Live blog: Friends of Richmond Park rethink cyclist/deer comment; “We broke his f**king hour record didn’t we?” Victor Campenaerts puzzled by Wiggo suggestion; Memo to Clarkson: London cycleway will actually result in MORE trees; Polite notice +more
SUMMARY
Holland Park Avenue cycleway will result in MORE trees in the area, not fewer
Yesterday, Jeremy Clarkson was among those suggesting that a planned cycleway on Holland Park Avenue in London would see a number of trees chopped down.
A lot of people think this. There’s a ‘save the trees’ petition on change.org.
London’s cycling commissioner, Will Norman, concedes that two big trees will be chopped down – “neither in good condition” – but says that more trees will be planted than will be taken out.
So much #fakenews about Holland Park Ave. WE ARE NOT REMOVING ALL THE TREES. 2 big trees, neither in a good condition, are proposed to be taken out, along with a small number of small trees at Notting Hill Gate. WE’LL PLANT MORE NEW TREES IN THE AREA THAN WE TAKE OUT. pic.twitter.com/ZBnzkkwKS3
— Will Norman (@willnorman) May 22, 2019
Then there’s the whole ‘making the area a bit safer’ aspect on top of that.
There were 128 collisions in last 3 years on this stretch of road. It is dangerous for people walking & cycling. Our plans make busy roads easier & safer to cross, remove through traffic on some residential roads and provide a space for people to cycle in safety. pic.twitter.com/rKRjRJbEHX
— Will Norman (@willnorman) May 22, 2019
Ultracyclist problems
After 3 weeks of dedication to nutrition, I have finally hit fighting weight; 75.5kg. It’s been hard at times, but I’ve managed to put on 4kg! #ultracyclistproblems
— James Hayden (@JamesMarkHayden) May 23, 2019
Dutch rush hour, part 59
Peak hour urban traffic does not have to be dismal.
It can be relaxing and smooth, even with high intensities.
As long as it is human-powered!(~Utrecht by @Streetfilms)pic.twitter.com/5PohWbcSUO
— Cycling Professor (@fietsprofessor) May 22, 2019
Stu Hayes deer crash in Richmond Park - broken pelvis
Bike is fine which is why my pelvis is broken, I think the deer would be in a lot of pain
— MAGIC STU (@StuHayes13) May 22, 2019
We reported on yesterday’s live blog that the triathlete, who competed in the 2012 Olympics, had an unfortunate collision with a deer on Tuesday evening (we’ve already done all the deer puns) and unfortunately it’s resulted in a broken pelvis for Hayes. We’re not sure on the condition of the bike or the deer, but we’re wishing Stuart a speedy recovery.
Today's Giro d'Italia stage is slightly more interesting
Stage 12 | Tappa 12
23 May | 23 maggio
Cuneo – Pinerolo
158 km
Start: 1.10 PM CEST
Finish: 5.15 PM ca CEST
https://t.co/uas5SGJsWD#Giro pic.twitter.com/SOzzOTeXnh— Giro d’Italia (@giroditalia) May 23, 2019
New shorts for indoor cycling
File this one under what will they think of next, as Primal Europe has launched “turbo trainer optimised shorts” with its new eSport Bib Short. Check them out in detail here
Good enough for Peter Sagan...
…but good enough for our David? He’s been getting to grips with Sportful’s new Bomber 111 Suit, an aero one-piece garment that helped Peter Sagan to win Paris-Roubaix last year. But will it make David faster? Find out here.
Ted King on racing Belgian Waffle Ride
Here’s a pretty interesting and entertaining video by ex-pro Ted King, now gravel racer and brand ambassador, in preparing for and racing in the recent Belgian Waffle Ride, a 217km race over dirt, gravel, single-track, steep bergs, long climbs, creek crossings, and unrelenting head-winds according to the organisers.
All Tramadol tests negative since painkiller was banned in March
Painkiller had been blamed for crashes in the peloton.
Giro d'Italia marks 70th anniversary of perhaps its greatest ever stage
Today’s Stage 12 of the Giro d’Italia starts in Cuneo and finishes in Pinerolo …. as did, 70 years ago, the most famous one in the race’s history, whenn Fausto Coppi rode away to take the stage and, ultimately, the overall.
This piece on Eurosport by Felix Lowe – aka the TV channel’s cyling blogger, Blazing Saddles – is well worth a read.
... and a somewhat less polite one
Polite notice ...
Campenaerts unimpressed by Wiggins' suggestions that a move to Team Ineos would be beneficial, saying "well we broke his f**king hour record didn't we?"
On Wiggins’ latest podcast, he claimed that Victor Campenaerts would be better off moving to a team like Ineos from Lotto Soudal to get the best out of himself. Wiggins said: “He’s in a Belgian team, the biggest Belgian team (Lotto Soudal, although we’d argue Deceuninck-Quick Step might dispute that) that’s still acting like it’s 1974.
“If he went to Sky (meaning Team Ineos), he’d see the difference. What will happen is that they will offer him loads of money, he’ll sign for three years and he’ll stay there. It’s like you could be so much more, Victor!”
In an interview with Sporza yesterday, Campenaerts admitted he was puzzled by Wiggins’ comments, particularly as he’s yet to sign anything for next season with Lotto Soudal:
“I don’t know anything about this, I’ll have to discuss that with John (Lelangue, the team manager).”
“Well, I’ve obviously just read and seen it, what can I say. He doesn’t seem to understand the workings of our team. We’ve fucking broke his hour record haven’t we?
