[hawkinspeter]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/through-traffic-banned-parts-bristol-8295492

This should be introduced towards the end of this year as an experimental trial – I wish it could happen sooner as it covers where I live. We had questionnaires about it during lockdown, though I think that was just about making Beaufort Rd (by the cemetery) one way to motorised traffic.

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[hawkinspeter]

wtjs wrote:

Good link- usual Bingo comments with malevolent thicko NIMBYs pretending to care about the disadvantaged, disabled etc. On the same page is the enlightening “Man dies after being found seriously injured in Bristol“- this is about 99% probability a hit-an-run, but the death is described by the police as ‘not being suspicious’. This roughly translates as ‘somebody driving a vehicle has killed somebody else, but that’s not deemed to be as serious as somebody not driving a vehicle killing somebody else. The police statement wording implies that their ‘investigative enquiries’ were completed by about 5:50am- I hope this is not true.

To be fair, the anti-EBLN petition was started by Melissa Topping who is a disabled resident of Victoria Avenue (I haven’t seen if they’ve done any changes to that, but it already had traffic calming bumps).

[wtjs]

Good link- usual Bingo

Good link- usual Bingo comments with malevolent thicko NIMBYs pretending to care about the disadvantaged, disabled etc. On the same page is the enlightening “Man dies after being found seriously injured in Bristol“- this is about 99% probability a hit-an-run, but the death is described by the police as ‘not being suspicious’. This roughly translates as ‘somebody driving a vehicle has killed somebody else, but that’s not deemed to be as serious as somebody not driving a vehicle killing somebody else. The police statement wording implies that their ‘investigative enquiries’ were completed by about 5:50am- I hope this is not true.

[slc]

Good URL though

Good URL though 🙂

[brooksby]

quiff wrote:

Looks like the school is split site, and it’s the other part of the site on Mogg St that’s getting a school street: https://travelwest.info/projects/bristol-school-streets-st-werburghs-primary-school/

Thanks for this.  Mogg Street is often used as a rat-run by motorists (and cyclists, to be fair) who want to avoid the Mina Road mini-roundabout, so this will be interesting… 

[hawkinspeter]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/news-opinion/thousands-sign-petition-entitled-motorists-9784209

Not much of note – seems to be a selection of comments for and against

[hawkinspeter]

chrisonabike wrote:

Look how permeable this area is to motor traffic (even with lots of fairly “narrow streets”)!

And the entry from the massive busy urban motorway onto Mina road is nuts!  Talk about a hopeful “drop anchors” (there’s also a really skinny cycle path emerging from the left here too).

Yeah, that Mina Rd junction is fun. It’s worse coming down Mina Road and trying to join the cycle path (to get across the M32 roundabout underpass which is a muggers’ paradise due to all the blind corners). You have to get over to the right hand side of the road whilst avoiding traffic coming from the M32 as well. The traffic isn’t usually moving fast though as they’ve just negotiated the roundabout and Mina Road has a 20mph limit.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Le79YvW2KYyQC8d86

I quite often go that route to one friend’s house and the roundabout subway is one of the few places where using a bell (or calling out “ding ding”) is handy due to the the blind corners and oncoming cyclists/scooterists. There’s also times when the underpass gets flooded

[quiff]

Perhaps the speed

Perhaps the speed differential not quite as bad as it looks though – the section of M32 (Maja Rd?) before and after the Mina Rd turn-off has a 40mph limit anyway.

[chrisonabike]

Look how permeable this area

Look how permeable this area is to motor traffic (even with lots of fairly “narrow streets”)!

And the entry from the massive busy urban motorway onto Mina road is nuts!  Talk about a hopeful “drop anchors” (there’s also a really skinny cycle path emerging from the left here too).

[quiff]

Looks like the school is

Looks like the school is split site, and it’s the other part of the site on Mogg St that’s getting a school street: https://travelwest.info/projects/bristol-school-streets-st-werburghs-primary-school/

[slc]

Warminster Road? There is a

Warminster Road? There is a gate at the NW end that opens onto the playground

[brooksby]

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

How is St Werburghs going to have a school street outside it?  The road outside it is the main road – other than the motorway – to get out of the city centre to points north (St Werburghs, Eastgate, Eastville, etc).

Maybe they’ll prevent traffic on Glenfrome Rd at drop-off and pick-up times. Apart from the M32, it does seem to be the only road that goes in that direction.

I think it’s a good idea – the motorway is there, after all! – but it’ll be hilarious reading comments BTL in the Post 

[hawkinspeter]

brooksby wrote:

How is St Werburghs going to have a school street outside it?  The road outside it is the main road – other than the motorway – to get out of the city centre to points north (St Werburghs, Eastgate, Eastville, etc).

Maybe they’ll prevent traffic on Glenfrome Rd at drop-off and pick-up times. Apart from the M32, it does seem to be the only road that goes in that direction.

[slc]

Maybe they are waiting on

Maybe they are waiting on their bikes at a red light while wearing an orange jacket and a helmet. 

[brooksby]

How is St Werburghs going to

How is St Werburghs going to have a school street outside it?  The road outside it is the main road – other than the motorway – to get out of the city centre to points north (St Werburghs, Eastgate, Eastville, etc).

[hawkinspeter]

chrisonabike wrote:

All good – it’s stuff like this which ought to be “just do it already” and which should be “quick wins” (because has zero effect on motor traffic when it’s not vital).  As we’ve seen even “slam dunk” stuff like this can become a battle though!

Also perhaps “nothing to see here” but to my eye curious language: “… temporary barriers” but ” … The permanent schemes encourage …” – suggesting that maybe even temporary barriers erected for a short period twice a day might be seen as a big change and subject to being removed if “it causes congestion” etc.

I’m actually wary of changes that have little impact – because these tend to be “window dressing” set out so we can say we have one thing when in fact the status quo is unchallenged.

Example: my building is actually on a signed “home zone”.  It’s a cul-de-sac leading to a car park – street goes nowhere else.  Some “engineering” has been done – the street is signed 20mph and it narrows to a single lane in several places, plus the required double-yellows and signs are everywhere.  But the home zone sign means nothing legally and of course people carry on as normal, paying little attention to parking restrictions or speed limits.

I’ve not seen children playing in the street.

Ninja children

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