Ghost bike for sale on Facebook Marketplace?; Elaine Paige deletes RideLondon “road tax” tweet; Chris Froome has “no recollection” of Dauphiné crash; Yellow Jumper; RideLondon ‘short’ short route; and much more on the live blog today

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1. Spent the weekend in London
   Spent the weekend in London visiting friends, right inside the zone affected by the road closures. We still managed to drive to Wisley botanic gardens and back in time to watch the race go past the end of the road. Later cycled across to Esher to watch them on the way back in.

   I’d have to say that the stewards, especially the chap at the roundabout where we watched from put up good naturedly with a quite a bit of unpleasant abuse from motorists unable to read or understand the clear signs notifying them of the road closures.

   I expect some of them have never paid VAT on a bicycle and therefore have no right to using the road, or some other nonsensical tax bollocks.

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2. funnily enough the original

   funnily enough the original Tweet from Elaine Paige no longer exists…

    

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   • kevvjj wrote:

     funnily enough the original Tweet from Elaine Paige no longer exists…

      

     — kevvjj

     … but her inadvertent portmanteau ‘Autocation’ will live forever.

     I had one just an hour ago with a Post Office van. When the driver got out of his van in a threatening way it turned into a bit of a mailstrom.

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3. I see Elaine Paige has

   I see Elaine Paige has realised what a bafoon she has made of herself and has deleted her tweet. If only there was a way to avoid such tripe, such as learning a few facts rather than thinking you are more privileged because you sang a bit and have a radio show with a play list of luvvie show songs…

   I wonder if she feels the same way about the London Marathon, or some Pride event or any other event that our capital hosts that means a few roads are closed on a Sunday for a few hours, possibly with SOME participants not owning cars and therefore not paying said ‘road tax’?

   #bigot

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4. What she really means: “I’m

   What she really means: “I’m not used to being told ‘no’ and completely overreacted”.

   I think we should appropriate her unintentional neologism and term any argument with an ignorant driver an “autocation”.

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5. I was under the impression

   I was under the impression that Ride London is a large event which takes place every year, and which was covered on the BBC FFS.

   You’d think a resident of London, and a resident whose home apparently lies within the area affected, might have noticed it before, and/or read any warning notices put up around the city?

   (We really need a road.cc emoji thing for “face-palm”).

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6. “best known this century for

   “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

   Love it!  

   You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

   BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

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   • Simon E wrote:

     “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

     Love it!  

     You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

     BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

     — Simon E

     you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

     Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

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     • Xena wrote:

       “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

       Love it!  

       You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

       BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

       — Xena

       you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

       Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

       — Simon E

        

       So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

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       • spen wrote:

         “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

         Love it!  

         You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

         BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

         — spen

         you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

         Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

         — Xena

          

         So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

         — Simon E

         show me a false hood . Show me one ?  Did you look at the link about the ipcc ?  You obviously didn’t. Before you post with your mouth look at the link . Then post again and apologies will be accepted.

         First electric cars yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car.     

         Got that as well . 

         Al gore   http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/04/28/gores-inconvenient-enron/

         If the ocean’s rising, why is Al Gore in Montecito?

         In response to the recent fanatical post by a global warming drone who fears that the rising tides will drown mankind, let him take solace in the fact that his climate guru, Al Gore, recently bought a $9 million beach front home in Montecito. Guess Al is not really afraid of sinking into the sea.

         Climate gate ,take a look . https://archive.org/details/TheCorbettReport-Episode110a-Climategate

         No false hoods , your brainwashed by the mainstream media not me . 

         Have this one as well , ipcc’s mr Mann getting is arse kicked in a court of law https://principia-scientific.org/michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy-as-his-courtroom-climate-capers-collapse/

         wake the fuck up , stop watching the bbc and if you going to open your mouth make sure you know what you talking about .   Take a look at all the links or stay ignorant. It’s your choice bro .

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         • Xena wrote:

           “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

           Love it!  

           You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

           BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

           — Xena

           you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

           Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

           — spen

            

           So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

           — Xena

           show me a false hood . Show me one ?  Did you look at the link about the ipcc ?  You obviously didn’t. Before you post with your mouth look at the link . Then post again and apologies will be accepted.

           First electric cars yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car.     

           Got that as well . 

           Al gore   http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/04/28/gores-inconvenient-enron/

           If the ocean’s rising, why is Al Gore in Montecito?

           In response to the recent fanatical post by a global warming drone who fears that the rising tides will drown mankind, let him take solace in the fact that his climate guru, Al Gore, recently bought a $9 million beach front home in Montecito. Guess Al is not really afraid of sinking into the sea.

           Climate gate ,take a look . https://archive.org/details/TheCorbettReport-Episode110a-Climategate

           No false hoods , your brainwashed by the mainstream media not me . 

           Have this one as well , ipcc’s mr Mann getting is arse kicked in a court of law https://principia-scientific.org/michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy-as-his-courtroom-climate-capers-collapse/

           wake the fuck up , stop watching the bbc and if you going to open your mouth make sure you know what you talking about .   Take a look at all the links or stay ignorant. It’s your choice bro .

           — Simon E

           Such a shame that those 99% of climate scientists don’t have the benefit of your expertise and knowledge.

           https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99

           https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

           https://futurism.com/climate-change-caused-humans

         • burtthebike wrote:

           “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

           Love it!  

           You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

           BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

           — burtthebike

           you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

           Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

           — Xena

            

           So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

           — spen

           show me a false hood . Show me one ?  Did you look at the link about the ipcc ?  You obviously didn’t. Before you post with your mouth look at the link . Then post again and apologies will be accepted.

           First electric cars yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car.     

           Got that as well . 

           Al gore   http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/04/28/gores-inconvenient-enron/

           If the ocean’s rising, why is Al Gore in Montecito?

           In response to the recent fanatical post by a global warming drone who fears that the rising tides will drown mankind, let him take solace in the fact that his climate guru, Al Gore, recently bought a $9 million beach front home in Montecito. Guess Al is not really afraid of sinking into the sea.

           Climate gate ,take a look . https://archive.org/details/TheCorbettReport-Episode110a-Climategate

           No false hoods , your brainwashed by the mainstream media not me . 

           Have this one as well , ipcc’s mr Mann getting is arse kicked in a court of law https://principia-scientific.org/michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy-as-his-courtroom-climate-capers-collapse/

           wake the fuck up , stop watching the bbc and if you going to open your mouth make sure you know what you talking about .   Take a look at all the links or stay ignorant. It’s your choice bro .

