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“To serve and protect?” Group of cyclists “buzzed” by police car driver at 78mph in 40mph zone – as chief “pissed off” at officer’s overtake… and motorists complain about cyclists not riding single file; Tour de France hits the Mûr + more on the live blog

If you thought the Tour de France peloton was looking tired on the hills of Normandy yesterday, that’s nothing compared to Adwitiya and Ryan, as they pin on one last live blog number before the desperate sprint to the weekend…

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11 July 2025, 08:53
Police car driver passes group of cyclists at 78mph in 40mph zone
“To serve and protect?” Group of cyclists “buzzed” by police car driver at 78mph in 40mph zone – as chief “pissed off” at officer’s overtake… and motorists complain about cyclists not riding single file and in “middle of the road”

‘To protect and to serve’, first adopted by the LAPD back in the 1960s, may since have become the motto of police forces across the United States and Canada.

But for one batch of American cyclists this week, it could well be changed to ‘overtake and scare’ – after they were “buzzed” by a police officer travelling at 38mph over the speed limit earlier this week.

“Passed on a recent small group ride by the local police going 78mph in a 40mph zone,” Reddit user 3robbio posted on the social media platform this week, before sharing footage of the officer’s unnervingly fast overtake, the speed of which was captured by the cyclist’s rear radar camera on his Garmin.

“Another rider in the group reported with the video to the police chief, who he said was pissed off and angered by the poor actions of his staff. Hopefully will see some improvements in the future (if only short lived).”

However, while the police chief was frustrated by his officer’s overtaking skills, some Reddit users – inevitably – tried to pin the blame on the cyclists… for, you guessed it, riding two abreast.

“Taking up an entire lane. Vehicle is literally as far as they can get from you. Completely douche behaviour,” one commenter said.

“Why are all of you guys in the middle of the road when a car is passing?” asked another.

“Because we had a stiff sidewind from the left and were setting up for a right turn,” replied Robbio. “Had the vehicle been approaching at a more reasonable speed, either my radar or that of one of the riders in the back would have given notice in enough time to move slightly right.”

Police car driver passes group of cyclists at 78mph in 40mph zone

“As a bicyclist driving on the street you have to drive behind each other on the right side,” ‘Suspicious dig’ noted, inaccurately.

“Incorrect,” countered Rob. “Bicyclists are legally allowed to ride two wide and occupy the entire lane the same as a motorist in my state.”

But at least someone saw the bright side of the whole debacle.

“I’m just shocked you got a response from anyone in the police department. That’s awesome,” wrote HealthOnWheels.

You have to take your wins where you can get them, I suppose…

12 July 2025, 14:07
Forget the Tour de France Hommes, this week’s special edition of the road.cc Podcast is all about northern Italy and the Giro d’Italia Women… and casoncelli, cat selfies, and prima donna mascots
11 July 2025, 15:59
Strava restores old URL links after backlash – as social fitness giant says controversial policy stopped spam problem “getting out of control”
11 July 2025, 15:06
A cut above the rest: Pogačar unstoppable on Mûr-de-Bretagne as he outsprints GC rivals in uphill finale (with young Brit Onley taking third), amidst late crash involving Almeida and Buitrago

No hesitation, no panic, and no one fast enough to match him — Tadej Pogačar has delivered another assured, commanding blow to his rivals on stage seven of the Tour de France, powering clear on the second ascent of the Mûr-de-Bretagne to take a dominant win and reclaim the yellow jersey.

The world champion launched with 150 metres to go after a clinical lead-out from teammate Jhonatan Narváez, distancing both Jonas Vingegaard and Remco Evenepoel in the process. It was Pogačar’s second stage win in four days and the 101st victory of his career — and perhaps his most quietly ruthless of the week.

Behind him, there was chaos. A crash with just six kilometres to go brought down several key names, including Pogačar’s own teammate João Almeida and Bahrain Victorious’ Santiago Buitrago. Both riders remounted, but the crash thinned the field before the final climb and disrupted the rhythm of several teams.

Evenepoel had tried to light it up on the final ramp, launching a sharp acceleration in the last kilometre, but when Pogačar showed his acceleration for the sprint, there was no response. Vingegaard held his wheel and took second, while 22-year-old rising British star Oscar Onley finished a sensational third on the stage. Felix Gall, Matteo Jorgenson, and Evenepoel followed in behind.

