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I’d love to take credit for
I’d love to take credit for those, but what’s the context?
Change is coming, but not from where we think. Driver-less cars will require segregation – not cos they’re a danger – the opposite. “Drivers” will not accept having to constantly slow/stop ‘cos their car gets too close to other road users. Ww won’t need strict liability with AI – (as long as Asimov’s Three Laws apply!)It’s actually four laws, the ‘zeroth law’. Latterly defined in words by Daneel R Olivaw (though the original concept is Susan Calvin’s) it’s actually more important and really applicable to the roads/driving/cycling/walking.
“A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm”
So with the likes of Mercedes already stating they would programme their self driving vehicles to sacrifice innocent people to protect their vehicles occupants in a situation could not be a thing if the AI is respecting the zeroth law. Because as we have seen over history, protecting a few inside the motors has had a far worse effect on individuals and society as a whole, not just directly on the road itself through collisions.
It’s been a while since I read it, but wasn’t the zeroth law used to get round the other three?
I’m imagining a post apocalyptic wasteland where sick and weak people are hunted down by robotic cars looking to improve the pool of remaining humans.
If you’re riding
If you’re riding professionally then use your head. If you ride for fun then go with your heart.
John Smith wrote:
Whilst in an ideal world everyone would have perfect cluch control and never move backwards, the reaity is that the vast majority of people do roll backwards to a greater or lesser extent when setting off on a hill. I’d suggest either giving much more room, waiting until the road is clear or not using that bit of rubbish half arse infrastructure at all and riding in the road. Thats a truly crap bit of shared-use path, not even some paint. I can’t realy blame the driver in this case.Really?
You can’t blame the driver for not being in control of their vehicle?
If you can’t move forwards without rolling backwards then you need to learn to control your vehicle in a safer environment before endangering other road users. It is completely your own responsibility and nothing to do with infrastructure, hills or any other tired, lame excuse.
Ok, want to be like that? I was trying to politely suggest a bit of consideration. If not, the OP should have treated the edge of the pavement as a give way like and waited for he car to pull off then crossed if we are going to start on what people “should” do. Perhaps everyone on road.cc is a driving god with every bit of their car perfectly working at all times, totally clutch control, total awareness of the whole road, follows all of the rules and never makes any mistakes. But in the real world people do sometimes not use enough revs, have a clutch that is not perfect, or a car with a food operated parking break (which can be a pain on hill starts) or a modem automatic, which do roll back a few inches. Or perhaps they just don’t use the hand break. Ultimate the OP should not have gone until the car had gone. If he had treated it as a give way line and waited to cross until the car had gone, as he should have, there would never have been an issue.
Its not about how I may or may not drive, but about just showing a bit of consideration for others. It’s this lack of tolerance on all sides that drives the way cyclists are treated on the roads.
In my view it’s not about having perfect clutch control, but being safe. If you can’t control a car well enough to prevent it rolling backwards whilst performing a standard, common manoeuvre, then you are not safe enough to be on the roads.Would you be able to pass a driving test if you were unable to pull away without rolling backwards?
ibr17xvii wrote:
Yay or nay to cleaning pads & rotors and if so what with?
Plan on riding through winter in variable weathers so think stuff will obviously get grimey but not ridiculously so as in if I were riding off road.
Read some stuff that says you’re best just leaving it alone as the residue from the pads deposited on the rotors aid braking & if you clean it off you have to bed them in again but read other stuff that says a wipe or squirt with Isopropyl Alcohol on the calipers/pads/rotors isn’t gonna do any harm.
What does everyone else do?
I don’t bother cleaning them, though they probably get splashed with car shampoo when I’m cleaning the rest of my bike.
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Sakine Cihan was struck by a power-assisted bicycle as she was crossing a road in LondonIf you run into a road, then anything you hit will likely cause you some injury. I just can’t believe they’re trying to push this rubbish.