           — Xena

           Such a shame that those 99% of climate scientists don’t have the benefit of your expertise and knowledge.

           https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99

           https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

           https://futurism.com/climate-change-caused-humans

           — Simon E

           Look at the links then comment . Look at this https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/ Look at the links Oh here’s your NASA buddies cooking the climate books https://youtu.be/Xpx27-00NgE Facts you are relying on MSM source these are not the facts . Are you scared to look at the links I have posted. It’s ok to be wrong , and you are . The things you have posted , if you look at my links it show them to be altered,fraudulent. Have you heard of climate gate for instance ,,,,,,, Comment again after watching all my links or just go away and stay ignorant .

         • Xena wrote:

           “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

           Love it!  

           You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

           BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

           — Xena

           you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

           Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

           — burtthebike

            

           So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

           — Xena

           show me a false hood . Show me one ?  Did you look at the link about the ipcc ?  You obviously didn’t. Before you post with your mouth look at the link . Then post again and apologies will be accepted.

           First electric cars yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car.     

           Got that as well . 

           Al gore   http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/04/28/gores-inconvenient-enron/

           If the ocean’s rising, why is Al Gore in Montecito?

           In response to the recent fanatical post by a global warming drone who fears that the rising tides will drown mankind, let him take solace in the fact that his climate guru, Al Gore, recently bought a $9 million beach front home in Montecito. Guess Al is not really afraid of sinking into the sea.

           Climate gate ,take a look . https://archive.org/details/TheCorbettReport-Episode110a-Climategate

           No false hoods , your brainwashed by the mainstream media not me . 

           Have this one as well , ipcc’s mr Mann getting is arse kicked in a court of law https://principia-scientific.org/michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy-as-his-courtroom-climate-capers-collapse/

           wake the fuck up , stop watching the bbc and if you going to open your mouth make sure you know what you talking about .   Take a look at all the links or stay ignorant. It’s your choice bro .

           — spen

           Such a shame that those 99% of climate scientists don’t have the benefit of your expertise and knowledge.

           https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99

           https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

           https://futurism.com/climate-change-caused-humans

           — Xena

           Look at the links then comment . Look at this https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/ Look at the links Oh here’s your NASA buddies cooking the climate books https://youtu.be/Xpx27-00NgE Facts you are relying on MSM source these are not the facts . Are you scared to look at the links I have posted. It’s ok to be wrong , and you are . The things you have posted , if you look at my links it show them to be altered,fraudulent. Have you heard of climate gate for instance ,,,,,,, Comment again after watching all my links or just go away and stay ignorant .

           — Simon E

           Oh good grief… Denying human effect on the climate changes is analogous to declaring belief in a flat earth. 

           You don’t deny a more-or-less spherical earth, do you?

         • brooksby wrote:

           “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

           Love it!  

           You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

           BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

           — brooksby

           you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

           Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

           — Xena

            

           So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

           — burtthebike

           show me a false hood . Show me one ?  Did you look at the link about the ipcc ?  You obviously didn’t. Before you post with your mouth look at the link . Then post again and apologies will be accepted.

           First electric cars yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car.     

           Got that as well . 

           Al gore   http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/04/28/gores-inconvenient-enron/

           If the ocean’s rising, why is Al Gore in Montecito?

           In response to the recent fanatical post by a global warming drone who fears that the rising tides will drown mankind, let him take solace in the fact that his climate guru, Al Gore, recently bought a $9 million beach front home in Montecito. Guess Al is not really afraid of sinking into the sea.

           Climate gate ,take a look . https://archive.org/details/TheCorbettReport-Episode110a-Climategate

           No false hoods , your brainwashed by the mainstream media not me . 

           Have this one as well , ipcc’s mr Mann getting is arse kicked in a court of law https://principia-scientific.org/michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy-as-his-courtroom-climate-capers-collapse/

           wake the fuck up , stop watching the bbc and if you going to open your mouth make sure you know what you talking about .   Take a look at all the links or stay ignorant. It’s your choice bro .

           — Xena

           Such a shame that those 99% of climate scientists don’t have the benefit of your expertise and knowledge.

           https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99

           https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

           https://futurism.com/climate-change-caused-humans

           — spen

           Look at the links then comment . Look at this https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/ Look at the links Oh here’s your NASA buddies cooking the climate books https://youtu.be/Xpx27-00NgE Facts you are relying on MSM source these are not the facts . Are you scared to look at the links I have posted. It’s ok to be wrong , and you are . The things you have posted , if you look at my links it show them to be altered,fraudulent. Have you heard of climate gate for instance ,,,,,,, Comment again after watching all my links or just go away and stay ignorant .

           — Xena

           Oh good grief… Denying human effect on the climate changes is analogous to declaring belief in a flat earth. 

           You don’t deny a more-or-less spherical earth, do you?

           — Simon E

           look at the links I posted  ,  to scared to ?  if your going to make a comment look at the links i posted or shut the fuck up and keep your fairy tales  ideology to yourself .  I’m 100% right and your a ignorant bbc MSM news bitch.  This is the trouble with MSM news believing idiots , your so confident in what you are told that you will sprout any old shit you are told . Try doing some research for yourself .if you want the truth most of the time you have to look for it yourself .  

           Now you can post some more uneducated brainwashed comments or you can look at the links I have posted and apologies will be accepted. But your probably the kind of person who never admits they are wrong so will ignore the links I posted which have FACTUAL PROOF and carry on living in MSM bitch world .

         • Xena wrote:

           Oh good grief… Denying human effect on the climate changes is analogous to declaring belief in a flat earth. 

           You don’t deny a more-or-less spherical earth, do you?

           — Xena

           look at the links I posted  ,  to scared to ?  if your going to make a comment look at the links i posted or shut the fuck up and keep your fairy tales  ideology to yourself .  I’m 100% right and your a ignorant bbc MSM news bitch.  This is the trouble with MSM news believing idiots , your so confident in what you are told that you will sprout any old shit you are told . Try doing some research for yourself .if you want the truth most of the time you have to look for it yourself .  

           Now you can post some more uneducated brainwashed comments or you can look at the links I have posted and apologies will be accepted. But your probably the kind of person who never admits they are wrong so will ignore the links I posted which have FACTUAL PROOF and carry on living in MSM bitch world .

           — brooksby

           Oh, I am so sorry – I hadn’t realised that you were a ‘Merican True Believer.  We probably ought to have realised earlier, and then we could have used short words and simple sentences so you’d understand 

         • Xena wrote:

           “best known this century for being mentioned by Susan Boyle during a 2008 talent show audition”

           Love it!  

           You’ve got to feel a bit sorry for poor Elaine, she’s probably only just discovered that she is not the centre of the universe.

           BBC coverage mentioned a 90% drop in pollution levels during the road closures, yet there were still loads of people getting around… on bicycles. It must be wonderful for all the families, casual and returning cyclists who can enjoy a car-free central London. A real pity that it’s only one day and most of the city will return to being a smog-filled, noisy, congested shithole again today.

