The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    brooksby
    hawkinspeter wrote:
    David9694 wrote:
    flash flooding in Dover hasn’t stopped the traffic wardens wading through. 

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/council-branded-disgusting-as-parking-wardens-target-flood-325784/

    Flooding, especially the domestic kind is no joke, but really Dover, first you vote for Brexit and now climate change denying Reform. 

    My sympathies are with the drivers/parkers for that one. Flooding is an exceptional event, so the wardens should have been cutting them a bit of slack really.

    But reading the article, the bit he was parked in wasn’t flooded.  It was 

    … a safer place, away from the heavily flooded section of East Street, on double-yellow lines outside his home.

    Having had very little sleep after going to bed at 4am, he awoke to find a Dover District Council parking warden had slapped him with a £70 fine.

    So he was – IMO – quite correctly fined for parking on a (not flooded) area of road with double-yellow lines.

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    brooksby
    David9694 wrote:
    Long train journey, so down the rabbit-hole of comments on a police road safety plug I go.  These are the same every bloody time.  I mention it here as the driver views – pitiful as they are – would become more mainstream if Reform make political progress in this country. 

    Imagine being in your 1.5 tonne motorised of metal cage and being scared of pedal cyclists. Imagine saying this on a police SM. 

    Warwickshire police 

    https://www.facebook.com/share/1GjPDaeUko/?mibextid=wwXIfr

    Those FB comments are a bit depressing (but no great surprise…) 

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    David9694
    Hirsute wrote:
    Think you have the wrong thread here !

    Perhaps this is more of a case for Drivers and their Problems. Gonna take a moment to say it again, though, just in case anyone hasn’t worked it out yet: all the oft-repeated stuff “cyclists should be made to wear a helmet”/ have a bell / wear hi viz / ride on the cycle path” etc will become real threats if Reform make progress nationally.  

    Such cycling infrastructure that is built will stop being, they are pledged to remove most 20 mphs and doubtless any other traffic calming or bus priority that is unpopular with (hard-working, etc) drivers.  Police will be encouraged to concentrate on catching “real” criminals and do much less enforcement against innocent motorists who have already been persecuted enough. The list of reasons for drivers to be let off parking fines will no longer be satire. 

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    Hirsute

    Think you have the wrong

    Think you have the wrong thread here !

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    chrisonabike

    David9694 wrote:

    David9694 wrote:
    I guess it’s one to add to the list of why drivers should not be fined:

    With HP, a quantum of sympathy for these folks.  But as you say it’s always “something happened ergo any restrictions on driving / parking should be suspended / not apply to me because x”.

    A little further from the story you can add “how was I supposed to know this car park next to a river might get damp?”  A slightly smaller quantum of sympathy – yes, conditions have changed faster than the built infra.  And though councils almost always put up signs to cover their backsides help people of course “ain’t nobody got time to read them all”.  But everyone knows if you can drive / park there that means that’s what the space is for).

    But now we’re getting into “how was I supposed to know the sea comes in and covers this beach?”

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    David9694
    hawkinspeter wrote:
    David9694 wrote:
    flash flooding in Dover hasn’t stopped the traffic wardens wading through. 

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/council-branded-disgusting-as-parking-wardens-target-flood-325784/

    Flooding, especially the domestic kind is no joke, but really Dover, first you vote for Brexit and now climate change denying Reform. 

    My sympathies are with the drivers/parkers for that one. Flooding is an exceptional event, so the wardens should have been cutting them a bit of slack really.

    I guess it’s one to add to the list of why drivers should not be fined:

    It’s Remembrance Day

    A funeral/ wedding / other church service/ Sunday

    The signs were confusing  

    I don’t think you had to pay on a bank holiday 

    Football match 

    It was only for a minute / I just need to nip in here

    whatever variation of medical episode 

    No-one minds/ it wasn’t in anyone’s way 

    where am I supposed to leave it?

    I’ve always parked here

    why don’t you fuck off and mind your own business 

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    hawkinspeter
    David9694 wrote:
    flash flooding in Dover hasn’t stopped the traffic wardens wading through. 

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/council-branded-disgusting-as-parking-wardens-target-flood-325784/

    Flooding, especially the domestic kind is no joke, but really Dover, first you vote for Brexit and now climate change denying Reform. 

    My sympathies are with the drivers/parkers for that one. Flooding is an exceptional event, so the wardens should have been cutting them a bit of slack really.

