good move. Shifting will not be as smooth if it doesn't have good ramps and pins, and Shimano ones are carefully designed so that the two chainrings work together for best shifting. The only benefit to be had IMHO is if you are going to Q-rings, and whether you'll find that beneficial is a controversial topic.

Also, if you have let your chain get to the point that your chainrings get knackered, you may be in for a variety of problems, depending on how many components you change at once. These include chainsuck, slipping chain and rapid wear on new components.

If your chain is significantly elongated by wear, you may do well to replace both rings, the chain and the cassette in one go.

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TypeVertigo replied to DaveE128 | 7 years ago
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DaveE128 wrote:

I'd suggest that upgrading chainrings isn't always a good move. Shifting will not be as smooth if it doesn't have good ramps and pins, and Shimano ones are carefully designed so that the two chainrings work together for best shifting. The only benefit to be had IMHO is if you are going to Q-rings, and whether you'll find that beneficial is a controversial topic.

Also, if you have let your chain get to the point that your chainrings get knackered, you may be in for a variety of problems, depending on how many components you change at once. These include chainsuck, slipping chain and rapid wear on new components.

If your chain is significantly elongated by wear, you may do well to replace both rings, the chain and the cassette in one go.

Praxis has the same "timing" applied to their chainrings and tooth profiles. They call this technology "LevaTime"

The long and short of it is, their road chainrings are meant to be used as a matched pair and installed in a certain configuration for optimum timing and shift quality. Chainrings were one of Praxis' first real products, and they were really well reviewed for their stiffness and shifting, but eventually they realized creating their own cranks to go with them was the way to go.

Regarding chainsuck - it happened to me on my stock FSA Omega crank. Pretty scary. Pedaling through it means ripping the FD and its mount point clean off the bike.

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ktache | 7 years ago
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Upgrade.  Always upgrade.  

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ianking | 7 years ago
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Is it worth rotating the chainring to even out the wear? 

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beezus fufoon replied to ianking | 7 years ago
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ianking wrote:

Is it worth rotating the chainring to even out the wear? 

no

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FMOAB | 7 years ago
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Get the bolt spacing right and, on older setups, there is a world of choice.  5 bolt 130 or 110 bolt centre diameter (BCD) is the older Shimano standard (moving to 4 bolt now on just about all their groupsets) 

The cheapest replacements probably won't have the ramps and pins that Shimano use to make shifting faster/easier under load.

I've used cheap and cheerful entirely plain chainrings without really noticing any difference.  Even if it's slightly slower, how often do you change chainring?

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TypeVertigo | 7 years ago
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It depends on the crank. If you've got a five-arm crank, then Ogi's suggestion largely applies - just match up BCDs with the new chainrings and you're ready to go.

Shimano started changing things up with their asymmetric X-shaped 110 mm BCD cranks though. Those started on Dura-Ace 9000 and worked their way down to Sora R3000 - the only cranks that still have the old five-arm configuration are the non-series ones like the RS500. Campagnolo and FSA have followed suit with their own proprietary crank BCDs. In these cases, finding aftermarket chainrings that will fit becomes a bit of a challenge, and replacing like for like becomes sage advice.

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Ogi | 7 years ago
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You can use various different makes - as long as your BCD matches (110 or 130 for Shimano). I would personally suggest to try out for example Rotor ones (with or without Q), but if price is a factor...I think original Shimano are possibly the best choice (Rotor is probably pricier). If you want to go even cheaper, FSA or TA (French company) could be the way to go. There are lots of others (Praxis, Race Face etc.).

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