           — Xena

           you know that electric cars were some of the first ever invented . It was only the oligarchs who were getting rich form oil who instigated the mainstream use of oil driven transport .  You do know those same rich family’s  run and own all these so called environmental companies , etc wwf  green peace  ( have been taken over )  they are all pushing the climate change narrative, these are the same cunts who made electric cars redundant when motor transport came in to existence. You know Marcus strong formed the “ governmental” IPCC ,check him out ,he’s a oligarchs best friend . You know the remit of the IPCC is only the impact made by man on the climate. So all other forms of effects are not looked into . You know about climate gate and the way the data was altered and the fact that Phil Jones and his colleague were found guilty of fraudulent science but didn’t get prosecution because of the statute of limitations.  You do know al gore has made over $100 million Dollars since is bullshit film working with the likes of Enron etc etc and has bought 2 house ,one on in san fransico and one a bit further north ,both in the exact place where by his bullshit science ,should both be under water right now .  

           Now check this out and tell the world the truth . Learn the truth .https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/

           — brooksby

            

           So many words and so many falsehoods, you must have worked hard on the one Xena

           — Xena

           show me a false hood . Show me one ?  Did you look at the link about the ipcc ?  You obviously didn’t. Before you post with your mouth look at the link . Then post again and apologies will be accepted.

           First electric cars yhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_car.     

           Got that as well . 

           Al gore   http://www.globalwarming.org/2009/04/28/gores-inconvenient-enron/

           If the ocean’s rising, why is Al Gore in Montecito?

           In response to the recent fanatical post by a global warming drone who fears that the rising tides will drown mankind, let him take solace in the fact that his climate guru, Al Gore, recently bought a $9 million beach front home in Montecito. Guess Al is not really afraid of sinking into the sea.

           Climate gate ,take a look . https://archive.org/details/TheCorbettReport-Episode110a-Climategate

           No false hoods , your brainwashed by the mainstream media not me . 

           Have this one as well , ipcc’s mr Mann getting is arse kicked in a court of law https://principia-scientific.org/michael-mann-faces-bankruptcy-as-his-courtroom-climate-capers-collapse/

           wake the fuck up , stop watching the bbc and if you going to open your mouth make sure you know what you talking about .   Take a look at all the links or stay ignorant. It’s your choice bro .

           — burtthebike

           Such a shame that those 99% of climate scientists don’t have the benefit of your expertise and knowledge.

           https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/24/scientific-consensus-on-humans-causing-global-warming-passes-99

           https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change

           https://futurism.com/climate-change-caused-humans

           — Xena

           Look at the links then comment . Look at this https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-282-the-ipcc-exposed/ Look at the links Oh here’s your NASA buddies cooking the climate books https://youtu.be/Xpx27-00NgE Facts you are relying on MSM source these are not the facts . Are you scared to look at the links I have posted. It’s ok to be wrong , and you are . The things you have posted , if you look at my links it show them to be altered,fraudulent. Have you heard of climate gate for instance ,,,,,,, Comment again after watching all my links or just go away and stay ignorant .

           — spen

           Oh good grief… Denying human effect on the climate changes is analogous to declaring belief in a flat earth. 

           You don’t deny a more-or-less spherical earth, do you?

           — Xena

           look at the links I posted  ,  to scared to ?  if your going to make a comment look at the links i posted or shut the fuck up and keep your fairy tales  ideology to yourself .  I’m 100% right and your a ignorant bbc MSM news bitch.  This is the trouble with MSM news believing idiots , your so confident in what you are told that you will sprout any old shit you are told . Try doing some research for yourself .if you want the truth most of the time you have to look for it yourself .  

           Now you can post some more uneducated brainwashed comments or you can look at the links I have posted and apologies will be accepted. But your probably the kind of person who never admits they are wrong so will ignore the links I posted which have FACTUAL PROOF and carry on living in MSM bitch world .

           — Simon E

            

           It’s annoying how many easily-fooled sheep there are out there who take their world view from crackpot youtube videos while thinking they are being super clever and know ‘the truth’.  I know a guy who keeps citing Alex Jones and insisting he has ‘the truth they don’t want you to know’, unaware he’s just swallowing rubbish that ‘they’ want him to believe.

            

           Go educate yourself – take some degree or, better still, postgrad-level courses in atmospheric physics, for example, then maybe you’ll have some understanding of the topic and won’t be such an easy mark for charlatans with YouTube accounts.  YouTube is not a peer-reviewed science journal.

            

           (Are you American, or just one of the British sheep who have recently been suckered by mad right-wing US propaganda?  Your use of the term ‘MSM’ certainly suggests a sheep-like mentality, and the delusional belief that Al Gore is somehow central to the topic of climate science seems to be weirdly common among right-wing Americans.  Clue:  What Al Gore does has no bearing whatsoever on the reality of CO2-driven-climate-change)

            

           The use of all-caps and the mis-spelling of “you’re” also seems indicative of the type.

            

             I also genuinely wonder how much this lunacy comes, ultimately, from Putin?  American liberals often seem to trace it back to the Russians, but I sometimes wonder if their fixation on Russian influence isn’t, ironically, getting into the same territory as the right-wing obsession with conspiracies.  It’s certainly ironic how unpatriotic both the UK and US right have become – both now owe their first allegiance to foreigners.

         • FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

           It’s annoying how many easily-fooled sheep there are out there who take their world view from crackpot youtube videos while thinking they are being super clever and know ‘the truth’.  I know a guy who keeps citing Alex Jones and insisting he has ‘the truth they don’t want you to know’, unaware he’s just swallowing rubbish that ‘they’ want him to believe.

            

           Go educate yourself – take some degree or, better still, postgrad-level courses in atmospheric physics, for example, then maybe you’ll have some understanding of the topic and won’t be such an easy mark for charlatans with YouTube accounts.  YouTube is not a peer-reviewed science journal.

            

           (Are you American, or just one of the British sheep who have recently been suckered by mad right-wing US propaganda?  Your use of the term ‘MSM’ certainly suggests a sheep-like mentality, and the delusional belief that Al Gore is somehow central to the topic of climate science seems to be weirdly common among right-wing Americans.  Clue:  What Al Gore does has no bearing whatsoever on the reality of CO2-driven-climate-change)

            

           The use of all-caps and the mis-spelling of “you’re” also seems indicative of the type.

            

             I also genuinely wonder how much this lunacy comes, ultimately, from Putin?  American liberals often seem to trace it back to the Russians, but I sometimes wonder if their fixation on Russian influence isn’t, ironically, getting into the same territory as the right-wing obsession with conspiracies.  It’s certainly ironic how unpatriotic both the UK and US right have become – both now owe their first allegiance to foreigners.