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    Hirsute

    Civil enforcement officers
    Civil enforcement officers please!

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    David9694

    flash flooding in Dover hasn

    flash flooding in Dover hasn’t stopped the traffic wardens wading through. 

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/council-branded-disgusting-as-parking-wardens-target-flood-325784/

    Flooding, especially the domestic kind is no joke, but really Dover, first you vote for Brexit and now climate change denying Reform. 

     

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    David9694

    Long train journey, so down

    Long train journey, so down the rabbit-hole of comments on a police road safety plug I go.  These are the same every bloody time.  I mention it here as the driver views – pitiful as they are – would become more mainstream if Reform make political progress in this country. 

    Imagine being in your 1.5 tonne motorised of metal cage and being scared of pedal cyclists. Imagine saying this on a police SM. 

    Warwickshire police 

    https://www.facebook.com/share/1GjPDaeUko/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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    brooksby
    Secret_squirrel wrote:
    brooksby wrote:
    David9694 wrote:
    Guardian: “Sarah Pochin, the new Reform MP for Runcorn and Helsby, had pressed Keir Starmer on the issue in parliament on Wednesday, and Farage had also said on GB News that it was time for a debate about the burqa.”

    Edit- two days later and it’s sounds like he’s been convinced that the face-eating leopards are no longer a threat, and he’s coming back to the Reform fold. 

    This debacle did goad Badenoch into giving an interview where she said she wouldn’t speak to any constituents who turned up wearing a burqa…

    Seen on SoMe so not sure if its true but some wag did point out that Bad Enoch hasnt held a constituency surgery for anyone in 4 years….

    I read it here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/08/kemi-badenoch-women-burqas-constituency-surgery

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    Secret_squirrel
    brooksby wrote:
    David9694 wrote:
    Guardian: “Sarah Pochin, the new Reform MP for Runcorn and Helsby, had pressed Keir Starmer on the issue in parliament on Wednesday, and Farage had also said on GB News that it was time for a debate about the burqa.”

    Edit- two days later and it’s sounds like he’s been convinced that the face-eating leopards are no longer a threat, and he’s coming back to the Reform fold. 

    This debacle did goad Badenoch into giving an interview where she said she wouldn’t speak to any constituents who turned up wearing a burqa…

    Seen on SoMe so not sure if its true but some wag did point out that Bad Enoch hasnt held a constituency surgery for anyone in 4 years….

     

    #1154289
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    brooksby
    David9694 wrote:
    Guardian: “Sarah Pochin, the new Reform MP for Runcorn and Helsby, had pressed Keir Starmer on the issue in parliament on Wednesday, and Farage had also said on GB News that it was time for a debate about the burqa.”

    Edit- two days later and it’s sounds like he’s been convinced that the face-eating leopards are no longer a threat, and he’s coming back to the Reform fold. 

    This debacle did goad Badenoch into giving an interview where she said she wouldn’t speak to any constituents who turned up wearing a burqa…

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    David9694

    Farage’s Teflon handling of

    Farage’s Teflon handling of this has been deft: preside over a party full of people with some pretty odd views and then act all suprised when one of the leading lights stirs things up on the racism front.

    Guardian: “Sarah Pochin, the new Reform MP for Runcorn and Helsby, had pressed Keir Starmer on the issue in parliament on Wednesday, and Farage had also said on GB News that it was time for a debate about the burqa.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jun/05/zia-yusuf-quits-as-chair-of-reform-uk-after-new-mp-burqa-ban-row

    Reform MP who backed burqa ban in hot water over mug showing Starmer in hijab – as row rumbles on (LBC have also got the photo of the mug)

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/politics/uk-politics/reform-nigel-farage-burqa-starmer/

    Edit- two days later and it’s sounds like he’s been convinced that the face-eating leopards are no longer a threat, and he’s coming back to the Reform fold. 

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    David9694

    Gay council officer speaks

    Gay council officer speaks out after change of Pride flag policy in North Northamptonshire

    “Taking away any visual support for minorities who have to face physical and verbal violence because they exist, whilst not filling that void with another type of commitment, leaves those within these communities to wonder whether they still have the support of those in charge.

    “Finally, I say this directly to the executive – you knew what to expect when this decision was made. You knew the reaction it would get.”

    https://www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/people/gay-council-officer-speaks-out-after-change-of-pride-flag-policy-in-north-northamptonshire-5163674

    Road addict, if you’re still reading, I’m more than happy to explain the parallel with cycling. 

     

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