Mathieu van der Poel, who started the day in yellow, cracked on the final ascent and was distanced before the line. He hands the maillot jaune back to Pogačar, who now leads the race once again.

Tomorrow’s stage to Laval Espace Mayenne offers a brief GC breather — 171.5km of flat terrain likely to end in a bunch sprint. But with the way Pogačar is riding — calm, clinical, and completely in control — the question now is whether Vingegaard will be able to turn the tide in the high mountains to come, or if by the time his preferred terrain arrives, it’s already going to be too late…

11 July 2025, 14:31
“A bike can mean freedom”: Cycling charity launches 20% off summer sale, with proceeds from programme enabling refugees to get their own bikes
the bike project mechanic - via the bike project on facebook

A charity providing bikes to refugees across the UK has launched a summer sale, offering 20% off refurbished bikes from Monday 14th to Thursday 31st July. Use the code SUMMER20 at checkout to get the discount.

The Bike Project refurbishes donated bikes and uses the proceeds to give bikes to refugees and people seeking asylum — many of whom are living on less than £10 a week. Since 2013, the programme has helped thousands of refugees rebuild their lives, offering access to safe transport, cycling lessons, community rides, and ongoing repair support.

One recipient, Comfort, said: “The bike gave me freedom to travel anywhere I wanted and allowed me to integrate into society… It lifted me out of my depressive state and revived my hope.”

Lizzie Kenyon, Chief Executive of the charity, said: “Buying a bike from us enables us to support more refugees with a bike of their own. So many people tell us about how transformative a bike is for them when they most need support. We hear time and time again about the huge difference our work has made to them as they rebuild their lives here.

“We are proud to be supporting refugees across London, Birmingham and beyond with refurbished bikes, kindly donated by the public. The Bike Project only exists because of the generosity of our supporters.

“By buying a second-hand bicycle from The Bike Project, we can ensure more refugees can get a bike of their own. Please do check our summer sale – you’ll benefit, and refugees will too. I call that a win-win!”

The bikes are fully serviced by professional mechanics and come with a 14-day money-back guarantee. They’re available for collection from the charity’s Deptford depot, local delivery within nine miles of London Bridge, or nationwide shipping.

Find a bike here. Donate a bike here

11 July 2025, 14:04
Liane Lippert wins stage 6 of Giro d’Italia Women as Kopecky abandons race as a precautionary measure ahead of Tour de France Femmes

Liane Lippert claimed her first win of the season on stage 6 of the Giro d’Italia Women, outsprinting Pauliena Rooijakkers from a late breakaway to take victory in Terre Roveresche — while world champion Lotte Kopecky withdrew from the race ahead of the stage due to ongoing lower back pain.

Kopecky, who had already lost time on the two summit finishes earlier this week, stepped off the bike as a precaution, with her team confirming that her focus remains on the Tour de France Femmes, which begins in two weeks’ time. “Lotte Kopecky will not start tomorrow’s sixth stage… as a precaution ahead of the Tour de France Femmes,” SD Worx said. “She is leaving the Giro to take three to four days of complete rest.”

Lippert, who last won on stage 6 of the Giro exactly a year ago, attacked from the break alongside Rooijakkers inside the final 10km. The duo held off the chasers as the peloton hesitated behind, with Lippert launching first to win by two seconds. Lidl-Trek’s Shirin van Anrooij took third, 46 seconds back, with the GC favourites rolling in 1:24 down.

“Super happy,” Lippert said. “I had a super good day today… I was a bit on a low after the second stage, but now I’m just feeling super myself again.”

Race leader Marlen Reusser finished safely in the bunch and retains the maglia rosa, 16 seconds ahead of Elisa Longo Borghini, and 1:53 on Anna van der Breggen, who moves up to third overall following Kopecky’s withdrawal.

Stage 7 brings the final summit finish of this year’s race — 150km to Monte Nerone, with the final 8km averaging over 8 per cent.

11 July 2025, 13:11
Pinarello claims 7.35kg Dogma GR is the “lightest aero gravel bike” on the market
2025 Pinarello Dogma GR gravel bike

Pinarello has unveiled the Dogma GR — a £12,000, race-focused gravel machine that it claims is the lightest aero gravel bike on the market, weighing in at just 7.35kg for the top build. It features the same high-end M40X carbon used on the Dogma F road bike, paired with aero tube shapes and Princeton carbon wheels. Also launched: a refreshed Grevil F range, now “lighter, faster” and priced from £3,000 to £10,000.