           — FluffyKittenofTindalos

           What bugs me with so many of the conspiracy theorists is that they only seem to link to videos as their source of truth. Most of the time, I can’t be bothered to listen to a video, so I’d much rather have the argument along with references in a textual format instead. It’s a lot easier to deconstruct an argument when it’s clearly and unambiguously stated which is probably why they prefer to stick to producing videos where they can chain together a bunch of unrelated assumptions and reach their conclusion.

           Something else that I’ve noted is that most of the people claiming to be revealing The Truth always have some secret info that they are not willing to share (or not unless money changes hands first).

           I used to work alongside a bloke who was deep into his counter-culture theories and was a huge fan of chem-trails and perpetual motion machines amongst other things. Whenever I tried to get him down to the basic facts there was always some reason that the data couldn’t be published. He was also a big fan of RT News which James Corbett (as linked to by Xena) has been accused of having links with.

           The biggest mistake the theorists make is resorting to the “show me a falsehood” defence as though it is up to logical minded people to disprove unusual claims rather than the “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” school of thought.

           Xena’s right about the electric cars though they would have sucked with the battery technology at the time.

         • hawkinspeter wrote:

           Xena’s right about the electric cars though they would have sucked with the battery technology at the time.

           — hawkinspeter

           BBC4 had a documentary about the early history of the automobile last week.

           It covered the steam cars and the early electric cars, as well as the development of petrol cars. 

           We’ll pass over it not mentioning the role of cyclists in campaigning for tarmac roads (the programme simply said the roads were rubbish, because they were only used by pedestrians and horse-carts, hence why cars weren’t taken up so quickly), but it did say the reason early electric cars didn’t take off (so to speak) was that batteries at the time were utterly rubbish!

         • brooksby wrote:

           Xena’s right about the electric cars though they would have sucked with the battery technology at the time.

           — brooksby

           BBC4 had a documentary about the early history of the automobile last week.

           It covered the steam cars and the early electric cars, as well as the development of petrol cars. 

           We’ll pass over it not mentioning the role of cyclists in campaigning for tarmac roads (the programme simply said the roads were rubbish, because they were only used by pedestrians and horse-carts, hence why cars weren’t taken up so quickly), but it did say the reason early electric cars didn’t take off (so to speak) was that batteries at the time were utterly rubbish!

           — hawkinspeter

           Would that have been “Revolutions: The Ideas that Changed the World”? https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000775k/revolutions-the-ideas-that-changed-the-world-series-1-2-the-car

           If so, I’ll give that a watch – some of the early 20’s cars just looked fantastic.

         • hawkinspeter wrote:

           Xena’s right about the electric cars though they would have sucked with the battery technology at the time.

           — hawkinspeter

           BBC4 had a documentary about the early history of the automobile last week.

           It covered the steam cars and the early electric cars, as well as the development of petrol cars. 

           We’ll pass over it not mentioning the role of cyclists in campaigning for tarmac roads (the programme simply said the roads were rubbish, because they were only used by pedestrians and horse-carts, hence why cars weren’t taken up so quickly), but it did say the reason early electric cars didn’t take off (so to speak) was that batteries at the time were utterly rubbish!

           — brooksby

           Would that have been “Revolutions: The Ideas that Changed the World”? https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000775k/revolutions-the-ideas-that-changed-the-world-series-1-2-the-car

           If so, I’ll give that a watch – some of the early 20’s cars just looked fantastic.

           — hawkinspeter

           Its definitely worth a watch – if you can get over Jim al Khalili looking like he’s narrating into a webcam 

           ktache has addressed the main gripes I had with the programme.  I mean, I was under the impression that bicycle mechanics/mechanisms were used in early cars: last time I checked, we didn’t go straight from horse-and-cart to motor car… 

         • hawkinspeter wrote:

           It’s annoying how many easily-fooled sheep there are out there who take their world view from crackpot youtube videos while thinking they are being super clever and know ‘the truth’.  I know a guy who keeps citing Alex Jones and insisting he has ‘the truth they don’t want you to know’, unaware he’s just swallowing rubbish that ‘they’ want him to believe.

            

           Go educate yourself – take some degree or, better still, postgrad-level courses in atmospheric physics, for example, then maybe you’ll have some understanding of the topic and won’t be such an easy mark for charlatans with YouTube accounts.  YouTube is not a peer-reviewed science journal.

            

           (Are you American, or just one of the British sheep who have recently been suckered by mad right-wing US propaganda?  Your use of the term ‘MSM’ certainly suggests a sheep-like mentality, and the delusional belief that Al Gore is somehow central to the topic of climate science seems to be weirdly common among right-wing Americans.  Clue:  What Al Gore does has no bearing whatsoever on the reality of CO2-driven-climate-change)

            

           The use of all-caps and the mis-spelling of “you’re” also seems indicative of the type.

            

             I also genuinely wonder how much this lunacy comes, ultimately, from Putin?  American liberals often seem to trace it back to the Russians, but I sometimes wonder if their fixation on Russian influence isn’t, ironically, getting into the same territory as the right-wing obsession with conspiracies.  It’s certainly ironic how unpatriotic both the UK and US right have become – both now owe their first allegiance to foreigners.

           — hawkinspeter

           What bugs me with so many of the conspiracy theorists is that they only seem to link to videos as their source of truth. Most of the time, I can’t be bothered to listen to a video, so I’d much rather have the argument along with references in a textual format instead. It’s a lot easier to deconstruct an argument when it’s clearly and unambiguously stated which is probably why they prefer to stick to producing videos where they can chain together a bunch of unrelated assumptions and reach their conclusion.

           Something else that I’ve noted is that most of the people claiming to be revealing The Truth always have some secret info that they are not willing to share (or not unless money changes hands first).

           I used to work alongside a bloke who was deep into his counter-culture theories and was a huge fan of chem-trails and perpetual motion machines amongst other things. Whenever I tried to get him down to the basic facts there was always some reason that the data couldn’t be published. He was also a big fan of RT News which James Corbett (as linked to by Xena) has been accused of having links with.

           The biggest mistake the theorists make is resorting to the “show me a falsehood” defence as though it is up to logical minded people to disprove unusual claims rather than the “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” school of thought.

           Xena’s right about the electric cars though they would have sucked with the battery technology at the time.

           — FluffyKittenofTindalos

            

           Oh, absolutely agree.  They always seem to prefer videos to text, and I can’t be arsed watching videos – give me a written argument, thanks.

            

           It might partly be because the audience for these things just aren’t very literate, but I really think there’s some sort of power-trick involved as well (possibly a financial issue also, given how YouTube and such platforms measure ‘hits’). 

             I’ve struggled to explicate why I find their habit of linking to videos so intensely annoying – there’s something arrogant about presenting your argument in that form, there’s a kind of ego-issue involved.  It’s forcing the person you are arguing with to act like a docile ‘audience’, putting them in a one-down position where they have to sit there passively as you lecture them.  Reading a textual arugment is a more engaged process.

