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The “no-regrets” handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“I should have done it sooner”: Cyclist turns heads with “no regrets” handlebar set-up, cutting off drops because “it just feels perfect”; TWO Tour de France Femmes stages in one day + more on the live blog

It’s another sunny day with the Tour de France on the telly… what more could you want? Oh, right, you’re all at work… anyway, Dan Alexander is on live blog duty keeping you on top of all the cycling-related news, reaction and more this Tuesday
  • by Dan Alexander
Tue, Aug 13, 2024 08:11
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SUMMARY

  • Raleigh relocates to historic Nottinghamshire site as iconic British brand promises "ambitious plans" for future growth, months after job cuts and move away from previous headquarters
  • Today at the Tour — Dutch double-header will see two stages decided in one day
  • 6% of Brits believe they could qualify for the 2028 Olympic Games cycling road race if they started training now
  • Charlotte Kool wins again, sprints to second stage victory of Tour de France Femmes
  • Horror crash that left track cycling spectator with "machete-like" injury prompts London velodrome to install Perspex barrier, two years after rider catapulted into crowd, "almost killing" children
  • "Cutting off the drops will have been a great idea right up until the point when you're going down a really fast descent and you reach for the drops..."
  • Giant's profits slashed by 17% and sales down 13% for first half of 2024 – but company expects "gradual" improvement as inventory levels return to normal
  • "Well, that was a fun morning!": Transport Secretary Louise Haigh joins Chris Boardman and Laura Laker on Trans-Pennine Trail (N62) bike ride
  • "I was getting ripped off left, right, and centre by the people looking after me": Bradley Wiggins slams "sofa surfing" reports as "sensationalism" and explains bankruptcy "mess" in candid Lance Armstrong interview
  • Demi Vollering wins Tour de France Femmes time trial, takes yellow jersey
  • "I should have done it sooner": Cyclist turns heads with "no regrets" handlebar set-up, cutting off drops because "it just feels perfect"
The “no-regrets” handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
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13 August 2024, 08:11

Raleigh relocates to historic Nottinghamshire site as iconic British brand promises "ambitious plans" for future growth, months after job cuts and move away from previous headquarters

New Raleigh headquarters at Durban House, Eastwood (Raleigh)
New Raleigh headquarters at Durban House, Eastwood (Raleigh) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
New Raleigh headquarters at Durban House, Eastwood (Raleigh)
New Raleigh headquarters at Durban House, Eastwood (Raleigh) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Raleigh relocates to historic Nottinghamshire site as iconic British brand promises “ambitious plans” for future growth, months after job cuts and move away from previous headquarters

13 August 2024, 08:11

Today at the Tour — Dutch double-header will see two stages decided in one day

Local road race crammed into a weekend vibes at the Tour de France Femmes today, a morning road race followed by an afternoon TT. The AM action is well underway, 40km to go there, then the riders will take to the streets of Rotterdam again this afternoon for a six-kilometre-long individual time trial, two stages that I reckon even I could get through. Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t be in the time limit, but still a flat 70km in the sun sounds quite pleasant.

Stage two:

2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 2 (ASO)
2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 2 (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 2 (ASO)
2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 2 (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Stage three: 

2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 3 (ASO)
2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 3 (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 3 (ASO)
2024 Tour de France Femmes stage 3 (ASO) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Some more reaction to yesterday before today explodes into life, yellow jersey Charlotte Kool unsurprisingly called it the “best day of my life” after winning the opening sprint. For compatriot Lorena Wiebes it certainly was not, the pre-stage favourite explaining later that the mechanical, which was in fact not a dropped chain but her derailleur “breaking off in a race incident”, gave her no chance.

“This is a disappointment. I am not looking for excuses. I had been looking forward to this for a long time, but knew bad luck,” she said. “You work very hard for months and then you miss out.”

The Tashkent team was also a popular interview last night, four of their seven riders abandoning on stage one, the team getting a place at the race by virtue of a top-18 ranking earned through points gained in races in its home Central Asia region, rather than at more competitive European events. When the team’s riders were chucked in at the calendar’s biggest event, several of those riders being young, inexperienced and clearly not yet at the level for such an intense WorldTour race, more than half couldn’t make it to the finish on day one.

However, the team’s sports director Volodymyr Starchyk hit back at criticism of the team’s performance, telling Cyclingnews their presence at the race is a “victory” for the sport. 

“People can think everything they want. Everybody is able to think about what they want but we are here, it’s something big for the nation,” he said. “The first time in history an Uzbek team with all Uzbek riders so I think also for cycling it’s a victory because a country completely outside of races in Europe, an Asian team coming here to Tour de France, it’s never happened in history. So it’s sad for results because we lose some riders today but at the same time, Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift shows people that cycling is open for the whole world.”

