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British jaywalking laws incoming in 1.. 2… 3…
ArsTechnica has an interesting article on who’s to blame for this incident: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/03/police-chief-uber-self-driving-car-likely-not-at-fault-in-fatal-crash/
Tempe police chief says victim “came from the shadows right into the roadway.”I don’t know what technology Uber uses (probably the cheapest/worst judging by their ethos) but I thought that one advantage of driverless cars is being able to use Lidar type tech to be able to see things in the dark.
The problem with that idea is how do you market the cars to the poor drivers?Don’t ‘market’. Enforce
It’d be like selling a road bike with stabilisers fitted.
Or brakes?
I see your point about the lure of the open road and the unfettered thrills sold by the car adverts, but something really has to be done to disabuse those poor drivers of their sense of entitlement to kill and injure.
And if cars become crap to drive, maybe more people will cycle? (Careful what I wish for!)
There’s a problem with the ‘enforce’ option – politicians have zero interest in penalising motorists, so we’d better appeal to market forces.
Stabilisers and brakes aren’t the same – stabilisers help cyclists who can’t balance whereas brakes are useful for novice and expert cyclists.
I don’t think autonomous cars are going to be of much use until they get rid of the backup human driver requirement. Once they do, they can be marketed as allowing people to work/read/sleep whilst commuting (much like public transport).
If the tech companies can make (flawed) self driving cars, why can’t they make self limiting cars? Driver at the wheel, operating the controls and hopefully alert to hazards, but not able to break the speed limit, arrive at junctions at breakneck speed, go the wrong way down a motorway etc. etc.The know-how is clearly there, but not the political will.
Self driving cars seem to be the undisputable future, without much real debate or thought about the most appropriate application of the technology.
The problem with that idea is how do you market the cars to the poor drivers?
Approximately 90% of drivers think that they are better drivers than average, so you’d be left marketing this to the 10% of bad drivers who realise that they’re bad drivers.
It’d be like selling a road bike with stabilisers fitted.
If it smells of petrol or diesel you are smoking the wrong stuff.I think Brooksby is getting confused between different types of toxic air.
Although I personally find traffic fumes to be more unpleasant (especially at the concentrations in Britol), it appears that cigarettes produce a more harmful spectrum of particles:
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6312-cigarettes-more-polluting-than-diesel-exhaust/
I’d imagine that different plants in the cigarettes probably wouldn’t make much difference to the particulate distribution.
Boatsie wrote:
I read your name, in awe of great coordination of communication loss; late professor Hawkins. I mean no disrespect yet yeah you’re all barking mad. Toxic air could be used in a recyclable closed environment to study air displacement theory and use some advantage in aero bicycles. It is similar to hydrodynamics and water displacement used with semi planing kayak hulls. I took some photos of my old mates boat and believe it to be that of Olympic class 50+ years old. It’s pretty easy to use water to see how air can propel bicycles in a similar fashion. With regards to black hole, the theory I recognized is failure, children should devert their eyes and go the opposite way of air-water by studying light displacement theory is in my best interest too because I live on this planet, the local star( our daily light) needs repair and knowing what a pistol is you wouldn’t leave a loaded pistol next to an unsupervised 2 year old neither!!!!! Wondering.. Want a beer Concorde? Maybe we could drop some stout when the ‘ranga rings the pretty girl. Far, far awayHawking. His name was Stephen Hawking.
Looks like the inevitable
Looks like the inevitable robot uprising has begun.
This unfortunate incident highlights just how rubbish Level 2 autonomous driving is. It’s unreasonable to expect a driver to be paying enough attention to suddenly take control when they’re just sitting there without anything to focus on.
Autonomous vehicles only make much sense when they’re level 3 or above.
Thanks. When in hospital at age 10 with not many hours on a pair of same leg snapped bones my temperature rose. Ice cubes were offered and the doctor showed me a pizza cutter to cut the tight plaster on the continuing swollen growth of my leg. He complained to my mother when I screamed during a half leg cut! He ran the cutter over his hands and told me lies about the inability of his tool to slice skin. He cut again and I screamed. 6 weeks later when the plaster was reduced to a half leg calve the nurse mentioned that I had two cuts; overlapping in the middle. I had no reason to lie! I have no reason to lie! I had a lover, we had know reason two lie! Anyway, 20+years ago, I was soldier, I achieved A graded pass on battle fitness assessment while with a freshly broken wrist! My face later became smashed with at least 7 breaks of bone and a frequency tuned plate set was established! Another bunch of twats. 2 main choices; ignore Gods law or betray my own balance! I walk! I adjusted by running blind for kms until at fast pace on last run my guide dogs ran me into an established tree. I understand that whether you’re the head of the monarchy or a student of life about to breach some cunt; we are all equal! Believe equality isn’t false attempting to have sharks run a mile or humans float mid ocean pretending they will breath, eat and find fresh water. Equality is being you. Thanks regarding asking me. If you’d like to 2ND me I’ll read your post seeing you read mine! I grew up knowing that every being is his/her own language! WAR (within arms reach) is much simpler as a kind gentleman. Next time I’m in the UK would you like a beer? Kind regards Concorde because although that is truthfully written I probably do look like a bigger twat than most. I’m stuck! I use ‘muk off ‘ to lube my chain by applying such then ragging off but am wondering if I should use wd40 every now and then to clear and clean some! Best wishes, I hope we cycle longtime!!!It’s not even lunchtime yet and Boatsie wins this weeks internet! – Bravissimo!