            

           What I remember about electric cars is that the early idea was that they would be aimed at women, who would be appropriately clean and quiet,  while men drove the manly dirty petrol vehicles.

7. Okay…

   Okay…

   The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

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   • Miller wrote:

     Okay…

     The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

     — Miller

     Nope, my three mates all clocked over 160km.

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     • kevvjj wrote:

       Okay…

       The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

       — kevvjj

       Nope, my three mates all clocked over 160km.

       — Miller

       Prompted by your brusque rebuttal I just looked at a random selection of RL rides on Strava, apparently I rode with 66 people, and they’ve all come in at 157-159km. I’m simply reporting the facts here so no need for another ‘nope’.

        

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       • Miller wrote:

         Okay…

         The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

         — Miller

         Nope, my three mates all clocked over 160km.

         — kevvjj

         Prompted by your brusque rebuttal I just looked at a random selection of RL rides on Strava, apparently I rode with 66 people, and they’ve all come in at 157-159km. I’m simply reporting the facts here so no need for another ‘nope’.

          

         — Miller

         Calm down dear, it’s only a bike ride.

         Perhaps they rode further than you. Perhaps in the scheme of things it really doesn’t matter. It’s supposed to be a bike ride not a GPS accuracy benchmarking test.

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8. Quote:

   Prompted by your brusque rebuttal I just looked at a random selection of RL rides on Strava, apparently I rode with 66 people, and they’ve all come in at 157-159km. I’m simply reporting the facts here so no need for another ‘nope’.

   You’re right – GPS under-reports the true distance because of the tunnels early on where it loses reception. Newer ones are better at clocking it correctly as the software will assume you followed the road on the map, older ones just draw a straight line between the point it lost reception and the point it picked it up again.

   But there’s about 2 miles of tunnel in total along the Limehouse section on the run out of Olympic Park.

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9. 99% of cyclists drive so the
   99% of cyclists drive so the road tax thing is stupid. I pay a combined tax rate of over £400 tax for my vehicles. Page is probably one of those paying £30 from the revenue which has been run through tax avoidance schemes like most ‘stars’

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   • Rick_Rude wrote:

     99% of cyclists drive so the road tax thing is stupid. I pay a combined tax rate of over £400 tax for my vehicles. Page is probably one of those paying £30 from the revenue which has been run through tax avoidance schemes like most ‘stars’

     — Rick_Rude

     Sorry to pick on your quote in particular, but as one of the 1% I dislike this line of argument. It doesn’t matter how much vehicle tax you pay when it comes to using the road. You’re basically saying the same thing as Page.

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   • road.cc wrote:

     The latest update to the UCI’s List of Approved Models of Frames and Forks features new versions of the TCR Advanced, TCR Advanced SL and TCR Advanced Pro…

     Giant last announced an update to the TCR platform in 2015 (the bikes were model year 2016), so we’re about due a redesign. 

     Model year 2021, though? We’re used to bikes breaking cover six months or so before the start of the relevant model year, but nearly a year and a half? That has to be some sort of record.

     Giant says it is a long way from being able to launch anything but needed to get designs rubber stamped before taking development any further. The designs could still be changed and require re-approval before anything is launched, so don’t expect to see the new Giant TCRs any time soon. 

     — road.cc

     Finally!

     Expect the new TCR Advanced SL (probably Disc version?) to be used at TdF 2020 and maybe unofficially launched there?

     I’ve had my keen eye on Giant’s TCR Advanced line for over a year, it’s well overdue based on their 3-year frame development cycle. (I’ve mentioned the 2020 model a few times in recent posts.) But I think that’s all had to change due to Trump’s trade war, subsequent closure of Far-East factories, although I’m sure there are lots of other influencing factors.

     Looking forward to the reviews next year. I don’t need another bike but a new TCR Pro could be worth waiting for and encourage me to review my bike portfolio in the meantime 🙂

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10. Back to the one tweet showing

    Back to the one tweet showing “a lot of riders complaining about the shortness”. The tweet replies states about the cut off at 11:20 and they are still complaining it is Ride Londons fault even though it clearly states it in the rider info web pages etc including stating minimal speeds which 2hours for 20 miles is definitely well below minimal speeds. 

    And I agree on the Limehouse Tunnel being a cause for loss of some distance as that tunnel curves considerably where the GPS will just straightline it from start to finish or just skip it altogether, hence the discrepencies. 

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11. Just checked the first three

    Just checked the first three cyckling buddies to appear in my strava feed, all clocked in at a hair UNDER the 100mile mark..  99.75, 98.14, 99.47.. 

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12. Mine came in just under 100

    Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

    Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

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    • d10brp wrote:

      Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

      Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

      — d10brp

       

      I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

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      • Judge dreadful wrote:

        Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

        Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

        — Judge dreadful

         

        I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

        — d10brp

         

        The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

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        • Jimmy Walnuts wrote:

          Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

          Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

          — Jimmy Walnuts

           

          I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

          — Judge dreadful

           

          The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

          — d10brp

           

          People struggling along is fine, we all start somewhere. People getting off their bike at the first hint of something above 1% have no place on this kind of ride.

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          • d10brp wrote:

            Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

            Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

            — d10brp

             

            I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

            — Jimmy Walnuts

             

            The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

            — Judge dreadful

             

            People struggling along is fine, we all start somewhere. People getting off their bike at the first hint of something above 1% have no place on this kind of ride.

            — d10brp

            Who says? You come a cross as a superior twat. Do you know those people? Do you have insight into their physical and mental well being? Perhaps some of them were simply trying to achieve something they thought they might never do, and, in honour of a friend, husband , wife who had mental illness/died of a stroke/heart attack/cancer. If you don’t like it that just anyone has access to this event that raises millions for charities every year, don’t enter in the first place.

          • kevvjj wrote:

            Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

            Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

            — kevvjj

             

            I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

            — d10brp

             

            The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

            — Jimmy Walnuts

             

            People struggling along is fine, we all start somewhere. People getting off their bike at the first hint of something above 1% have no place on this kind of ride.

            — Judge dreadful

            Who says? You come a cross as a superior twat. Do you know those people? Do you have insight into their physical and mental well being? Perhaps some of them were simply trying to achieve something they thought they might never do, and, in honour of a friend, husband , wife who had mental illness/died of a stroke/heart attack/cancer. If you don’t like it that just anyone has access to this event that raises millions for charities every year, don’t enter in the first place.