13 August 2024, 08:11

6% of Brits believe they could qualify for the 2028 Olympic Games cycling road race if they started training now

 
 
 
 
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You might have seen this YouGov research doing the rounds since the weekend, but wow, give me the confidence of the six per cent of Brits who believe they could qualify for the 2028 Olympic Games road race if they started training now. A marginally more modest five per cent said the track sprint would be one they could qualify for… 

13 August 2024, 08:11

Charlotte Kool wins again, sprints to second stage victory of Tour de France Femmes

It doesn’t get much better for Charlotte Kool and dsm-firmenich PostNL than this. Dutch rider in the Netherlands, in yellow, winning the first two stages of the Tour de France Femmes. SD Worx looked in control, launching Lorena Wiebes at what seemed to be the perfect moment. But, as her sprint went on, Kool closed, picking a gap between Marianne Vos and Wiebes perfectly, punching through and winning it on the line. 

Wiebes and Vos took second and third, this afternoon’s TT is going to be very interesting to see if Kool can hold onto yellow for another day, the short six-kilometre course perhaps just about in the wheelhouse of the peloton’s fastest sprinters. The yellow jersey has a 14-second advantage over Anniina Ahtosalo and Wiebes, 16 seconds on Vos and Elisa Balsamo, and 20 seconds on the rest of the contenders. This is going to be fun.

13 August 2024, 08:11

Horror crash that left track cycling spectator with "machete-like" injury prompts London velodrome to install Perspex barrier, two years after rider catapulted into crowd, "almost killing" children

Scratch race crash, 2022 Commonwealth Games
Scratch race crash, 2022 Commonwealth Games (Image Credit: SWpix.com)
Scratch race crash, 2022 Commonwealth Games
Scratch race crash, 2022 Commonwealth Games (Image Credit: SWpix.com)

> Horror crash that left track cycling spectator with “machete-like” injury prompts London velodrome to install Perspex barrier, two years after rider catapulted into crowd, “almost killing” children

13 August 2024, 08:11

"Cutting off the drops will have been a great idea right up until the point when you're going down a really fast descent and you reach for the drops..."

Comments section time…

The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

A great story for getting followers who haven’t actually read today’s blog telling you on Facebook that hill climbers have been doing this for years. And of course said hill climbers sending in their gramme-saving sawing, this courtesy of Dale Wilkes…

Reader's hill climb bike (Dale Wilkes/Facebook)
Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Reader's hill climb bike (Dale Wilkes/Facebook)
Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

As a couple of you have touched on, the remarkable thing about the drop-less wonder that made today’s blog is that it wasn’t done for hill climb purposes, just a gravel-riding preference. The other context we’ve heard people do similar is on a commuter if you don’t want to buy a pair of bullhorn bars. In fact, ultra-cycling legend Steve Abraham replied to one of our social media posts saying he’d done the same “and flipped them upside down to make bullhorns for my fixie”.

Mark Wynn-Edwards also told us: “Yep, did this years ago on one of my travel bikes. Best thing ever, doesn’t get in the way and I didn’t ever drop down there anyway.”

Paul Ruffy: “Well I’d probably reach for them and eat tarmac. But seriously they are there for a reason. Adds another position to alleviate any pressure points, more aero (sometimes) and also I think much safer for descending at high speed.”

billymansell: “Cutting off the drops will have been a great idea right up until the point when you’re going down a really fast descent and you reach for the drops…”

Of course, my favourite comments were of the less serious kind…

hawkinspeter: “To enforce my use of the drops, I’m going to remove the tops from my handlebar.”

slc: “I removed the wheels to get below the wind. Seem to work pretty well as I can’t feel a breeze no matter how hard I pedal.”

Anyway, if you get bored of riding without parts of your bars and need a new fix, try this one, courtesy of live blog favourite Chad Tavernia…

Chad Tavernia 100-mile out the saddle (Image credit: Chad Tavernia/Strava)
Strava) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Chad Tavernia 100-mile out the saddle (Image credit: Chad Tavernia/Strava)
Strava) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

 

13 August 2024, 08:11

Giant's profits slashed by 17% and sales down 13% for first half of 2024 – but company expects "gradual" improvement as inventory levels return to normal

2024 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 105 Di2 - downtube.jpg
2024 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 105 Di2 - downtube (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2024 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 105 Di2 - downtube.jpg
2024 Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 105 Di2 – downtube (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Giant’s profits slashed by 17% and sales down 13% for first half of 2024 – but company expects “gradual” improvement as inventory levels return to normal