> Pinarello launches "lightest aero gravel bike" at 7.35kg for the top-end model, and boosts performance of Grevil F range

To mark the launch, Pinarello shared a social clip of Tom Pidcock tearing it up on the Dogma GR, captioned simply: “NO FEAR.” Fitting.

11 July 2025, 12:43
“Nightmare” for residents as “unlocked” Lime Bikes dumped outside city boundary – “blighting” area where “people pay a lot of money to live”, claim councillors
11 July 2025, 11:32
Pyschological warfare brewing as Pogačar questions Visma’s moves of trying to hand him the yellow jersey, saying he “didn’t know what they were trying to do”, but Visma DS responds: “It’s a good thing he doesn’t get it. We have our own tactics”

Tadej Pogačar might have looked composed as he handed back the yellow jersey yesterday — but behind the smile, he was scratching his head.

“Visma wanted… yeah, I don’t know what they were trying to do,” he said after stage six, reflecting on a finale in which Jonas Vingegaard’s team suddenly ramped up the pace and nearly dragged him back into yellow. “They went full throttle on the last two kickers. Maybe they had information that Van der Poel was losing time at the front and was struggling. Maybe Visma wanted to give me the yellow jersey today.”

Pogačar and Vingegaard, 2025 Tour de France stage six

Pogačar and Vingegaard arrive at the finish of stage six of the 2025 Tour de France stage six, by Zac Williams/SWpix.com

Earlier, UAE had spent the first two hours of the stage responding to a flurry of attacks from Visma-Lease a Bike — with Wout van Aert, Tiesj Benoot and Victor Campenaerts all trying to get in the breakaway.

When Matteo Jorgenson launched a move, Pogačar even had to respond personally. “We survived those two hours well,” he said. “And then we decided whether or not we were going for the stage win. Then we decided not to use our bullets and rode at our own pace... The goal was to expend as little energy as possible today.”

> "Jonas simply didn't have the power": Visma-Lease a Bike count losses after punishing day against the clock

Visma’s late push nearly spoiled that plan, closing the gap to Mathieu van der Poel — who ultimately took yellow by a single second. But from the Visma camp, there was little sign of sympathy or second-guessing.

“It’s a good thing he doesn’t get it,” team DS Grischa Niermann told Sporza. “We have our own tactics and did exactly what we wanted. Period. Did we want him in yellow? Absolutely not. I hear that, but I think UAE rode until 6 kilometres before the finish and they set the lead. Then they also decided that Pogacar almost stayed in the yellow jersey.”

2025 Tour de France Jonas Vingegaard time trial
Jonas Vingegaard during stage five time trial of the 2025 Tour de France, by Zac Williams/SWpix.com

Asked about Pogačar’s confusion, Tiesj Benoot didn’t hold back either. “That he’s confused? I’m often confused too when we go into the mountains,” he joked. “No, we never talked about keeping Tadej in the yellow jersey.

“The fact that he almost stayed in yellow is because they didn’t give Van der Poel enough of a lead. I thought Mathieu would take the yellow jersey by a minute or two. We just wanted to ride the last two climbs as quickly as possible. That made it easier for Jonas not to lose any time on such an explosive finish. There was nothing more to it. Yellow wasn’t even considered.”

Whether deliberate mind games or just misaligned tactics, the psychological tension is already simmering. Visma are still recovering from Vingegaard’s time trial loss, while Pogačar looks relaxed but fully alert to every move. The GC battle is still in its early stages, but the gloves are already halfway off.

11 July 2025, 11:05
2025 Tour de France Ben Healy
Tour de KOM: Ben Healy’s Strava stats from stage six are next level

Fresh off his stunning solo win on stage six of the Tour de France, Ben Healy has dropped the stats — and they’re as outrageous as the ride itself. The EF Education-EasyPost rider uploaded his full 205.66km effort to Strava under the simple caption: “Let’s gooooooo.”

 

The data backs up what we saw: full send from the flag. The 24-year-old Irishman averaged 44.7km/h over more than four and a half hours of racing, punched out 317 watts weighted average power, and hit a max speed of 88.4km/h. Oh, and also claimed four KOMs en route to his biggest win yet — including Côte des Vaux de Vire and “Champ Du Boult a Bloc” (yes, that’s really what it’s called).