            — d10brp

             

            Gosh, charming. When you sign up for this they describe the kind of effort required and the expected minimum level of ability. There are challenges to suit all levels of ability, it is a very inclusive event. I was doing the ride for my daughter and other kids who have had to go through what she has and I am pleased at the amount I raised the that charity. But there is no point turning up to a bike ride with hills if you don’t want to even try and ride up a hill. Sure, some poeple will turn up and have an off day and end up walking some of it, but I’m not talking about those people, I’m talking about those who have no intention whatsoever of even trying. If you decided to take your place in the ride at the expense of 50,000 other worthy people who were not allocated a place, at least try and ride it.

          • d10brp wrote:

            If you decided to take your place in the ride at the expense of 50,000 other worthy people who were not allocated a place, at least try and ride it.

            — d10brp

            Ah, now I get it. They weren’t as worthy as you. Thanks for clearing that up.

            What category are you?

    • d10brp wrote:

      Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill.

      — d10brp

      And you were _still_ behind these interlopers at Newlands Corner? Sounds like you need to put more work in.

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    • d10brp wrote:

      Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

      Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can’t understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say “oh look I fell off again”. I don’t know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

      — d10brp

       

      I expect that most of the people walking up the hills are entering to raise money for charity and treating the ride as a personal challenge to themselves. Just be grateful that the hills were all fairly straight forward for your level of ability and fitness.

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13. My Garmin said I did 100.04

    My Garmin said I did 100.04 miles on the ride. I’ve got a speed sensor thing on my front wheel so guess it took better account of the tunnels? So as far as I was concerned, I did 100 miles. 🙂 (Though I also did 6 miles to the start and another 4 from the finish) 

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14. EP was just being a diva, and
    EP was just being a diva, and divas don’t walk anywhere.
    I’m sure she was just as rude to the traffic marshall when she didn’t get her own way.
    Just like Veruka Salt.
    Perhaps I’ll request a song on her dreadful radio show, bicycles race by Queen would fit the bill I think

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15. EP was just being a diva, and
    EP was just being a diva, and divas don’t walk anywhere.
    I’m sure she was just as rude to the traffic marshall when she didn’t get her own way.
    Just like Veruka Salt.
    Perhaps I’ll request a song on her dreadful radio show, bicycles race by Queen would fit the bill I think

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16. If only the IPCC could

    If only the IPCC could control those pesky volcanoes.

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17. Who the f*ck is Elaine Paige?

    Who the f*ck is Elaine Paige? Another has been, celebrity, who never even was a was been, with a voice that sounds like a constipated vicar having a sh1t after being forced to eat a copy of the koran – silly cow.

     

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18. Xena,

    Xena,

    Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

    Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax – check

    Vaccines?

    Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

    Chemtrails?

    EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

    911 false flag etc?

    Moon landings?

    Flat Earth?

    Lizard Overlords?

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    • Drinfinity wrote:

      Xena,

      Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

      It’s those pesky climate research scientists flying around in their private jets living the high life laughing at us all funded by the usual dark overlords:

      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/conspiracy-theory-jews-david-cameron-antisemitism-extremism

      Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax – check

      Vaccines?

      Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

      Chemtrails?

      EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

      911 false flag etc?

      Moon landings?

      Flat Earth?

      Lizard Overlords?

      — Drinfinity

      It’s those billionaire climate scientists again flying around in their private jets laughing at us all, while foing the evil deeds of the usual overload for such matters : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/conspiracy-theory-jews-david-cameron-antisemitism-extremism

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    • Drinfinity wrote:

      Xena,

      Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

      Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax – check

      Vaccines?

      Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

      Chemtrails?

      EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

      911 false flag etc?

      Moon landings?

      Flat Earth?

      Lizard Overlords?

      — Drinfinity

      Instead of sprouting shit ,read the links and then make an opinion ? Otherwise your the only one who’s talking conspiracy. Check the links . Get a education
      By the way the us paid out over 4 billion pounds to vaccine victims . Know your facts ,you obviously don’t https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/4-billion-and-growing-u-s-payouts-for-vaccine-injuries-and-deaths-keep-climbing/
      Ok , Facts not MSM bullshit shoved down your throat .

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      • Xena wrote:

        Xena,

        Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

        Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax – check

        Vaccines? Check 

        Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

        Chemtrails?

        EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

        911 false flag etc?

        Moon landings?

        Flat Earth?

        Lizard Overlords?

        — Xena Check the links . Get a education— Drinfinity

        Thanks again Xena, so we have ticked the first two on the list. Where do you stand on Electrosensitivity? Is WiFi harmful?

        I did ‘get a education’. DPhil in Organic Chemistry (specialising in interaction of small molecules with a particular human enzyme) and Postdoctoral Research Fellowship in a slightly obscure corner of quantum mechanics. So I do know a bit about the science here. Admittedly by years of lectures by leading academics, study, exams, long nights in the lab, rather than YouTube. But I’m probably just a bit old fashioned.

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        • Drinfinity wrote:

          Xena,

          Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

          Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax – check

          Vaccines? Check 

          Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

          Chemtrails?

          EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

          911 false flag etc?

          Moon landings?

          Flat Earth?

          Lizard Overlords?

          — Drinfinity

          Check the links . Get a education

          — Xena

          Thanks again Xena, so we have ticked the first two on the list. Where do you stand on Electrosensitivity? Is WiFi harmful?

          I did ‘get a education’. DPhil in Organic Chemistry (specialising in interaction of small molecules with a particular human enzyme) and Postdoctoral Research Fellowship in a slightly obscure corner of quantum mechanics. So I do know a bit about the science here. Admittedly by years of lectures by leading academics, study, exams, long nights in the lab, rather than YouTube. But I’m probably just a bit old fashioned.

          — Drinfinity

          exactly ,your wrong on the issues I have stated and put links up to . If you look at my links again you will also notice qualified scientists suing other qualified scientists for fraudulent use of date etc .

          Your  comment about your education is irrelevant when you have qualified people being fraudulent. its Facts that count . I’m sure your very smart but this is about facts . You for instance did not know the US paid over 4 billion dollars to vaccine victims . That’s my point the main stream media will very rarely point these things out . It’s about control. Think for yourself .

          You do realise there such things as books and doing research . That’s how a lot of people get a education. The links I posted just make it easy for the uneducated to learn what is going on.

          climate science for instance is very complicated . Where you retrieve your data for instance will have a great effect on temperature , city’s or from weather balloons “ height and the effects of the atmosphere. You get the point .  For instance Phil Jones altered the Data so his model would fit exactly what the IPCC wanted . Tony hall ( leading climate expert,fully qualified) was asked by the IPCC to post fraudulent date . He refuse to do this . You or anyone else can look the James Corbett IPCC exposed video and see his interview .  I’d also recommend James Corbetts how oil ruled the world . It’s a must see . No conspiracy just FACTs.

          There have been some issues with 5g some states in the us have not allowed it . Plenty of medical evidence from DR’s etc ,instead of me posting links why don’t you do your due diligence and look for yourself . Question everything. 