13 August 2024, 08:11

"Well, that was a fun morning!": Transport Secretary Louise Haigh joins Chris Boardman and Laura Laker on Trans-Pennine Trail (N62) bike ride

Louise Haigh bike ride with Chris Boardman and Laura Laker
Louise Haigh bike ride with Chris Boardman and Laura Laker (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
Louise Haigh bike ride with Chris Boardman and Laura Laker
Louise Haigh bike ride with Chris Boardman and Laura Laker (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

Positive signs? Labour’s new Transport Secretary Louise Haigh has shared these photos on social media, reporting having spent the morning out cycling the Trans-Pennine Trail (N62) with Active Travel Commissioner Chris Boardman and road.cc contributor and active travel author/journalist Laura Laker. 

13 August 2024, 08:11

"I was getting ripped off left, right, and centre by the people looking after me": Bradley Wiggins slams "sofa surfing" reports as "sensationalism" and explains bankruptcy "mess" in candid Lance Armstrong interview

Sir Bradley Wiggins with his fifth Olympic gold medal
Sir Bradley Wiggins with his fifth Olympic gold medal (Image Credit: SWpix.com)
Sir Bradley Wiggins with his fifth Olympic gold medal
Sir Bradley Wiggins with his fifth Olympic gold medal (Image Credit: SWpix.com)

> “I was getting ripped off left, right, and centre by the people looking after me”: Bradley Wiggins slams “sofa surfing” reports as “sensationalism” and explains bankruptcy “mess” in candid Lance Armstrong interview

13 August 2024, 08:11

Demi Vollering wins Tour de France Femmes time trial, takes yellow jersey

Defending champion, Demi Vollering, relegates Chloe Dygert to second place in the individual time trial, besting her time by a staggering 5.21 seconds! 🤯⏱️#TDFF2024 pic.twitter.com/CVQry7II1B

— Eurosport (@eurosport) August 13, 2024

You know what? I’m a fan of the couple of sprint stages into short, almost prologue-length, time trial that the Tour de France Femmes experimented with in the Netherlands (admittedly, as the teams would point out, having the latter two of those three on the same day does create a bit of a logistical headache).

Granted, also, the organisers have been somewhat limited by the pancake-like terrain on offer, but it turned the short TT into a sort of yellow jersey handicap race against the clock where the top sprinters get a bit of a head start due to bonus seconds won on the opening two days, and try to fend off the specialists and GC favourites.

We wondered if Charlotte Kool might be able to cling onto yellow for another stage, but alas not, Lorena Wiebes the closest of the sprinters to taking the race lead. However, ultimately it was, like we suspect a couple more days later in the week, one for Demi Vollering, the 2023 TDFF champ taking yellow before the race even leaves her home country or climbs a hill of note.

It continues the dominance Dutch riders have held over the race since its return to the calendar in 2022. Of 19 stages across three editions so far, 12 have gone to riders from the Netherlands, while the yellow jersey has been worn by a Dutch rider after all but six stages, Lotte Kopecky the only person to disrupt that GC dominance. You probably wouldn’t bet against Vollering holding yellow all the way to Alpe d’Huez either.

Olympic champion Grace Brown gave her golden TT bike a first run today, a puncture deflating her chances. Of the other notable Olympic performers, Chloe Dygert was second, road race champ Kristen Faulkner fifth, and Anna Henderson 10th. Decent showings by many, but today (and maybe this entire race) is all about Vollering.

13 August 2024, 08:11

"I should have done it sooner": Cyclist turns heads with "no regrets" handlebar set-up, cutting off drops because "it just feels perfect"

The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

[Brett Reynolds/Facebook]

It is almost hill climb season, I guess… although we reckon cutting off your drops in the search of a tiny weight saving to smash it up a five-minute climb and do no further riding that day is a very different vibe to ditching the drops on the bike you do all your riding on.

Jo spotted this on Facebook where, unsurprisingly, it’s getting quite a lot of attention. No regrets for Brett the bike’s owner, in fact he’s saying he “should’ve done it sooner”.

The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook)
The "no-regrets" handlebar set-up (Brett Reynolds on Facebook) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

“Use ’em or lose ’em… I just cut them off,” he told the entertained masses. “I have been considering doing this for years and as I had spare bars lying around… did it. I just don’t use the drops at all and ride the hoods for everything and it somehow feels better, I can’t explain it, it just feels perfect with no position compromises. If you are like me and you have some spare bars, try it.”