From his Giro stage win two years ago to soloing his way to a Tour de France stage win, Ben Healy managed to get us all excited, and maybe even impart strands of hope to other breakaway riders in the coming days.

11 July 2025, 10:46
“You think 1sec is enough for me to keep it to Paris?”: Van der Poel trolls Pogačar after reclaiming yellow

After a brief cameo in yellow, Tadej Pogačar handed the maillot jaune back to Mathieu van der Poel yesterday — and did so in typically gracious fashion. Posting a photo on Instagram, he wrote: “One day in yellow – always an honour. Bravo Mathieu Van der Poel to claim it back and all the breakaway riders today – respect, what a ride, what a stage. And our Tim Wellens back to polka dot jersey.”

All very noble. Until Van der Poel dropped into the comments with: “You think 1sec is enough for me to keep it to Paris?”

It’s a joke, of course — Van der Poel isn’t riding for GC and will almost certainly be handing the jersey back to one of the big names in the mountains. But while he’s got it, why not have a bit of fun with the all-important one-second gap over the world champ?

11 July 2025, 09:41
“Taxpayers’ money wasted on cyclists!” say taxpayers who forgot cyclists pay tax, as council shuts road to paint cycle lane green

South Gloucestershire Council has been closing a stretch of the A432 Badminton Road near Nibley overnight this week to resurface the cycle lane with green asphalt. The five-night closure, between Frog Lane and Nibley Lane, began on Sunday 7 July, meaning tonight is likely the final night of disruption.

Seems straightforward enough: safer, more visible infrastructure, a temporary diversion, and the promise of smoother riding for anyone on two wheels. But comments under Bristol Live's report prompted a glorious eruption of car-brained fury.

Badminton Road, Bristol

“What about the roads that the tax-paying drivers pay for,” fumed one commenter, while another asked, “When will we stop spending taxpayers’ hard-earned money on a minority transport?” Someone else decried the “unused cycle paths” and accused the council of “lying” because resurfacing apparently doesn’t count as road improvement if it involves a bike lane.

Mercifully, a few cooler heads made it through the algorithm. “Cyclists pay tax. Therefore by definition, pay for roads. That whooshing noise was your argument falling out of the window,” wrote one. Another simply said: “It’s better by bike.”

Which, as ever, were probably the most reasonable opinions of the lot — and as expected, the least liked too…

11 July 2025, 09:20
Tour de France stage 7 preview: Double ascent of Mûr-de-Bretagne set to continue GC fireworks
2025 Tour de France stage 7 profile

The Tour de France returns to Brittany today for a 196.6km test from the windswept coast of Saint-Malo to the equally lovely and treacherous slopes of Mûr-de-Bretagne — a climb so iconic it’s earned the nickname of Breton Alpe d’Huez.

After a week of lumpy, leg-sapping terrain, stage seven offers yet more bumps — and a finish that has made headlines before. The Mûr, 2km at an average of 6.9 per cent, will be tackled twice: the first ascent comes with 20km to go, the second forms the uphill finish in Guerlédan.

The last time the Tour visited in 2021, Mathieu van der Poel produced one of the most memorable rides of his career — attacking both ascents to take the stage and the yellow jersey. Four years on, he’s back in yellow, and with another explosive uphill finish on the cards, you wouldn’t bet against him trying again.

But there’s another familiar name in the mix. Tadej Pogačar briefly took hold of the maillot jaune after the time trial on Wednesday and, after yesterday’s stage six (aka, The Ben Healy Show), now trails Van der Poel by just one second. With bonus seconds up for grabs on the line, and gradients that suit his punchy style, today’s finish could see the yellow jersey change hands once more.

2025 Tour de France

(A.S.O./Billy Ceusters)

“This is a climb where tactical sense is almost as decisive as physical strength,” warned race director Christian Prudhomme. The GC favourites may well wait for the mountains — but on a climb this steep and this legendary, don’t be surprised if the Tour explodes early.

As ever in this part of the world, fans lining the hill would be holding and waving the Gwenn-ha-du, the iconic black-and-white flag of the Celtic region, that in your live blog host’s opinion, is one of the coolest-looking banners for the peloton to race past.

11 July 2025, 09:17
“Members of the public can’t walk around the streets safely and they feel intimidated when these people are riding around, particularly with their faces covered or they’re wearing balaclavas”

After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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Global Nomad | 6 months ago
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so at least i can feel better by knowing I use the same bike computer as Ben Healey.....