           

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19. Little aside, but still on

    Little aside, but still on RideLondon … anyone know what happened to Box Hill in early afternoon? I was in one of the last waves to set off, and there were a few holdups along the way but the (large) group I was in arrived at the roundabout just before Box to find it had just been closed inspite of us being well before the time cut off.

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    • Jetmans Dad wrote:

      Little aside, but still on RideLondon … anyone know what happened to Box Hill in early afternoon? I was in one of the last waves to set off, and there were a few holdups along the way but the (large) group I was in arrived at the roundabout just before Box to find it had just been closed inspite of us being well before the time cut off.

      — Jetmans Dad

      Not sure about Box Hill, but a couple who I know did the 100 and were diverted away from Leith Hill due to ‘congestion’ apparently.  This may have been the issue with Box Hill, and perhaps the reason for differing distances that people are reporting?

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20. Surprised there are no

    Surprised there are no comments on the Sellers response when confronted over a Ghost Bike. 

    “It got that colour from having furniture spray painted next to it”. They must have used a shit ton of paint to colour the whole bike both sides a consistent layer of white.

    But I think the worst one is : “Do you think it is worth more if it is a ghost bike” ??????? What the fuck ??????

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    • AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

      Surprised there are no comments on the Sellers response when confronted over a Ghost Bike. 

      “It got that colour from having furniture spray painted next to it”. They must have used a shit ton of paint to colour the whole bike both sides a consistent layer of white.

      But I think the worst one is : “Do you think it is worth more if it is a ghost bike” ??????? What the fuck ??????

      — AlsoSomniloquism

      Lots of people might not know what a ghost bike was: first time I heard the expression I had to google it.

      That said, if that’s the state the bike was in because someone was painting furniture nearby then I really wouldn’t want them decorating anywhere near my house!

      Nope – maybe the seller didn’t take it themselves, but someone further down the chain has (IMO) definitely seen a ghost bike and taken it away with them…

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21. Leith was busy when I go

    Leith was busy when I go there, I had to walk part of it as my blood glucose (diabetic) was going through the floor so ‘meh’ to the walking whinger who posted earlier.  I did read there was a nasty accident at the end of the Leith descent.  

    On Box there was also an accident on the descent that saw us corralled onto the other side of the road whilst first aid was being administered.  Quite a difficult descent with brakes on and the volume of cyclists funnelled into one side.  Not as free flowing as it should have been but hope those who were injured all make a speedy recovery

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    • Special_K148 wrote:

      Leith was busy when I go there, I had to walk part of it as my blood glucose (diabetic) was going through the floor so ‘meh’ to the walking whinger who posted earlier.  I did read there was a nasty accident at the end of the Leith descent.  

      On Box there was also an accident on the descent that saw us corralled onto the other side of the road whilst first aid was being administered.  Quite a difficult descent with brakes on and the volume of cyclists funnelled into one side.  Not as free flowing as it should have been but hope those who were injured all make a speedy recovery

      — Special_K148

      Special_K148 my comments were not aimed at those trying and struggling due to medical or other issues. Apologies if it came across that way.

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      • Special_K148 wrote:

        On Box there was also an accident on the descent that saw us corralled onto the other side of the road whilst first aid was being administered.  Quite a difficult descent with brakes on and the volume of cyclists funnelled into one side.  Not as free flowing as it should have been but hope those who were injured all make a speedy recovery

        — Special_K148

         

        That would explain it. As I say I was among quite a large group as we approached the roundabout and we were about 20-30 minutes inside the time cut-off, so if there had been an accident affecting the flow of riders on the descent it would make perfect sense to close the hill at that point rather than waiting until the cut-off … there were plenty more coming behind us so it could have been mayhem on there.

        Just a pity it made it the RideLondon 94 rather than 100. 

        Thoughts obviously with those involved in any accident, as with the young woman who went down on the plateau halfway down the Leith Hill descent not long before we came down there. That one looked pretty nasty. 

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      • d10brp wrote:

        Leith was busy when I go there, I had to walk part of it as my blood glucose (diabetic) was going through the floor so ‘meh’ to the walking whinger who posted earlier.  I did read there was a nasty accident at the end of the Leith descent.  

        On Box there was also an accident on the descent that saw us corralled onto the other side of the road whilst first aid was being administered.  Quite a difficult descent with brakes on and the volume of cyclists funnelled into one side.  Not as free flowing as it should have been but hope those who were injured all make a speedy recovery

        — d10brp Special_K148 my comments were not aimed at those trying and struggling due to medical or other issues. Apologies if it came across that way.— Special_K148

        My comments didn’t assume your intimate knowledge of the medical histories of everyone you saw pushing a bike up a hill. Apologies if it came across that way.

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        • srchar wrote:

          Leith was busy when I go there, I had to walk part of it as my blood glucose (diabetic) was going through the floor so ‘meh’ to the walking whinger who posted earlier.  I did read there was a nasty accident at the end of the Leith descent.  

          On Box there was also an accident on the descent that saw us corralled onto the other side of the road whilst first aid was being administered.  Quite a difficult descent with brakes on and the volume of cyclists funnelled into one side.  Not as free flowing as it should have been but hope those who were injured all make a speedy recovery

          — srchar

          Special_K148 my comments were not aimed at those trying and struggling due to medical or other issues. Apologies if it came across that way.

          — d10brp

          My comments didn’t assume your intimate knowledge of the medical histories of everyone you saw pushing a bike up a hill. Apologies if it came across that way.

          — Special_K148

          I think he was more intending to have a pop at those people starting out unfit/out-of-shape and wanting to do something about it.

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22. I think we need to get
    I think we need to get automation into the dictionary

    Definition : dispute between a driver and someone who is right.

    Looking forward to suggestions runners should be paying road tax at next years marathon.

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23. If it isn’t too late to put

    If it isn’t too late to put in my contribution. I was coming down Leith Hill by 9:30 and there was one guy injured (not seriously) at the end of the gorge. It is a spot I’ve seen delays at before, it is easy for anyone to get up to immense speeds (I hit 75kph again there this year) and get into trouble. There is a point to say that the climbing and descending is a challenge some people do take on more then they can handle. Not that this is a problem, apart from the fact they need to clear the road for the Pro-race. Leith Hill by the wall is very steep and very narrow people walking can cause a major bottleneck. I do wonder how much the organisers try to mix peoples abilities, sometimes leading to very keen riders getting boxed in and making bad moves.  I was on a dual carriage way section and a small club group came passed and each one cut across me to get to the left (no need on a closed road) narrowly passing my handlebars 3-4 times. It’s often said ‘it’s not a race’ but it is a mass timetrail, a timed event, akin to the London Marathon. It might not have team cars or a ‘winner’ but the people doing it in 4 hours are in a very different event from those doing it in 9.