Don’t encourage the hill climbers, Brett, they need no convincing to mutilate poor bicycles…

2022 National Hill Climb Trigon - 1 (1)
2022 National Hill Climb Trigon - 1 (1) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2022 National Hill Climb Trigon - 1 (1)
2022 National Hill Climb Trigon – 1 (1) (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

> Weird and wonderful bikes from the National Hill Climb Championships 

2022 National Hill Climb Trek Emonda SL - 1
2022 National Hill Climb Trek Emonda SL - 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)
2022 National Hill Climb Trek Emonda SL - 1
2022 National Hill Climb Trek Emonda SL – 1 (Image Credit: Farrelly Atkinson)

My eyes…

Need we ask if any of you are tempted? More importantly has anyone done it before? Any regrets? On the plus side, you’re going to get slightly more bang for your buck out of bar tape and eradicate that silly dead leg every cyclist only gives themself once if you carelessly smash your knee/quad into a drop. On the other side, not being able to… well, use the drops is something of a vote-swinger for us… but I guess if, like Brett, you never use them anyway, that’s less of an issue.

Oh, and no, you won’t be able to call in that warranty cover if something goes wrong… but you probably knew that anyway if you’re prepping to take a saw to your handlebars.

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Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too. Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he’s not working you’ll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he’ll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he’s a bit strange like that.  

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49 thoughts on ““I should have done it sooner”: Cyclist turns heads with “no regrets” handlebar set-up, cutting off drops because “it just feels perfect”; TWO Tour de France Femmes stages in one day + more on the live blog”

  1. ROOTminus1
    August 13, 2024 at 9:00 am
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    Seems to me that if the owner
    Seems to me that if the owner is constantly on the hoods and never touches the drops then their setup isn’t right. Either raise the bars slightly to make both positions more comfortable, or work on some back flexibility stretches to aero tuck on the drops

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    • Secret_squirrel
      August 13, 2024 at 9:12 am
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      These are Hill Climbers.  By

      These are Hill Climbers.  By definition they are nutters and only on the bike for 15 mins at a time.

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      • OnYerBike
        August 13, 2024 at 9:48 am
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        I don’t think the main bike

        I don’t think the main bike mentioned was intended to be a hill-climbing weight weenie – the owner just said they never used the drops.

        The other bikes are mentioned have been modified specifically for hill climbing and featured previously on road.cc – so in classic road.cc tradition they have been regurgitated from the archives to pad out the main story and provide a bonus link for people to click.

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      • Matthew Acton-Varian
        August 13, 2024 at 10:03 am
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        The original poster was not a

        The original poster was not a hillclimber. They might not have known about the niche discipline.

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    • webbierwrex
      August 13, 2024 at 10:13 am
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      I agree, for an every day use

      I agree, for an every day use bike never using the drops is a massive red flag that the drop is too much or the reach is too much, or both. 

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      • Rendel Harris
        August 13, 2024 at 1:41 pm
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        webbierwrex wrote:

        I agree, for an every day use bike never using the drops is a massive red flag that the drop is too much or the reach is too much, or both. 

        — webbierwrex

        The drops on my everyday use bike are exactly the same size, shape and position as on my “race” bike and I doubt I’ve touched them once this year (about 4500kms commuting), no “red flag”, I just don’t need them in everyday urban riding.

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    • john_smith
      August 13, 2024 at 12:14 pm
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      Maybe he never rides really

      Maybe he never rides really hard?

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      • ROOTminus1
        August 13, 2024 at 12:58 pm
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        john_smith wrote:

        Maybe he never rides really hard?

        — john_smith

        They appear to be making it very hard for themselves. Flat, open road with a headwind? Stay sat up on the hoods. Also, take note of the gravel/cx tyres, important for grip on the canal towpath, but also 100% resistance training on the tarmac, all day every day

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      • webbierwrex
        August 13, 2024 at 1:29 pm
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        john_smith wrote:

        Maybe he never rides really hard?

        — john_smith

        Drops aren’t just for riding hard, they are also useful for distrubting fatigue across hands and arms and also increases control and lowers the centre of gravity. 

        I guess you could say “maybe they never ride for very long or like going down hill fast” but…if you don’t ride hard, or long or require a good handling bike why go to the effort of cutting handlebars?

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        • john_smith
          August 13, 2024 at 11:24 pm
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          No idea, I just don’t reckon

          No idea, I just don’t reckon not using the drops implies there’s a problem with your position. When I was riding regularly I would go through the entire winter hardly touching the drops. I can imagine that someone who only does long slow rides wouldn’t ever need them, not that I would consider cutting them off even if I never ever used them.

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    • andystow
      August 13, 2024 at 1:46 pm
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      Exactly. I’m on the drops

      Exactly. I’m on the drops maybe 5%-10% of the time, but they’re really great when I want them. When I built my current gravel bike, I actually set up the bars a couple of centimetres higher than on the touring bike I was replacing, to make all three positions usable.