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mdavidford replied to Global Nomad | 6 months ago
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Must be irritating when he waltzes off to France with it for three weeks.

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Simon E replied to mdavidford | 6 months ago
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Sharing is caring. wink

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eburtthebike | 6 months ago
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Talking of the residents of SGlos reminds me of when I was the local CTC rep, and some of the interactions with councillors.

One claimed that a CTC policy wasn't a CTC policy, even though I produced the CTC policy handbook and showed him the relevant policy.

Another one, the leader of the council, accidentally copied me in to an email, calling me a complete pain, for asking the council to implement their own policies.

I shed a tear when I left: I hit my shin on a box.

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Hirsute | 6 months ago
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" Walking is great, especially during the summer months.
When its persistantly pouring down with rain though, walking (like cycling) is not so clever. "

Another person who has never heard of outer layers.

Where exactly in the UK is it persistently raining?

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mdavidford replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Where exactly in the UK is it persistently raining?

NI

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chrisonabike replied to mdavidford | 6 months ago
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mdavidford wrote:

NI

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Rendel Harris replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Where exactly in the UK is it persistently raining?

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Gloucester_Dave | 6 months ago
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In regards to the green cycle lane in Gloucestershire; if it's anything like in cheltenham it's not asphalt, it is essentially rumble strip finish. They take a nice smooth tarmac and pour some glue on it to level out any cross drainage that may have been there then stick green gravel into it. It's caused a few punctures amongst colleagues and I've had it flick up into my eyes a couple of times. 
 

It's annoying as I think the council genuinely want to provide decent cycle facilities but they lose it at the last moment due to shite consultants insisting that they spend more money to ruin the finish. 'But it's green!' Was the only response I ever got out of them. 

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MaxiMinimalist | 6 months ago
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To avoid further confusion and useless debate, people riding an e-bike shall be named e-bikers. People riding a bicycle under their own power already have a name - they are called cyclists.

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mdavidford replied to MaxiMinimalist | 6 months ago
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Except for the ones that are not real cyclists, but just people on bikes.

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chrisonabike replied to mdavidford | 6 months ago
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mdavidford wrote:

Except for the ones that are not real cyclists, but just people on bikes.

My heart always sinks when I see "this will fix all the confusion and useless debate".  What will be our raison d'être?

Further: cyclists not on bikesCyclist not on (in) a bike OR a trikeCyclist not on a bike or a trike or a quad or a velomobile "Cyclists" (according to the Dutch convention / rules) mostly not on bikes, variously powered...

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quiff replied to MaxiMinimalist | 6 months ago
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Ah, but which variety of ebike are you talking about - illegal motorbikes, or EAPCs? 

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Rendel Harris replied to MaxiMinimalist | 6 months ago
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MaxiMinimalist wrote:

To avoid further confusion and useless debate, people riding an e-bike shall be named e-bikers. People riding a bicycle under their own power already have a name - they are called cyclists.

What about the people who are riding their e-bikes over 25 km/h so that the power is switched off? What about cyclists freewheeling downhill, they aren't using their own power, do they stop being cyclists for that time? What about someone on an ebike who is putting out 250 W and getting 100W assistance from the motor when you are only putting out 150 W? Why are you entitled to call yourself a cyclist and they are not when they are making more effort than you? Drop the snobbery, anyone riding a legal ebike is a cyclist: yes they are getting assistance, just as I am from gravity when I'm cycling downhill, from the weather when I have a nice tailwind, from drafting when I get behind a bus or a truck. Let's just stop this nonsense, please.

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Hirsute replied to Rendel Harris | 6 months ago
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C'mon Rendel you know from previous threads that cycling above 25kph on an epac is impossible. Cycling on an epac with no assistance is also impossible.

I have a friend who forgot to charge his ebike yesterday and was forced to cycle today with no/little assistance in the outward leg in order to be able to have assistance on the return leg and got back with 10% left.

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Rendel Harris replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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C'mon Rendel you know from previous threads that cycling above 25kph on an epac is impossible. Cycling on an epac with no assistance is also impossible.

You jest but I had an American friend visiting last week who was telling me that apparently there are several well-attested stories in the US of cops pulling over people on EPACs on downhills because they've seen the motor and noticed they were doing more than 20mph (the general limit for the lowest class of ebikes in most states) and decided that they must be on an illegal machine because they were exceeding the powered limit.

