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David9694
Welcome to The Reform Party
Welcome to The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism. I guess the title has had the desired effect.
Google “Overton Window” – until this week, we had normalised things that would have been distinctly right-wing not so long ago.
The story now is of the hollowed-out (post-Johnston) remnants of the Conservative Party meeting together and sounding like a group of economic anc historical fruit-loops the equivalent of the so-called Looney Left. Feel free to drive yourselves ever further into unelectable irrelevance, guys.
Meanwhile, I’m not seeing anything from the “wet” end of the Conservatives – maybe their ground old ground has been stolen by Labour?
July 11, 2024 at 6:40 am in reply to: Car crashes into building – please post your Local news stories #968577
David9694
All we know about car crash
All we know about car crash into Morrisons in Romsey
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24444001.morrisons-shopfront-destroyed-car-loses-control/
Totton pensioners devastated after car crashes into front wall
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24444007.totton-pensioners-devastated-car-crashes-front-wall/
July 10, 2024 at 8:49 pm in reply to: Car crashes into building – please post your Local news stories #968575
David9694
Driver taken to hospital
Driver taken to hospital after BMW ploughs into front of house in Williton

David9694
served-up by Facebook
served-up by Facebook
Parking tickets are a war tactic the state uses to attack the working class.
FROM OAKLAND TO ETHIOPIA:
WE WILL FIGHT BACK! ( + QR code you probably don’t want to scan )

David9694
RNLI vehicle submerged by sea
RNLI vehicle submerged by sea at Hayle Towans beach in Cornwall
Lifeguards gave it their all to get the vehicle to shore
clutch failure, it seems – so no this isn’t a DfL barging his 4×4 onto a beach to launch His brand new jet ski, but the picture below was priceless.
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/rnli-vehicle-submerged-sea-hayle-9398125

David9694
Woolston resident told he can
Woolston resident told he can’t park on his driveway
In June, Ed was sent a letter by roads contractor, Balfour Beatty, stating that he was committing an offence under Section 184 of the Highways Act in gaining access to his property without a properly constructed dropped kerb.
He said he understood and accepted the law – but criticised the company for pursuing this issue considering the state of the roads.
The pensioner said: “As I worked on the highways for 40 years I do understand that by going over a kerb is against the law – so does that mean every driver in the city who parks on the pavement will also be penalised?
“In a city riddled with defects and potholes, it seems Balfour Beatty have time to identify this sort of thing when areas are crying out for repair.
“Surely every driver that parks on a kerb in Southampton can expect the same letter as I received?”
Mr Fisher is now forced to park his car on the road, leaving his driveway empty.
https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24441395.woolston-resident-told-cant-park-driveway/
David9694
Neighbours in Highfield Road,
Neighbours in Highfield Road, Willesborough, frustrated by school-run parking and driving

David9694
I’VE GOT AN IDEA! I’LL LEAVE
I’VE GOT AN IDEA! I’LL LEAVE EARLY TO BEAT THE HOLIDAY TRAFFIC!

David9694
David9694
Also under ‘huge if true” is
Also under ‘huge if true” is the growing story of fake Reform candidates standing in some constituencies. Easily cleared-up, of course.
David9694
chrisonabike wrote:Came here for the cycling, stayed for the politics and history!fair enough, but remember there is a cycling connection with the potential rise of right-wing/ gammon politics, which is the natural home of all things anti-cycling.
Pleased to hear today that France has not succumbed.
David9694
Having a slim minority
Having a slim minority usually means party discipline has to be tight, but a large majority, while a good problem to have, is a lot of people to keep onside over time and keep from getting into/making mischief.
David9694
Huge, if true.
Huge, if true.
Move over Sim City!!

David9694
Refendum result = 52/48% of
Refendum result = 52/48% of voters (NB leavers concentrated at the elderly end) trumpeted as the forever will of the people. Those were the rules of the game so out we came. I might mention the pack of lies Leave told to get us there, but hey.
Fair enough about the toddlers, although it’s their future at stake and they grow up so fast it won’t be that long before they are electors. I guess we’ll never know for sure on the “could have voted, but didn’t”, but it (i) further undermines the “will of the people” argument for a major long-term change and (ii)10 years on seems like a reasonable period for a refo re-run.
People can then go into it eyes open, in the knowledge and lived experience that leaving that leaving the EU has not benefited them in any way. There will still be those who vote stay out because their lives are ruled by spite (see: 5 Reform constituencies).
Labour won 412 of 650 individual local contests – yet you want to claim this somehow isn’t legitimate because you say it wouldn’t have happened under a different set of rules you’ve come up with – change the rules after the game has been played? legitimate indeed.
412 MPs is the only result that matters.
David9694
Gonna repeat myself here –
Gonna repeat myself here – FPTP is the system we use – that is 650 individual contests for each constituency to decide its local MP. Those 650 individual results give rise to party political groupings in Parliament.
If you are adding up all the “lost” votes cast for 2nd / 3rd place / unsuccessful candidates, then you are substituting the results given by the system we use for a completely different set. You try to pass this off as insignificant, but it isn’t.
Under the purest form of PR, the Party List* system, the choice of local representative aspect is largely lost. There are a couple of other variants (Alternative vote, single Transferable Vote) that try to offer a bit of both, but apart from having been rejected in the referendum of 2011, it’s all a bit “add 5 and then divide by the number you originally thought of and then come back next week” complicated. In the mis-trust put about by the Reforms of this world (“take a ball pen”) there is something to be said for a simple, relatively easy to follow system.
I get that FPTP is brutal on most small parties – it usually only helps geographic / nationalist parties in Wales and Scotland, not that either has done especially well this time.
I get that FPTP can do strange things when more than 3 serious candidates stand; I highlighted the example of Wellingborough & Rushden elsewhere in this thread. That point takes me all the way back to the main premise of this thread – disillusioned people kicked the cat by voting Leave, and now they’re even more disillusioned and are lurching towards the chancers of the Reform party.
* Party List – let’s say for simplicity that there are 6,500,000 votes cast in total. Every 10,000 votes your party gets earns you a seat. I guess you devise a way of saying where each party was most prevalent, perhaps using the old constituency boundaries, and the party allocates local representatives according to its judgement.
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