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    • mark1a
      August 13, 2024 at 2:40 pm
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      Hoods? They’re overrated too.

      Hoods? They’re overrated too. If you’re going to lose the drops, then the hoods need to go as well. This is my hillclimb project, brakes are using bartop levers, and rear mech is using SW-R600 climber Di2 shifter.

       

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      • chrisonabike
        August 13, 2024 at 3:37 pm
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        But is removing the pedals

        But is removing the pedals maybe a step too far?

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        • mark1a
          August 13, 2024 at 3:50 pm
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          At the time of the photo, I

          At the time of the photo, I was waiting for some used Dura Ace pedals to arrive from eBay, but well observed old chap. 

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      • Backladder
        August 13, 2024 at 5:13 pm
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        mark1a wrote:

        Hoods? They’re overrated too. If you’re going to lose the drops, then the hoods need to go as well. This is my hillclimb project, brakes are using bartop levers, and rear mech is using SW-R600 climber Di2 shifter.

        — mark1a

        But if you remove the hoods what do you pull on when out of the saddle? Looks like you could lose a couple of chain links as well!

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        • Pub bike
          August 13, 2024 at 6:41 pm
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          Backladder wrote:

          But if you remove the hoods what do you pull on when out of the saddle? Looks like you could lose a couple of chain links as well!

          — Backladder

          I use the drops for sprinting out of the saddle.  Mark Cavendish does as well but then he generates about 2000W more than I do.

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    • kevgravelkev
      August 14, 2024 at 6:21 am
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      Nope. Had a bike fit etc etc.

      Nope. Had a bike fit etc etc. Rarely on the drops – just don’t see the need.

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  2. billymansell
    August 13, 2024 at 9:13 am
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    Cutting off the drops will

    Cutting off the drops will have been a great idea right up until the point when you’re going down a really fast descent and you reach for the drops…

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    • john_smith
      August 13, 2024 at 12:10 pm
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      On some of the roads around

      On some of the roads around here you’d have a hard time keeping your hands on the drops on a really fast descent even if they were there.

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      • Boopop
        August 13, 2024 at 3:25 pm
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        john_smith wrote:

        On some of the roads around here you’d have a hard time keeping your hands on the drops on a really fast descent even if they were there.

        — john_smith

        Maybe I’m missing something but isn’t one of the points of the drops precisely so that your hands don’t come off the bars when riding over bumps/potholes on a descent?

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  3. OldRidgeback
    August 13, 2024 at 10:30 am
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    I cut off a set of drops

    I cut off a set of drops years ago. It was a great set up for commuting.

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    • brooksby
      August 13, 2024 at 10:36 am
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      Isn’t that just a set of

      Isn’t that just a set of bullhorn bars?

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      • OldRidgeback
        August 13, 2024 at 4:36 pm
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        Nope, they’re wider.

        Nope, they’re wider.

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  4. brooksby
    August 13, 2024 at 10:37 am
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    6% of Brits surveyed are

    6% of Brits surveyed are idiots.

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    • IanMK
      August 13, 2024 at 12:02 pm
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      You’re statistically
      You’re statistically incorrect. You’re assuming that there’s a lot of overlap and that the 6% of idiots that believe they could compete in road race are the same 6% that think they could qualify for the 100m. The qualifying time being 10 seconds for men and just over 11 seconds for women. Also the survey revealed that 15% of over 65s thought they could compete at Olympic level in 4 years time. There are a lot more than 6% of idiots.

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      • Backladder
        August 13, 2024 at 2:48 pm
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        Yes, nore like out of the 27%

        Yes, nore like out of the 27% who thought they could qualify for one or more sport approximately 26.99% are idiots.

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    • john_smith
      August 13, 2024 at 12:07 pm
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      In the Olympic men’s road

      In the Olympic men’s road race they barely averaged 25 mph, with the best possible equipment, training and support.

      A lycra-clad (from head to toe) commuter will typically do 50 mph, with no special preparation or backup.

      Methinks you’re being too judgemental.

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    • C3a
      August 14, 2024 at 5:55 am
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      You never know.  In amongst

      You never know.  In amongst that 6% could be a few folk who have the right stuff in terms of genetics and physicality who with the right support, training and nutrition could get there.

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  5. mctrials23
    August 13, 2024 at 10:38 am
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    I wonder how many people

    I wonder how many people would change their answer to the poll when they hear they don’t qualify for australian citizenship and that breakdancing won’t be in the next olmpics…

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  6. hawkinspeter
    August 13, 2024 at 11:56 am
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    To enforce my use of the

    To enforce my use of the drops, I’m going to remove the tops from my handlebar

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    • slc
      August 13, 2024 at 12:31 pm
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      I removed the wheels to get
      I removed the wheels to get below the wind. Seem to work pretty well as I can’t feel a breeze no matter how hard I pedal.