I’ll second you Boastie, but don’t use wd40 on your chain it is not a lubricant, stick with oil.
I’d vote for Boatsie as king though I thought we were an autonomous collective.
I think he’s referring to using WD40 as a chain cleaner and it should work for that. I’d rather use a degreaser for chain cleaning, but then as I use wax/dry-lube, it’s better to not introduce any grease as it tends to prevent the wax staying put.
For long chain life, I recommend cleaning the chain before applying any lube to prevent road grit from being flushed further into the chain. That probably makes more difference than the choice of lube.
davel wrote:
I’m a barking mad paranoid looney fascist, and it’s only Monday. This week is going to Win.I’m more of a barking mad, paranoid, looney, socialist libertarian transhumanist myself.
You’re all barking mad paranoid lunatics with a twist of fascism on the sideSo you’re not actually disagreeing, then?
with what? The barking mad paranoid looney fascists, who are probably also swivvle-eyed, or the premise that something must be done about pollution?
Any of the above?
I think you’re a bit wide of the mark as Boatsie is a self-proclaimed king, so he can’t really be a fascist – more of a monarchist – and the rest of the commenters seem to be anti-government/anti-authoritarian.
I would hazard a guess that anyone posting on road.cc is going to be anti-pollution. Personally, I think that tax on diesel should be raised and possibly have some kind of incentive for businesses to switch to cleaner vehicles. Then after a year, start raising tax on petrol too.
However, politicians are scared/bought by the car industry and it would take a certain level of bravery and commitment to do this. That’s probably why the Maybot doesn’t want to do anything until 2040.
You’re all barking mad paranoid lunatics with a twist of fascism on the sideSo you’re not actually disagreeing, then?
@Davel – good point about the
@Davel – good point about the Ruskies. I’m very sceptical about the timing of the nerve agent attack as it seems auspicious for the Maybot to distract from the mess that is Brexit. It also seems a very clumsy attempt and almost as though it was designed to provoke a response (which doesn’t necessarily rule out that it was Russia behind it).
@Boatsie – I feel there are other alternatives we could try before thinning out the breeding population.
I don’t think the gearing
I don’t think the gearing will make as much difference as the difference in tyres and aerodynamics on a road bike vs a gravel bike. In general, drivetrain losses/inefficiencies are tiny, so recreational riders are unlikely to notice any real difference beyond which gear ratio you are using.
Di2 is lovely to use, but in my mind is more of a luxury thing. If you’ve got the money, then go for it but if you have to dress your children in sackcloth in order to afford it, then maybe a mechanical 105 groupset would be a better spend.
Since upgrading to a Di2 road bike, the biggest difference that I found was hydraulic disc brakes vs calipers. I’d assume that your 4k road bike would be equipped with hydraulics.
Haven’t heard of them before.
Haven’t heard of them before.
My initial thought is distrust, but then I’m like that with anything on Facebook.
However, after a quick look at their website, it looks kosher to me and is underwritten by Zurich so I’m now less skeptical.
It’s an interesting idea and it seems almost like the customers are being treated like the underwriters (i.e. the customers bear the cost of paying out claims). However as there’s a maximum premium, that shouldn’t be a problem.
Here’s an article that I’ve found giving some more background on them (they used to be called “Insure a Thing”): https://www.reinsurancene.ws/zurich-backs-fca-sandbox-tested-insurtech-laka/
Here’s BikeBiz info on them: https://www.bikebiz.com/news/fintech-creates-distruptive-cycle-insurance
@BTBS – I’m just trying to
@BTBS – I’m just trying to provide information on aluminium bike frames. Not everyone knows about the fatigue issue with aluminium and I just repeated a rough estimate on lifespans of alu frames. Obviously the life of the frame is dramatically changed by the quality of manufacture, the tolerances used and the type of use/abuse that the bike is subjected to.
I’ve got a Spesh RockHopper alu frame that must be over 10 years old and it still seems fine although the paint is bubbles/flaking off in places. I still use it for occasional off-road riding or shopping, but I don’t think it’d be worth spending money on a new groupset for it due to the age of the frame. If it was steel/titanium or carbon fibre, then I’d expect the frame to still be good.
It’s well worth being cautious with older alu frames so that you keep an eye on any new noises it might start making.
Your best bet is to commute
Your best bet is to commute in a flat-bed truck. Slowly bump into the back of the problem bikes until they fall over and then run over the bike so that they can’t use it anymore. Then rush off without exchanging details.
In the unlikely event that people have witnessed you doing that and you get caught, just don’t bother turning up for any police interviews or court appearances. Oh, it’s a good idea to wear a patch over one eye so that you can claim that they didn’t see you.
The worst that will happen is you get a 9-month driving ban (which you don’t care about as you’ll be cycling in future) and have to do some community service (probably quite therapeutic).
