After much speculation since Eurobike last summer, Brompton has unveiled bikes with 12-speed gearing across its T Line, Electric P Line, P Line, and Electric C Line models. Before you envision a 12-speed cassette on this tiny folding bike, we must start by saying that is not what these new models will come with.
The update – which essentially doubles the current max offering of six gears – will combine the existing three-speed hub and four-speed derailleur for more gear range but maintain the same compact folding bike design. Thus, there isn’t anything massively groundbreaking going on here – the existing C Line Explore already combines a 3-speed hub with a two-speed mech – rather Brompton has built on what it already knew works.
The way Brompton has increased the number of gears is by pairing the 3-speed Sturmey-Archer hub with a lightweight 4-speed derailleur originally designed for the ultralight titanium T Line. The front hub is weather-sealed, which should ensure durability and minimal maintenance.
Everything is controlled by two shifters; the right shifter manages the hub gear and the left controls the derailleur. Critics have said this might make the shifting overly complicated – we will wait and see to get our hands on a test bike before judging that.
The various new Brompton 12-Speed options are available now through Brompton dealers and on the Brompton website and are priced as follows:
- T Line Explore 12-Speed (8.8 kg) – £4,725.
- P Line Explore 12-Speed (10.5 kg) – £2,450.
- Electric P Line Explore 12-Speed (16.3 kg) – £3,895.
- Electric C Line Explore 12-Speed (17.3 kg) – £3,150.
The new 12-speed models will offer a wider gear ratio – almost as large as that of an 11-speed road bike. The 11T to 18T rear sprockets paired with a 50T chainring in the new 12-speed setup will give you a range of 402% (the 6-speed gives 302%), with gear inches from 29.4 to 118.2.
14 thoughts on “Brompton goes 12-Speed across most of its range, doubling the number of gears on the classic folding bike”
Cruitially this also gives
Cruitially this also gives the T-line a very usable 4-speed derailuer setup for not much weight.
I’m going to stick with my good ‘ol ten year old M6L but if I ever needed to buy a new Brompton I know which one I’d get.
What does this do to the
What does this do to the overall gear range? on the 6 speed the 2 cogs give you interemediate gears between the 3 on the wide range hub. Unless this has a wider range hub doesn’t this just give you small increments between hub gears and loads of duplicate gears? And a more complex and higher maintenance gear system?
I’m on my second m6 and as regular user for nearly 20 years now what i’d really like is a 6+ speed hub (and ideally, though i know the fold makes it near impossible a belt drive)
This seems like a big step backwards for Brompton gearing to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzoq4b8XV4
SimonS wrote:
There’s an image of the gear ranges at the bottom of the article you’re commenting on. It looks to me that it must be a different hub, but not massively different. I’d think it’s worth it just to get a sub-30 gear inch low gear.
Apologies we didn’t have that
Apologies we didn’t have that info when the article was published, all updated now and yep you are getting quite a bit more range with the 12-speed gearing compared to 6.
I’d heard about this one
I’d heard about this one being in development. It’s nice to see it’s finally out. I still think a 20″ wheel is what the firm needs to introduce at some point as the tyre choice will be so much better.
You can get aftermarket fork
You can get aftermarket fork and rear section that take 20″ wheels (and standard hubs).
It must affect the fold, but it seems to work well enough I’m slightly surprised Brompton haven’t changed their hub spacing.
Interesting, tho they only
Interesting, tho they only take narrow 20″ slick tyres. I’d want to be able to use 1.75 Maxxis DTHs.
Sram (ex Sachs) Dual Drive
Sram (ex Sachs) Dual Drive called from the 90’s. It wants its idea back. (3×7 then 3×8-10 using 3 speed hub and 7/8/9/10 sp cassette.
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/dualdrive-shifter.html
Secret_squirrel wrote:
To be fair to Brompton, they’ve done this for a long time now, my 6 speed is the 3 speed hub and a 2 speed derailleur, all they’ve done is replaced 2 sprockets with 4 at the back.
So now the hub gear from 1904
So now the hub gear from 1904 is paired with a derailleur from 1940 instead of from 1910!
Such incredible advancement of technology from brompton, how will other brands catch up?
Patrick9-32 wrote:
Ssshh, don’t mention advancement of technology, you’ll send the comments into meltdown about disc brakes/electronic gears/composite materials/tubeless tyres/wider tyres/big cassettes/etc*.
* tick all that apply.
So the question on everyone’s
So the question on everyone’s mind is “can I upgrade my Brommie?”. Do I need a new rear triangle or can I bodge my current one? Someone has to offer this as an upgrade kit. Puleeeaze!
I’d rather get Kinetics in
I’d rather get Kinetics in Glasgow to build me a new rear triangle and a rear wheel with Shimano or Rohloff hub gears. Hub gears make much more sense for a city bike and a folding bike – fewer exposed parts to damage and the ability to change gear while stopped at a junction.
IanGlasgow wrote:
Well said