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    • chrisonabike
      August 13, 2024 at 1:21 pm
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      I followed advice and cut off

      I followed advice and cut off the drops.  Much more convenient for commuting, lighter, takes up less space etc.

      In fact I can fit them in a rucksack if I want.  Not sure what to do with the rest of the bike though?

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  7. MarkiMark
    August 13, 2024 at 2:01 pm
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    Drop bars. My guess is maybe

    Drop bars. My guess is maybe 95% of road cyclists never use the drops. They are there offering an alternative hand position, but I’ve rarely found them useful. Some might say the rider is more aerodynamic if on the drops, but this has been disproved. It’s more aerodynamic to be on the hoods with horizontal forearms. I wouldn’t cut my bars down though ‘cos they look fugly (and I might want to sell them one day).

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  8. mitsky
    August 13, 2024 at 2:54 pm
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    “Public outrage prompts

    “Public outrage prompts Melbourne e-scooter ban

    The Australian city of Melbourne has banned rental electronic scooters with officials saying they posed unacceptable safety risks.”

    I wonder what criteria they used to decide the risks were unacceptable.
    Would those same risks be applicable to motor vehicles/drivers?

    If it is based on the injuries (and deaths) caused by users, and the associated costs etc… could they be compared against the damage/injuries-deaths and other costs caused by motorists?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w68ywqv2go
     

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    • brooksby
      August 13, 2024 at 3:48 pm
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      It’s Australia, so the main

      It’s Australia, so the main criterion was probably whether or not the rental scooter was a car.  If not, then ban it!

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      • chrisonabike
        August 13, 2024 at 8:58 pm
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        What news of the Bristol

        What news of the Bristol scooter trial?  I’ve passed through the place at the beginning of the year and the apocalypse didn’t seem to be occurring.  Actually didn’t see that many being used.

        (I’m mostly “e-scooters not the answer to any of the questions we should be asking” but I also don’t think they’re the end of the world.  And for a few people having a tiny-folding “last mile” transporter could obviously be very *convenient*).

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        • hawkinspeter
          August 14, 2024 at 8:18 am
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          chrisonabike wrote:

          What news of the Bristol scooter trial?  I’ve passed through the place at the beginning of the year and the apocalypse didn’t seem to be occurring.  Actually didn’t see that many being used.

          (I’m mostly “e-scooters not the answer to any of the questions we should be asking” but I also don’t think they’re the end of the world.  And for a few people having a tiny-folding “last mile” transporter could obviously be very *convenient*).

          — chrisonabike

          I see lots of them around and they seem to be very popular for people to commute on. Mrs HawkinsPeter enjoys using them to get to her work and she also uses the e-bikes when she can find one available.

          E-scooters are definitely useful for short journeys and the “casual” nature of them appeals to a lot of people. They’re also incredibly nimble and so great for winding through queues of slow moving traffic.

          (Maybe too popular if the crime reports are anything to go by: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/e-scooters-bikes-being-set-9478089)

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    • RM
      August 13, 2024 at 7:12 pm
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      I believe the main issue is

      I believe the main issue is users dumping errr “parking” the scooters in all manner of places after using then causing trip/crash hazards for pedestrians and cyclists.
      And also injuries and the occasional death sustained by riders when they hit a rock or stick or other obstacle at speed  and come off. Some of these incidents would be from riders using the scooters not as they were intended to be used ie carrying passengers and not wearing a helmet.
      Nothing to do with cars at all.

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    • chrisonabike
      August 13, 2024 at 8:54 pm
      0

      I mean … “some people were

      I mean … “some people were riding them on the pavements”?

      What did they think would happen?

      16mph limits?  You’re on a pogo stick on wheels, what could go wrong?

      While much of this issue is give the general public new toys, expect ‘creative’ use” it may also be that Melbourne – while maybe changing – doesn’t seem to have protected infra which goes where people want to go (rather than a nice rambling shared-use trail).

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  9. Matthew Acton-Varian
    August 13, 2024 at 3:03 pm
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    All jokes aside the cut off

    All jokes aside the cut off drops chat has made me seriously consider buying an old used light carbon bike and rebuilding it for hill climbs, however such thought bubbles are punctured by the fact that I already have an incomplete new acquisition (a vintage 1949 Claud Butler Allrounder) and I don’t have the space or the money for another project. And I don’t want to go N-1 right now either as I don’t have a bike that doesn’t get used.

