[hawkinspeter]

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/through-traffic-banned-parts-bristol-8295492

This should be introduced towards the end of this year as an experimental trial – I wish it could happen sooner as it covers where I live. We had questionnaires about it during lockdown, though I think that was just about making Beaufort Rd (by the cemetery) one way to motorised traffic.

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[slc]

hawkinspeter wrote:

Incidentally, I got a letter through my door today about the scheme starting up (from BCC).

 

I am just waiting for my LTN bingo card. Bristol Post seem to be road.cc readers too and have adopted the ‘summarize comments on an earlier article’ article. 

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/news-opinion/readers-react-bristol-low-traffic-9655725

 

[hawkinspeter]

slc wrote:

[quote=slc]I’m not brave enough to go through at more than jogging pace… A couple of weeks ago someone added signs saying ‘cyclists be aware high speed traffic ahead slow down’, with a ‘no cycling’ graphic (not the correct graphic, something like a ‘no smoking sign, red slash through a bicycle). I was annoyed enough to photograph it for fixmystreet, and had a result. Exciting, huh? https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/6577120%5B/quote%5D

I saw those signs and briefly wondered whether they should be vandalised. Good luck getting high speed traffic along there that’s not a bike.

Incidentally, I got a letter through my door today about the scheme starting up (from BCC).

[slc]

I’m not brave enough to go
I’m not brave enough to go through at more than jogging pace…

A couple of weeks ago someone added signs saying ‘cyclists be aware high speed traffic ahead slow down’, with a ‘no cycling’ graphic (not the correct graphic, something like a ‘no smoking sign, red slash through a bicycle). I was annoyed enough to photograph it for fixmystreet, and had a result. Exciting, huh?

https://www.fixmystreet.com/report/6577120

[hawkinspeter]

slc wrote:

I use the same road every day. My usual experience is drivers failing to give way through the chicanes (I guess you have to pay road tax for priority to apply), but that route to the station also demonstrates the effectiveness of modal filters – imagine the ratrunning  if drivers could make it through Queen Ann road to the station.  

I got a taxi driver into trouble once with A&S police by submitting a video of them racing through the traffic calming.

Queen Ann Road is a bit of a mess at the moment what with the building work going on. I used to go fairly fast through the tunnel, but now you can’t tell if you’re going to be running into the back of a lorry.

[slc]

I use the same road every day

I use the same road every day. My usual experience is drivers failing to give way through the chicanes (I guess you have to pay road tax for priority to apply), but that route to the station also demonstrates the effectiveness of modal filters – imagine the ratrunning  if drivers could make it through Queen Ann road to the station.  

[hawkinspeter]

slc wrote:

slc wrote:

I live here too. The consultations in lockdown were indeed about the whole scheme – the Beaufort Road one way was part of an earlier proposal that was shelved following opposition from motorists arguing for their right to ratrun. I think the part to watch will be Avonvale road (western half of the scheme). The scope of the change here is much larger than around Beaufort Rf, and will depend largely on bus gates rather than modal filters. We have seen in Exeter that motorists will ignore these without enforcement.

Avonvale Road is on my route to the station and it’s certainly problematic with traffic. The number of times I see a bus being blocked in by queued traffic the other side of the traffic calming measures.

[slc]

I live here too.
I live here too.

The consultations in lockdown were indeed about the whole scheme – the Beaufort Road one way was part of an earlier proposal that was shelved following opposition from motorists arguing for their right to ratrun.

I think the part to watch will be Avonvale road (western half of the scheme). The scope of the change here is much larger than around Beaufort Rf, and will depend largely on bus gates rather than modal filters. We have seen in Exeter that motorists will ignore these without enforcement.

[hawkinspeter]

Finally, it looks like we

Finally, it looks like we might get a planter or two after months/years of waiting.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/work-start-installing-traffic-restrictions-9650063

But after facing months of delays, the roll out of traffic restricting measures – including planters, pocket parks and new bus gates across Barton Hill, Redfield and St George – will begin next Monday (October 28). Work will be carried out in five stages between the end of October and January 2025.

Phase 1 – St George including Wicket Lane, Beaufort Road, Blackswarth Road, Glebe Road and The Avenue – from October 28 to November 6

Phase 2 – Redfield including Avonvale Road, Pilemarsh, Marsh Lane, Barnes Street, Victoria Avenue and Byron Street – from November 11 to November 29

Phase 3 – Barton Hill including Kingsmarsh Way and Lincoln Street – from December 2 to December 9

Phase 4 – Barton Hill and Redfield including Lancaster Street and Cobden Street – from December 10 to 13

Phase 5 – Barton Hill and Redfield including Grindell Road, Barton Hill Road/Ducie Road and Ducie Road bridge – from December 16 to January 10

[Bmblbzzz]

Yes, but they were introduced

Yes, but they were introduced by Ferguson – and halting their spread was part of Rees’s manifesto back in 2016. I was expressing surprise at Rees departing from what seems to be his normal pro-motoring stance.

[hawkinspeter]

Bmblbzzz wrote:

I was quite surprised to see this. What next, RPZs and 20mph limits? But in a way it makes sense that it’s in this bit of St George, given that it’s a district with lots of through traffic, a fairly easily drawable boundary, and that Rees probably sees it as a way to stave off the eastward march of the Greens.

We’ve already got the 20mph limits

[Bmblbzzz]

I was quite surprised to see

I was quite surprised to see this. What next, RPZs and 20mph limits? But in a way it makes sense that it’s in this bit of St George, given that it’s a district with lots of through traffic, a fairly easily drawable boundary, and that Rees probably sees it as a way to stave off the eastward march of the Greens.

[chrisonabike]

The detail is all important

The detail is all important of course – because *someone* won’t be able to go as directly to somewhere as they once did; that’s the point.  When people complain about this sort of thing most seem to be issues about exactly where the border is drawn.  So “but my kid’s school used to be 400 metres away but now it’s 3 miles’ drive!” (Leaving aside the “yes – and you could always walk / cycle…”)

However it looks pretty good in outline!

[hawkinspeter]

There’s enough complaints

There’s enough complaints about Bristol traffic anyway, so a few more complaints won’t matter.

I think they’re trying to prevent the traffic trying to by-pass Church Rd (A420) which runs on the very top edge of the area, but isn’t included. Would be fun if it was as it’s the main route from East Bristol to the centre.

[peted76]

What an interesting idea.. I

What an interesting idea.. I kind of love it, might it be a bit like a ‘light’ version of a 15min city.. a five minute suburb ?

Oh.. but you do have my advanced sympathies,,, for all of the moaning you are about to bear witness to, the CAVE dwellers, the NIMBYS, the Karens and Kevs will have a field day on this!

 

[jaymack]

And I hope that the scheme
And I hope that the scheme proves to be both a success and a role model for the future.

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