The Reform Party and the UK’s lurch towards fascism

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    David9694

    I posted an earlier version of this a while back – inspired to do update following THAT discussion about all things ULEZ. 

    The “manifesto”, in terms of transport, only mentions stopping HS2, but there’s plenty on the usual right-wing obsessions: Brexit, immigration, veterans and climate change.  I had another look because I worry about the ongoing decline of the two main political parties. 

    If the Cons stay wedded to Brexit, then we will go into the next GE with all the widespread impoverishment Brexit has ushered in – not helped by Covid, Putin, etc. People generally vote according to their pockets.  I don’t get Labour’s current position on Europe either, but let’s see how that evolves, and even the Cons may also evolve, or even pivot, but time is already running out for them.

    Several roads now lead to the horrors of a further lurch to the right in this country.  Let’s hope Labour get the GE landslide the polls are predicting – but we’re still at least a year out from the real campaigning beginning. 

    A cycling angle? With the Reform Party and its ilk, Facebook Steve and Nextdoor Dave attain real political influence. It’s not spelt out in the manifesto, but you can see where this is probably heading and what it is likely to mean for cycling.  You can bet that this lot are very much “on the side of hard working drivers” etc. 

    As you all know, Dave’s going to “sort the traffic” and no doubt show them lazy planners how it’s done: Steve thinks the Council are corrupt, the police blinkered and is, if he can fit it in to his busy schedule he’s going to “teach them Lycra’s a thing or two.” It won’t concern him that his Mondeo is 3 months out of MoT or that Mrs Steve sometimes drives the kids in it uninsured. 

    As vulnerable road users, vulnerable people, we rely a great deal on the rule of law for protection. The rule of law means that we understand what the laws are, they are in general fair, and how they are applied and to whom is even-handed and consistent. 

    The fascist position is broadly the opposite – it’s all off-the-cuff to support today’s particular agenda – that’s why the Iain Duncan-Smith “happy to see ULEZ infra vandalised” comment is, as an example, so very worrying.  In the Conservatives, here is a party happy to send signals to enable the mob to attack RNLI stations, beat up immigrants, shout at teachers, doctors etc. 

    This right-wing stuff works by allowing/enabling significant privileged groups to to think of themselves as the downtrodden underdog and here is a way to fight back.  The pro Brexit campaign played on people’s ignorance, fears and prejudices exactly as this does. 

    It’s all about freedom, innit, less regulation, less tax burden, and damn the climate.  There’s more polar bears now, so it’s fine.  Let’s have open-cast coal mining, lithium mining and fracking. The section on climate change stumbles around like a Friday night drunk, trying to explain he wasn’t being racist to the barman – a denier position emerges, unsurprisingly.

    In places, the mask really slips: “We must keep divisive woke ideologies such as Critical Race Theory (CRT) and gender ideology out of the classroom.” – to be honest, I don’t even know what those two are.

    The standard enemies are put up – the civil service, the BBC.  Amid all the thrust and parry, there’s nothing  about making a better, more inclusive and cohesive world to live in; arts, sports and culture don’t feature in this barstool view of the world: a dullard’s grim vision.

    Don’t be a member of the wrong sort of minority would be my advice, should any of this come to pass. 
     

    https://www.reformparty.uk/reformisessential

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    Hirsute

    The thing is, no council (ok

    The thing is, no council (ok there might be one) has an inhouse highways operational team whose job it is to fix roads and maintain them. It’s all out sourced to private companies (thanks to Thatcher).

    What is required is signing off the works and getting the companies to do the job properly where the reinstatement or work is not up to standard.

    #1153353
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    David9694
    Hirsute wrote:
    What Yusuf said was Reform would send “teams” into councils, adding: “We’ll be opening up application shortly. We want the brightest and the best. “If you’ve got experience in audit, if you’ve got experience in fixing potholes, if you’re a software engineer.

    “We’re going to bring taskforces in. We’re now going to have access to the contract, access to the numbers, access to payroll, and we’re going to make these changes.”

    All a bit nonsensical and a number of legal hurdles to clear to bring in unknowns and unqualifieds.

    Ah, the talented disrupter who, for some mysterious reason, is in need of a job.  But I’m forgetting that we don’t like experts, at least the experts that actually have experience of doing things like pot-holes. No doubt somewhere we’ll waste £1m on acquiring the Potholebegone or potholes2U system that everyone who knows anything knows is a con. 

    Hey look I get it, there are variations in attitudes to what constitutes busy and productive in individuals and in teams. The Communications Director who doesn’t want to manage the media, the doctor who doesn’t want see patients, the Secretary who is overwhelmed by having one letter to do and takes all afternoon about it, the coffee bar person who take the customer’s money, but stands looking blank while others run around getting the orders.  I’ve seen all that in both public and private sector. 