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    • mark1a
      August 13, 2024 at 3:39 pm
      0

      That was my thought process a

      That was my thought process a couple of winters ago, a hillclimber sub 6kg for sub £1500, to take on my local hillclimb competition one year. The starting point was a Boardman SLR (mine was acquired from eBay for £230, when ONE Pro cycling folded, the bikes & parts were sold off by Boardman, mine is ex Kamil Gradek), it was fun sourcing and weighing the parts before assembling it. 

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  10. peted76
    August 13, 2024 at 3:39 pm
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    I mean.. if that’s a gravel

    I mean.. if that’s a gravel bike with no drops.. they may was well have either brought a XC bike.. or convert it to a flat bar.. at least that way they’d be able to pull the brakes properly. 

     

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    • Rendel Harris
      August 13, 2024 at 4:56 pm
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      peted76 wrote:

      I mean.. if that’s a gravel bike with no drops.. they may was well have either brought a XC bike.. or convert it to a flat bar.. at least that way they’d be able to pull the brakes properly.

      — peted76

      Pretty sure you can pull the brakes properly with your hands on the hoods, I’ve done it loads of times.

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  11. quiff
    August 13, 2024 at 5:05 pm
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    My bikes have two things in
    My bikes have two things in common: (1) they all have drops (2) I almost never use the drops.

    Perhaps a bike fit is in order.

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  12. Pfaff
    August 13, 2024 at 5:20 pm
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    I’m down there 80% of my
    I’m down there 80% of my riding time. Would be quite difficult if nowhere to put your hands, eh?
    Yet another really stupid hack.

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    • Rendel Harris
      August 13, 2024 at 7:13 pm
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      Pfaff wrote:

      I’m down there 80% of my riding time.

      — Pfaff

      Genuinely curious, do you spend most of your time racing crits? I find it hard to imagine any other riding situation in which it would be necessary to spend 80% of your time on the drops, I think even pros would, unless it was a day with particularly strong and consistent headwinds, spend below 50% of their time on the drops. Each to their own of course but I would be interested to know why you spend so much time down there.

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  13. TROOPER74
    August 13, 2024 at 7:02 pm
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    First cut the drops off 25

    First cut the drops off 25 years ago … always have since , how much you cut depends on your hand size though …

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  14. chrisonabike
    August 13, 2024 at 8:33 pm
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    RE: Transport Secretary

    RE: Transport Secretary Louise Haigh joins Chris Boardman and Laura Laker on Trans-Pennine Trail (N62) bike ride

    This is all nice stuff, start ’em gently etc.  And she makes mention of the “variable” NCN…

    … except I think much of the NCN is “recreational” – in fact the whole thing is has an “adventure” rating I’d say.

    No-one got time for it but for full understanding people should have to cycle to the airport / train / ferry from where they are in the UK, be transported to NL, have a couple of days of cycling / walking / taking public transport around with people explaining both the finer details and the overall philosophies.  Then should be directed to ride back to their transport, returned to the UK and finally have to ride back home again there.

    Or is that just cruel?

    Still, I’d trust CB to get the message across.

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  15. mdavidford
    August 13, 2024 at 10:24 pm
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    I cut the drops off my bike

    I cut the drops off my bike for hill climbs – very happy with it. The only problem is the added weight of the spare bike for the downhill bits.

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Is this the electric cargo bike of the future, now? A first ride on the Tarran L1s that may just revolutionise carrying stuff by bike
Is this the electric cargo bike of the future, now? A first ride on the Tarran L1s that may just revolutionise carrying stuff by bike
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Avinox-powered Nukeproof Kilowatt launches in time for Eurobike… and prices start at just £3,999
Avinox-powered Nukeproof Kilowatt launches in time for Eurobike… and prices start at just £3,999
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A new do-it-all e-bike from Amflow, Halfords profits soar, New Jersey latest to attempt bike licensing and registration system + more
A new do-it-all e-bike from Amflow, Halfords profits soar, New Jersey latest to attempt bike licensing and registration system + more
This week we're looking at three intriguing new e-bikes, poring over Halfords' healthy profit margins, and heading stateside for some disappointing yet typical bike licensing news (will they ever learn?)
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Avinox’s MG Concept brings CVT-style gears to an e-MTB motor
Avinox’s MG Concept brings CVT-style gears to an e-MTB motor
Avinox is at it again, but its concept motor looks like quite the leap compared to current models
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Megamo’s RYAL e-MTB is set to bring Avinox motors to a friendlier price point with models starting at £3,999
Megamo’s RYAL e-MTB is set to bring Avinox motors to a friendlier price point with models starting at £3,999
It's not just an accessible price as Megamo aims to bring a more accessible geometry and sizing to its Avinox-powered e-MTB range
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The “world’s first AI solar e-bike” is coming to Kickstarter, with double-disc wheels featuring integrated solar panels for extra range
The “world’s first AI solar e-bike” is coming to Kickstarter, with double-disc wheels featuring integrated solar panels for extra range
17 miles of extra range that is, with a claimed range of up to 120 miles a day utilising the Samsung battery cells and solar power - reservations for the Phosgo City or Hybrid will start from $1,499 on Kickstarter in late July
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Bosch unveils its first hub motor, semi-pro wins Voi Bike Challenge at Nocturne crit race, Florida sets close pass law + more
Bosch unveils its first hub motor, semi-pro wins Voi Bike Challenge at Nocturne crit race, Florida sets close pass law + more
Bosch's first-ever hub-based motor, Voi crit, and e-bike-related updates from Oxfordshire and Florida feature in this week's round-up
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Rendel Harris 17 minutes ago