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chrisonabike replied to Rendel Harris | 6 months ago
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There's probably enough for a thread about "police canards / making up law about bikes" in the UK, never mind the US...

The one I'm most aware of * is the "have you got a licence for that / where's the motor?" stop for velomobiles.

* Though never happened to me on a recumbent because a) I've never had a chance for anything more than a play on anything with a fairing (tail box / bag though obvs...) and b) clearly I'm just not fast enough!

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mitsky | 6 months ago
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With regards to the US police speeding past the cycling group...

I can't help but think of Terminator 2 and the police car having "to serve and protect" on the side.

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kingleo | 6 months ago
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I was being taken home by hospital transport, and one of the passengers was going about all sorts of things. Then, the passenger started to complain about a 20MPH zone and how difficult it was to look at the speedometer and drive. So I told him, motorists have no difficulty reading small handheld mobile phones when driving, which are smaller than a speedometer. He then told me that cars are not designed to be driven at slow speeds, so I told him in that case they had better stop driving in London because it's not very often they can go faster than 20MPH in the traffic.

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quiff replied to kingleo | 6 months ago
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kingleo wrote:

Then, the passenger started to complain about a 20MPH zone and how difficult it was to look at the speedometer and drive. 

If this is a problem, surely it afflicts them at all speeds...  

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Hirsute replied to quiff | 6 months ago
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The process seems to be

I am used to going faster 

In order to not speed I have to look at the dash more

I am unwilling to learn or practice

Therefore it is difficult to drive at 20.

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quiff replied to Hirsute | 6 months ago
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Agreed. But even for those people, before 20mph became widespread, you might still have a journey where the speed limit is 30, 40, 50, 60 and 70 at different times. For most people, adjusting between them is not pure 'muscle memory' and requires use of the speedo, so how did these people cope? It seems to be "a problem" mostly for those who only ever drive in cities who had become accustomed to driving at (probably a little more than) 30.      

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mctrials23 replied to kingleo | 6 months ago
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The old "I am a shit driver so the rules should change" argument. Same argument when people hurt and kill people in their cars. This is what happens when you have decades of telling drivers that "accidents happen" and that peoples inattention and shit driving isn't why they happen. 

Its actually really easy to drive at 20 and cars are just fine doing it. The fact that average journey times only increased a fraction in areas with blanket 20 limits perhaps points at the fact there is absolutely zero issue with driving at that speed and most drivers are ill informed idiots whos opinions are based entirely on their fragile feelings. 

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Pub bike replied to mctrials23 | 6 months ago
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"I will make up any excuse to avoid driving at 20mph."  If a car can't be driven at 20mph it shouldn't be legal to drive it on the roads, although sadly the same argument isn't made for cars that can exceed the national speed limit.

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David9694 replied to kingleo | 6 months ago
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You have to believe an extra special set of lies to be against 20 mph limits. 

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KDee | 6 months ago
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Watching TdF stage 7 here in NL on HBO Max...just had an advert! indecision

So it seems they're now following what TNT have done. Sure there werent any ads on the previous 7 stages. Although this is the first one I'm catching live.

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brooksby | 6 months ago
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“What about the roads that the tax-paying drivers pay for,” fumed one commenter,

Are they really sure that they want cycle lanes on the motorways?

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mitsky replied to brooksby | 6 months ago
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Either

1) the commenter is accusing cyclists of being tax dodgers (as all of us who do pay tax are contributing to roads)

or

2) there are mysterious invisible roads that exist, solely paid for by drivers...
(ie none) 

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brooksby replied to mitsky | 6 months ago
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mitsky wrote:

2) there are mysterious invisible roads that exist, solely paid for by drivers...
(ie none) 

True, but I thought that the primary road network (ie. motorways) was kind of ringfenced? (edit) Financially, not literally  3

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NickSprink replied to brooksby | 6 months ago
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brooksby wrote:

 

True, but I thought that the primary road network (ie. motorways) was kind of ringfenced? (edit) Financially, not literally  3

Motorways and trunk roads are maintained and funded by the national agencies (England, Scotland, Wales, NI), all other roads fall under the local councils.

mitsky wrote:

2) there are mysterious invisible roads that exist, solely paid for by drivers...
(ie none)

Technically I suppose that motorways that are also toll roads are paid for by drivers for drivers, however still not a tax, you don't pay if you don't drive on them

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