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March 19, 2014 at 9:48 am #20981
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What’s going on here then?<http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17546_9221191,00.html>
Is this a pre-emptive measure to avoid a repeat the JTL situation?
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There’ll be a nutjob with a
There’ll be a nutjob with a conspiracy theory put forward in a minute suggesting that Brailsford quit ‘cos he knows there’s a positive test in the pipeline and he wants to distance the entities of Team Sky and GB cycling from each other and himself too.Oh, hang on….. 😉
chiv30
He doped sky caught him and
He doped sky caught him and don’t want to be associated with doping hence the suspension and the “altitude testing”Anyone on these forums that believe doping has vanished in cycling needs to get their head out the sand , I’d like to believe ppl ride clean but as in other sports cyclists will use whatever they can to get an edge , some on UCI legal substances others on banned substances ….the risks are always going to be worth the rewards it’s that simple
mooleur
As if you mentalists just
As if you mentalists just woke this thread up… :”(daddyELVIS
edster99 wrote:About as
edster99 wrote:About as serious as you are that Tony Martin could ever win the TdF. (Unless of course they remove the mountain stages 8| )Exactly =D>
edster99
About as serious as you are
About as serious as you are that Tony Martin could ever win the TdF. (Unless of course they remove the mountain stages 8| )edster99 wrote:Id be
edster99 wrote:Id be interested to know how you come to the conclusion that Martin is twice the rider Wiggins is? Based on ?
Are you serious?daddyELVIS wrote:bashthebox
daddyELVIS wrote:bashthebox wrote:Great evidence gathering there, bro. You should get a job on CSI.
I’ll believe Wiggins is a credible TdF champion when Tony Martin (who is twice the rider Wiggins is) wins it!Id be interested to know how you come to the conclusion that Martin is twice the rider Wiggins is? Based on ?
There’s been questions about him in the past too :
bashthebox wrote:Great
bashthebox wrote:Great evidence gathering there, bro. You should get a job on CSI.
I’ll believe Wiggins is a credible TdF champion when Tony Martin (who is twice the rider Wiggins is) wins it!bashthebox
Great evidence gathering
Great evidence gathering there, bro. You should get a job on CSI.The margins between winning
The margins between winning and losing at the very top of professional sport are so small that athletes, their coaches (and by association their agents and sponsors) will explore every available ‘marginal gain’ to be the best that they can.So to think that doping in cycling (where the rewards for success are higher than they’ve ever been) is now pursued by a few failures at the back of the peloton is very naïve.
Sky said that the Henao testing / research / whatever PR spin they’ve put on it, process would take around 8 weeks, after which they would issue a full report. So, we should hear something in May.
However, Sky have (plenty) previous when it comes to bullsh*t.
The only evidence I need when it comes to Sky are the names of the last 2 TdF champions, their dominance of the key races leading up to these Tours, and the nature of these wins.
Sky are no worse than any other top team, but I can’t stand their ‘holier than thou’ bullsh*t PR.
Colin Peyresourde
I don’t know where people get
I don’t know where people get these things – ex-pro? Good post Super Domestique – you are right. I have noticed a change in the way comment is received now.I don’t care about Sky anymore than I do Lampre or IAM racing. I do care about doping and I don’t think it will ever go to bed. I’ve read up about the subject (and not just cycling related).
The authorities on the matter (which I do not claim to be, but I certainly have more knowledge than your joe off the street) know that doping is a constant in sport. It hasn’t just gone away. The evidence is that it goes on a little, but often. If this is true, and I see dirty Berti won the Tour of the Basque Country this weekend, then the people to suspect will not be your lantern rouge, they will be bubbling around in the higher orders, because doping has to be worth something to do it. Or at least those with most to gain from doping will be those that make it count.
I think some people have taken my comments to be an attack on cycling, but actually those in the know are aware that it is every where. Even at the Winter Olympics there was talk of using Xenon gas to boost RBC.
If I bash Sky, I bash everyone. I can still enjoy the sport, but I can also be sceptical. Some who know me may remember that I vociferously denounced Horner. Some people believe that he is innocent, but given his biggest and most astounding win he has kept a low profile in the sport and advisably so. I don’t think cycling really needed him to highlight that doping was still a factor….anyway moving on.
Super Domestique
notfastenough wrote:is this
notfastenough wrote:is this thread still running?
.Yep! (although I’ve just now added to it lol)
Sadly I remember this site as a far more interesting and pleasant place. You might recall the likes of Trikeman, Andylul, Chris (from Dubai iirc) and others too. Genuine good advice, friendly banter, race coverage and discussion.
Now it’s all doom and gloom stories of commuting misery or arguing over team Sky.
Ironically, the venom was out for Froome and the arguements during last years TdF were constant. Yet when Mr Horner turned on a performance in the Vuelta that could have raised eyebrows, hardly a word was said. In fact I had not seen much mentioned of it till this thread. (although it wasn’t as shocking as that rider – his name escapes – in the Tour of Turkey a couple of years back!)
But I think that is why either Sky fans or those wanting fair comment get annoyed.There are some who only post when it involves Sky bashing.
This isn’t a dig directly at you Colin, although one such Sky basher did state (during the Froome TdF battle ground) that we should all listen to you as you were an ex-pro, former top rider and voice of experience. Are you?To me, imho, Sky have 2 cases recently that could go either way. JTL and Sergio. If Sky are what they say (and you know what, I’d like to believe they are, along with certain other teams) and it’s either a Pre-Sky issue or something that a rider has done off their own back, then flagging it up / acting on it / cooperating is the right thing to do.
However, IF it is that Sky are dodgy, then BANG the bubble bursts in Lance stylee! No amount of slick PR could mop that mess up and there will probably be some mass UK cycling burning of Sky jerseys or something! (although I’m not going to be melting down the Pina!)
Time will tell. The truth has a habit of rising to the surface, ask LA.
I know this has been a long post, but maybe it will be good to reflect on how this forum and site used to be.
Yes, debate is normal. Opinions are the life blood of forums. But the direction it’s heading now will put people off joining up, joining in or even riding at this rate!
But let’s get back to the banter, the advice and enjoyment of cycling.
Happy cycling!
Who’s the fanboy?
I’ve seen
Who’s the fanboy?I’ve seen none comment so far.
northstar
pwake wrote:Well, we learnt
pwake wrote:Well, we learnt one thing from this thread; Mr Peyresourde found out that you can like your own posts on here.What we’ve found out here is sky fan boys can’t handle the truth : )
notfastenough
md6 wrote:Maybe you once
md6 wrote:Maybe you once believed and feel wronged, who was it who hurt you so, Colin? Who?Oh my, I’ve got it! Colin Peyresoude is an anagram of…. Paul Kimmage!*
*This bit may not be entirely true.
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