Not that it sounds like a dealbreaker given the other faults you've identified, but that cable isn't really a "proprietary" cable, four pin magnetic cables like that are quite common on bone-conducting headphones and other devices (my inexpensive smartwatch uses one) and they can be had for £4.99 on UK Amazon.

in: H2O Audio TRI Run open-ear bone conduction headphones
mctrials23 24 minutes ago

There was never really anything to say about le col kit. Most of it was alright. Some of it was poorly designed/made. Trying to position yourself as a Rapha competitor whilst always offering 40% or more off doesn't scream premium though.

in: Le Col enters administration months after takeover by tennis giant Head
ROOTminus1 56 minutes ago

Up next in the MucOff product line; for when the cassette won't budge, (chain)whip-it!

in: Muc-Off Collapsible Silicone Funnel
Rendel Harris 1 hour ago

(Plus I'm pretty certain TDF team leaders don't drive themselves to the start nor bring their own bicycles)

in: “Diolch!” Live free-to-air 2026 Tour de France coverage confirmed on S4C and iPlayer; “Left-hooking” driver spared police action after driver doesn’t report incident; Men’s Tour of Britain route + more on the live blog
Rendel Harris 2 hours ago

@MaxiMinimalist Absolutely, and there is not one inch of middle ground between cycling there and using an incredibly selfish and wasteful supercar, is there? Fortunately I suspect the whole thing is AI, as the footage on his Instagram shows the numberplate GT3...

in: “Diolch!” Live free-to-air 2026 Tour de France coverage confirmed on S4C and iPlayer; “Left-hooking” driver spared police action after driver doesn’t report incident; Men’s Tour of Britain route + more on the live blog
Smartstu 2 hours ago

That Dogma colour scheme...Don't hate it - but reminds my of the Orange Clorkwork I had in '95!

in: 2026 team bikes ranked: From the ‘cheapest’ to Pogacar’s £15k superbike, we attempt to rate every bike in the Tour de France
tubasti 3 hours ago

My last collision with a car happened like that too, except we were pulling from a red light and she didn't signal til I was next to her. But I wasn't hurt, damage to my bike and clothing was minimal, and she stopped and apologized profusely, explaining she had a brain fart and simply forgot I was there. Fair enough. I already knew her insurance adjuster, and we had a good laugh.

in: “Diolch!” Live free-to-air 2026 Tour de France coverage confirmed on S4C and iPlayer; “Left-hooking” driver spared police action after driver doesn’t report incident; Men’s Tour of Britain route + more on the live blog
mitsky 3 hours ago

@wtjs I got an NIP ref and subsequent update saying "The case has been transferred for court proceedings." but nothing after that (request to attend as witness or result). I've chased the police for an update but I won't be surprised if I get no response.

in: “Diolch!” Live free-to-air 2026 Tour de France coverage confirmed on S4C and iPlayer; “Left-hooking” driver spared police action after driver doesn’t report incident; Men’s Tour of Britain route + more on the live blog
Echo 3 hours ago

Is this a 'filler' article to get content out? Opinions are like nostrils we've all got them but out of the bikes in this opinion piece, laying down power on real roads and not being beaten up I would rate the Bianchi and the Lapierre.

in: 2026 team bikes ranked: From the ‘cheapest’ to Pogacar’s £15k superbike, we attempt to rate every bike in the Tour de France
MaxiMinimalist 3 hours ago

Why would one expect a nearly 27-yo professional with millions at the bank, who rides a bicycle for a living and wins cycling races, to cycle to the start of TdF?

in: “Diolch!” Live free-to-air 2026 Tour de France coverage confirmed on S4C and iPlayer; “Left-hooking” driver spared police action after driver doesn’t report incident; Men’s Tour of Britain route + more on the live blog

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