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    Hirsute

    What Yusuf said was

    What Yusuf said was

    He said Reform would send “teams” into councils, adding: “We’ll be opening up application shortly. We want the brightest and the best. “If you’ve got experience in audit, if you’ve got experience in fixing potholes, if you’re a software engineer.

    “We’re going to bring taskforces in. We’re now going to have access to the contract, access to the numbers, access to payroll, and we’re going to make these changes.”

    All a bit nonsensical and a number of legal hurdles to clear to bring in unknowns and unqualifieds.

    Obviously clueless that software is already purchased from vendors and there is little in house software.
    Experience in audit is looking at whether the accounts are ‘true and fair’, the systems in place, objectives, whether processes meet objectives, the controls in place over processes, segregation of duties.

    Audit are not going to be able to say “well, you have 50 FTE lawyers but we think you can do it with 40” because they do not know anything about being lawyer.

    It’s all smoke and mirrors. It would be funny if they came back and said “you need more people because there is insufficient segregation of duties and you are at risk of fraud.”

     

    As to “we have absolute, ultimate control”.

    Why haven’t you fixed the potholes then? Why is there so much congestion in our towns? Why can’t my mother get the social care she needs ?

    #1153343
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    David9694

    Linden Kemkaran voted in as

    Linden Kemkaran voted in as Reform UK’s new leader of Kent County Council

    She beat a field of six candidates at Maidstone’s County Hall

    ‘Straight-talking’ Mrs Kemkaran…”This is my first day in a brand new job and you wouldn’t expect me to have all the answers. We are going to get the auditors to come in and take a leaf out of Elon Musk’s book and appoint some sort of DOGE”

    “we won a massive majority and we have absolute, ultimate control.” The new leader vowed to remove the Ukraine flag from the chamber, open the council’s books to auditors [newsflash – they already are and there’s usually a value for money audit] and review working practices across the authority.

    Although members were forbidden from speaking to the Press, one councillor said: “She’s definitely the best person for the job and she was the best of a pretty strong field of candidates. She was the best choice.”

    https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/linden-kemkaran-voted-reform-uks-10169346?int_source=nba

    If you’re an equalities, Green/conservation person at KCC, it may be time to look for a new job, I’m afraid, communications would become pretty intolerable I’d have thought. Those are the roles the so-called Taxpayers Alliance have gone after for years.

    Nice vote for freedom of speech casually tossed in there. Great reference to Nazi salute guy too. 

    Well, you’ve got the Captain’s armband now, no more easy pickings yah-booing from the sidelines. 

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    David9694

    Ah, flags.  Reform policy

    Ah, flags.  Reform policy-making in microcosm for you here.  Now imagine them handling an actual real issue. The kicker is in the last paragraph below – the supposedly local campaigns manager is still parroting the (revised) national line about the Cornwall flag, despite it being pretty clear that it’s not going to play in this locality. 

    So Cornwall County Council is now no overall control. Of 87 seats, Reform are the largest party (28), the Lib Dems (26), Conservatives (7) having lost 40 seats. 

    Reform have made a big play that in England only the Union Flag and the St George’s Cross will be flown at council buildings. People like to fly the Cornwall (St Piran’s) flag at County Hall, Truro – so the question arose, and here’s Reform’s initial answer (emphasis added): 

     “Reform UK councils will only fly the Union Jack, St George’s flag and county flags. We are proud of our country and history. Labour and the Tories want to stop this.”

    ‘No sale’ say the Cornwall Lib Dem’s, “They have now added that they would also allow county flags to fly. I’d best not mention that the St Piran’s flag is the Cornish national emblem and not a county flag.”

    The article continues: We asked Reform’s campaign manager in Cornwall Andrea Lovett for a comment on the flags issue. (Get ready for the revised, revised position…) She said: “I can confirm the Lib Dems are whipping up total twaddle. We’ve been clear. We will allow the Union Flag, St George’s Cross and county flags to fly at County Hall, as well as common sense exceptions during occasions such as Armed Forces or royal visits.”

    https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/reform-responds-concerns-future-cornish-10165266?int_source=nba

    Reform doesn’t want ‘plethora of flags’ on council buildings

    https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/25142010.reform-doesnt-want-plethora-flags-council-buildings/

    Edit/update 

    It sounds like it’s not yet settled as to who is going to form an administration at CCC.  In addition to the Lib Dems and Reform, there are 16 Independents and a handful of Labour, Green and Mebyon Kernow.  The Lib Dems would need all of them, plus at least half the Independents (we may be about to find out what that label really means) to form a majority administration.  It’s unclear exactly which was the Cons are going to jump, but they’re saying they won’t form part of an administration. 
     

    Anyway, ha, ha, ha, ha – Reform – always the victim, eh? And welcome to the real world, where you actually have to get along with people* to get stuff done. An inauspicious start on the flags front.  