    Having said that it was a smashing event, and I was really pleased with the weather. Found myself coasting up an incline 500/600m long at 55kph that previously had to pedal along at about 35. Dry makes a big different. Did it in 05:07:07, but had to stop twice to pee and feed and once for a splash of water, 5h road time, but the watch doesn’t lie. Will just have to go again and hope my bike and body and the weather all align.

    Thanks to the RAF for a massive tow from Blackwall to Richmond Park [lesson learned, don’t let gaps appear.] 

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24. If facts are so important to

    If facts are so important to you, could you please tell me how many people died of smallpox last year?

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25. Whilst I do like Jim Al

    Whilst I do like Jim Al-Khalili, enjoy his work with the BBC and am interested in his research on quantum biology, I did object to the lack of mention of the bicycle in the development of the motor car.  The creation of good roads, pneumatic tyres, brake blocks and drivechains, were all I believe part of the evolution of the bicycle.  It encouraged movement between villages, may have led to the elimination of “the village idiot” and greatly encouraged female emancipation.  The bicycle has always been much more affordable than the motor car, with the motorcycle being in there as well, and was a much greater form of personal transport well into the mid to late 20th century.

    The bicycle was mentioned in a previous episode, mainly due to the wright brothers being bicycle manufactures and retailers, and for them testing aerofoil design on a bicycle as a portable “wind tunnel”

    But as it was all on the BBC it must have all been lies.

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    • ktache wrote:

      Whilst I do like Jim Al-Khalili, enjoy his work with the BBC and am interested in his research on quantum biology, I did object to the lack of mention of the bicycle in the development of the motor car.  The creation of good roads, brake blocks and drivechains, were all I believe part of the evolution of the bicycle.  It encouraged movement between villages, may have led to the elimination of “the village idiot” and greatly encouraged female emancipation.  The bicycle has always been much more affordable than the motor car, with the motorcycle being in there as well, and was a much greater form of personal transport well into the mid to late 20th century.

      The bicycle was mentioned in a previous episode, mainly due to the wright brothers being bicycle manufactures and retailers, and for them testing aerofoil design on a bicycle as a portable “wind tunnel”

      But as it was all on the BBC it must have all been lies.

      — ktache

      The BBC do seem to hate bicycles, don’t they? (Downloading the first 3 episodes of that now)

      I remember something about Adolf Hitler changing the wheels on a monument to the first automobile as it had bicycle wheels and Adolf hated bikes since his WW1 days as a bicycle courier (probably from https://roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/ ).

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      • hawkinspeter wrote:

        The BBC do seem to hate bicycles, don’t they? (Downloading the first 3 episodes of that now)

        I remember something about Adolf Hitler changing the wheels on a monument to the first automobile as it had bicycle wheels and Adolf hated bikes since his WW1 days as a bicycle courier (probably from https://roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/ ).

        — hawkinspeter

        that probably explains the increasing size and aggressive design of the modern motor car, driven by anti-cycling Nazis, as it evolves towards becoming a Panzer.

         

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26. I might not have gone quite

    I might not have gone quite that far HP, they have been showing their excellent history of Raleigh on BBC4 recently.

    Though that does miss out the excellent Barry Clarke and his mountain bike winning ways, one year on a Ti hardtail, a version of which is still my good bike.

    Oh, and I understand ball bearings were developed for the bicycle, as reducing friction on a human powered vehicle is so much more important than chemically propelled.

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    • ktache wrote:

      … they have been showing their excellent history of Raleigh on BBC4 recently.

      — ktache

      Was that any good / worth watching on iPlayer?  I noticed it was on, about half way through… 

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27. https://xkcd.com/966/

    https://xkcd.com/966/

     

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28. YouTube videos don’t really

    YouTube videos don’t really have references, well written science does, my bedtime reading has 50 pages of references in its Notes, in tiny writing.  While I may not believe some of the opinions given, I can at least look up the original work on which those opinions are based.

    Wikipedia has references, YouTube less.  Which to believe?

    Or maybe Wiki is MSM and part of the conspiracy too.

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29. It is worth a watch, I have

    It is worth a watch, I have seen all/some of it whenever it has been on.

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30. The problem with conspiracy

    The problem with conspiracy theories is that they are so much more exciting than rational interpretation of the facts available. Car keys gone missing: Space aliens? gremlins? supernatural vodoo or you just didn’t look hard enough in the first place?

    Then there is the one sided game of – I’ll say something that sounds crazy, throw in a few links to other crazy people saying crazy stuff and challenge you to prove otherwise. Your counter argument becomes a carefully researched work worthy of a degree thesis at which point I will simply reject all your so called “facts”, point blank refuse to recognise your interpretation of evidence, find some minor point that you didn’t get round to answering as proof that my wacky hypothesis must be right, throw in a few strawman arguments and present my opinion based on some youtube videos as being equal to your recognised sources of authority.

    Moon landing conspiracists are my personal favourite (no politics, no religious dogma). Every single one of their claims from shadow angles to radiation belts to faked photos to the flag pole flapping can be utterly debunked in phraseology that pretty much anyone can understand. Proven absurd and yet they still keep coming back with the same crap. Follow the money and you see how many of them make a tidy living from gulling the credulous.

    Of course, all conspiracy theories are created by ‘THEM’ to keep our attention directed away from the real truth.

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31. Lol.
    Lol.

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32. Not the younglings…

    Not the younglings…

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      Not the younglings…

      — ktache

      Unfortunately this comment looks a bit weird now, ktache: looks like my comment quoting BTBS and Obi-Wan got disappeared..,

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33. Thanks Xena, so that’s 1,2

    Thanks Xena, so that’s 1,2 and 3 on my list. Where do you stand on Chemtrails?

    So far BTBS is ahead here, having ruled out only Lizards.

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34. Did BTBS get taken down for
    Did BTBS get taken down for the anti-semitic remark?

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    • Mungecrundle wrote:

      Did BTBS get taken down for the anti-semitic remark?

      — Mungecrundle

      He’s with Super Python now. RIP.

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35. But  “Not the younglings…”

    But  “Not the younglings…” is always funny.

    The thread went weird, both of the obvious are still on this and on other threads, something was said, and chunks just disappeared.

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    • ktache wrote:

      But  “Not the younglings…” is always funny.

      The thread went weird, both of the obvious are still on this and on other threads, something was said, and chunks just disappeared.

      — ktache

      Agree it went weird.

      Xena and their nutjob conspiracies (climate change denial etc) wound up a lot of people, myself included, and appeared to push BTBS over the edge (on a particular issue).

      But, as you say, only certain posts have been filleted- neither user appears to have been actually banned, and their other posts remain up.

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36. It’s a conspiracy I tells ya!
    It’s a conspiracy I tells ya!

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