Here’s a link to The Sun that has the CCTV footage: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7136632/cctv-video-dalston-hit-run-bike-crash/
It’s definitely not a good road to go up as you the pavement rises above the road, so if you need to stop, you end up pushing your bike up the steep road with not much room for cars to overtake you (which is what my wife ended up doing whilst I was waiting, chuckling, at the top).Don’t forget that there’s no footpath on the other side of the road, either.
And that there’s not even any access to the raised footpath for the length of the hill.
(For non-locals, “raised” in this case means the rutted and potholed footpath climbs at a steeper angle than the road and ends up about ten feet above the road!)
My wife won’t even take her car (1973 VW microbus) up there because she’s scared about what would happen if she had a mechanical halfway up… If she’s anywhere at the bottom she prefers to go all the way around and over the suspension bridge rather than up the hill!
What made it even funnier (to my twisted mind) was that we’d just had lunch and a pint and my wife had made some remark about her beating me up it when I warned her that the hill was a b**ch (she had no chance, I’m a lot quicker than her).
Watched the highlighs show in ITV Hub over the weekend as I was out of the country last week and knowing the local roads the last few miles to the finish were hard, climbing up Providence Lane in Long Ashton then Rownham Hill a few miles later is not the route I’d choose.I almost killed my wife a few weeks ago when I led her up Rownham Hill in the hunt for Gromits. She doesn’t like hills very much and it was a particularly hot day.
I lack the physical ability to ride up Rownham Hill, and the nerve to ride down it.
(I’ve ridden up Bridge Valley Road a few times, mind, on the shared-use path).
It’s definitely not a good road to go up as you the pavement rises above the road, so if you need to stop, you end up pushing your bike up the steep road with not much room for cars to overtake you (which is what my wife ended up doing whilst I was waiting, chuckling, at the top).
I wouldn’t fancy going down it as I’d be dragging my brakes all the way down and not getting much benefit from the gradient. I tend to be a bit cautious on steep hills and end up not going much quicker than if I were on the flat. I much prefer a nice long shallow downhill.
Watched the highlighs show in ITV Hub over the weekend as I was out of the country last week and knowing the local roads the last few miles to the finish were hard, climbing up Providence Lane in Long Ashton then Rownham Hill a few miles later is not the route I’d choose.I almost killed my wife a few weeks ago when I led her up Rownham Hill in the hunt for Gromits. She doesn’t like hills very much and it was a particularly hot day.
Nice work, but I think the
Nice work, but I think the handlebars fall foul of The Rules.
You’ll be fine.
You’ll be fine.
CF frames are as strong as other materials for typical cycling; the only issue is when they take knocks/impacts from other objects e.g. trees, cars, hammers. If you crash into trees often enough, then you’ll likely crack the frame.
You also need to be careful about over-tightening things like the seatpost as that’s an easy way to damage the frame, so either use a torsion guage/wrench or go very gentle (tighten until you hear the frame crack and then back off just before that happens).
A good lock will work as a deterrent, but won’t stand a chance against someone determined to nick a bike, so exercise caution about where you leave it locked up and for how long.
Most important of all is to remember to have fun riding it.
Whilst in an ideal world everyone would have perfect cluch control and never move backwards, the reaity is that the vast majority of people do roll backwards to a greater or lesser extent when setting off on a hill. I’d suggest either giving much more room, waiting until the road is clear or not using that bit of rubbish half arse infrastructure at all and riding in the road. Thats a truly crap bit of shared-use path, not even some paint. I can’t realy blame the driver in this case.Really?
You can’t blame the driver for not being in control of their vehicle?
If you can’t move forwards without rolling backwards then you need to learn to control your vehicle in a safer environment before endangering other road users. It is completely your own responsibility and nothing to do with infrastructure, hills or any other tired, lame excuse.
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Ditto
Ditto
Yep, that’s certainly worth
Yep, that’s certainly worth repeating.