    * including yourselves – 28 Reform councillors will no doubt be fighting like rats in a sack before long, being a symptom of you not actually standing for any particular unifying principle. 

    Reform UK accuses rivals of coalition to block Cornwall Council control

    The party has slammed moves by other political groups to stop it taking control of Cornwall Council

    https://www.cornish-times.co.uk/news/reform-uk-accuses-rivals-of-coalition-to-block-cornwall-council-control-790839

    Finally for now, I wonder where we’d stand flags wise on the town twinning front – like when the folk from Brittany visit: 

    Truro re-signs twinning deal with French town
    A twinning partnership between Truro and a French town has been re-signed to mark its 45th anniversary.

    Officials from Truro and Morlaix in Britanny met in the Cornish city for a special ceremony on the anniversary of the original partnership signed in 1979.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgeyy0vpv1eo

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    David9694
    mdavidford wrote:
    D. We’ve just elected a bunch of fruit( short)cakes to the council – why do they need more?

    1A You receive a question at party company conference pointing out that 4,000 of the UK biscuit makers are in fact engaged in making Bourbons and Garabaldis and that all sounds a bit forrin, dunnit. 

    In the free text box below, formulate your response (max 200 words) :

    #1153303
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    chrisonabike
    mdavidford wrote:
    D. We’ve just elected a bunch of fruit( short)cakes to the council – why do they need more?

    Hopefully you picked the ones with a blue ribband?

    #1153301
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    David9694

    Hopefully, that’s the last of

    Hopefully, that’s the last of the biscuit puns, I’ve had a think and concluded that there are Nairn left.

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    mdavidford
    chrisonabike wrote:
    Hirsute wrote:
    I think you’ll find it is spending on biscuits.

    We should cut all spending on “healthy” vegan low-fat low sugar buscuits!  There’s no such thing as an obesity crisis – it’s fake news, designed to allow the rich tea set to make more gold bars and take taxis to hobnob at conferences. We need a time out – we should be taking control of our Borders!  We’ve reached peek Frean!

    Nice!

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    chrisonabike

    Hirsute wrote:

    Hirsute wrote:
    I think you’ll find it is spending on biscuits.

    We should cut all spending on “healthy” vegan low-fat low sugar buscuits!  There’s no such thing as an obesity crisis – it’s fake news, designed to allow the rich tea set to make more gold bars and take taxis to hobnob at conferences. We need a time out – we should be taking control of our Borders!  We’ve reached peek Frean!

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    mdavidford

    D. We’ve just elected a bunch

    D. We’ve just elected a bunch of fruit( short)cakes to the council – why do they need more?

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    David9694

    Hirsute wrote:

    Hirsute wrote:
    I think you’ll find it is spending on biscuits.

    welcome to the political bandwagon selection app. In a moment, we will present you with a choice of bandwagons to jump on – please note this is a timed test, you only have 10 seconds to choose A B or C. When you’re ready, click CONTINUE to proceed.

    Q.1 Biscuits. The UK biscuit industry employs 5,000 people. It is estimated that government departments and local authorities spend £gazillion on buying biscuits. 

    A. Save the Great British Biscuit! https://blightys.com/collections/biscuits Oh, go on then!

    B. No more biscuits for public sector workers ever

    C. Unless they’re Duchy of Cornwall biscuits (especially when said Duke of Cornwall is in town)

    https://www.waitrose.com/ecom/shop/browse/groceries/organic_shop/duchy_organic/food_cupboard/biscuits

    https://www.fortnumandmason.com/county-biscuit-selection-tin-385g?gQT=1

     

    #1153273
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    David9694

    First up for a new name, the

    First up for a new name, the Irish Sea. The Celtic Sea will presumably become the Rangers Sea? 

    As I remarked elsewhere, I think we’re going to be hearing more about ‘common sense’ from Reform. It means whatever I want it to mean.  

    Flags, while they do have their complexities and peculiarities, are a comparatively simple thing to get right. However, if your approach is to make your uninformed off the cuff pronouncement first and then revise it as you go along as actual facts and local concerns present themselves, this will be how issues that might actually affect people’s lives will play out in say Lincolnshire and Staffordshire. 

    Home

    https://www.flaginstitute.org/pdfs/Phil%20Rendle.pdf (the sketchy ancient origins story of the Cornwall flag.)

    PS I enjoyed this webpage – we’re in Two Ronnies “Manchester will be renamed Personchester” territory: https://ukma.org.uk/why-metric/myths/british-metrication/

    1976 apparently – political correctness gorn mad, it is.  

    #1153277
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    Hirsute

    I think you’ll find it is
    I think you’ll find it is spending on biscuits.

    #1153275
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    mdavidford
    David9694 wrote:
    Flags, while they do have their complexities and peculiarities, are a comparatively simple thing to get right.

    I don’t know about that – they’re often a vex(illat)ed subject.

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