“They (Lotto Soudal) might appear to be more like a traditional team, however there’s a lot of progress been made when it comes to time trials. Since I’ve arrived and with Kevin de Weert we’ve made big advances. Not only for me but for the whole team and the hour record is proof of this.
The interviewer then asked Campenaerts specifically what he thought of Wiggins’ belief that he has more success in him: “I hope that this is effectively true and I’ll try to get more out of myself. But I think that what I’ve shown thus far has been very promising. If you compare this to the other riders, with the exception of Roglič, it’s been good. And performing like this I can see myself winning against him.”
Campenaerts added that there would be time for contract talks later in the year, and for now he’s simply focussed on the upcoming Giro d’Italia time trial in Verona.
*A huge thanks to Dutch-speaking road.cc readers Jeroen Geut and Elmar Becker for translating the Sporza interview for us!
Video: Trailer for cycling-themed black comedy The Climb + the original short film
The film has been getting positive reviews at Cannes Film Festival.
A few sprinters dropped out of the Giro today
We've waited 12 days… but finally we're in the mountain! #Giro102 pic.twitter.com/BcJst9Delx
— Eurosport UK (@Eurosport_UK) May 23, 2019
New Ritchey Swiss Cross arrives for testing
We’ve taken to revealing our latest test bikes to land in the office over on Instagram, and the latest bike to be shared is this beauty.
It’s the latest Ritchey Swiss Cross, a classic steel cyclocross race bike which celebrates its 25th birthday and has a number of modernising changes, namely bigger 40mm tyre clearance, flat mount disc brakes and a more relaxed geometry.
Couriers who deliver blood and pathology samples striking over stagnant wages and previous pay cuts
They’ve accused executives and investors of ‘getting fat off NHS contracts’ at their expense.
Jesse Norman no longer a cycling minister
Absolutely delighted to have been appointed Financial Secretary and Paymaster General @hmtreasury. All the more so since it’s 237 years and two months since Edmund Burke was made Paymaster General! 1/
— Jesse Norman (@Jesse_Norman) May 23, 2019
Norman has just been appointed Financial Secretary and Paymaster General for the Treasury. He also said: I have to admit I’m also really sad to be leaving @transportgovuk. So many good people, and so much good work done and to come on road safety, cycling and walking, decarbonisation/Road to Zero, electric vehicles/Future of Mobility, e-cargo bikes, light rail… thank you all.”
Friends of Richmond Park rewrite ‘cyclist learns the hard way’ link to story about Stuart Hayes’ collision with a deer
On yesterday’s live blog, we reported how Olympian Stuart Hayes had been hit by a deer in Richmond Park.
Further down this page, we revealed that the triathlete suffered a broken pelvis in the collision.
Friends of Richmond Park initially reported the incident as, “cyclist learns the hard way that deer are wild animals and therefore unpredictable.”
Very, disappointed that, after someone shatters his pelvis in an accident in #RichmondPark, @FRPTweets describes it as ‘cyclist learns the hard way’.
I can’t quite believe that a body devoted to the enjoyment of the park is quite so callous. pic.twitter.com/FaC9PYFN8O
— Tim Lennon (@lucullus) May 23, 2019
They’ve since had a rethink and edited that.
Giro d'Italia Stage 12: Hail, Cesare!
Benedetti takes win for Bora-Hansgrohe.
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I think using AI is a cop out, surely there are better ways of designing posters... like using real images and real people... In the case of cycling clubs using AI why can't someone in the club design the poster/image? AI is getting out of control and if not controlled it will be the death of creative industries. It's up to us at ground root level to try to stem this
@Hollis Jones or none at all. Indeed quite possibly it would never have been solved (and without any witnesses you wonder how it would - tracing bits of the car?). Even if it had come to court there have been a fair few previous "we know you were driving, we know your car hit them" cases where no conviction was achieved. This one is pretty unusual.
@matthewn5 Exactly the sort of comment that drivers will use to propagate the idea that all cyclists are entitled and irresponsible on the roads. Well done 👍
@Rendel Harris Ah yes, got it. Seems pretty obvious to me now you explained it so clearly! So I suppose, then, if they hadn’t been able to prove that he got out of the car to try and remove Mr Mullins from underneath, he could well have got a much lighter sentence. It begs the question why, given he’s clearly a sociopath, that even if he knew he was trapped under the car, he could have just ignored it.
@HarrogateSpa could be. With some Labour / other socialist types I think it's: a) a historic reaction to the toff and/or mill owner and their horse-enhanced status. So "we'll damn well have cars also". ("Fairness", I guess). b) (partly related) many working people rely on their vehicles for work (or to get there). So "we'll fight anything that looks like them taking our independence". Of course I think excellent arguments against motor traffic dependence could be made for most political persuasions - but unfortunately it also seems that those for the status quo can also.
@kingleo but according to some posters here aren't those terrible places marred by very high cyclist fatality numbers, dreadful driving conditions, rampant drug use and (inevitably) "communism"? ("non-countries" eh Nige?) One major difference, which perhaps doesn't get enough attention, is that in NL they went through a process of deciding what all streets and roads were primarily "for". Then re-designating and indeed redesigning them and re-engineering the network to "make it so". "Monofunctional roads/streets". That means that it's much clearer where cycle infra is *required*, and where less obvious measures will do. That *would* be a major change for the UK. Our process has been that motor traffic appeared on streets which used to be foot / horse / carriage / cycle. We then had to add footways as it became clear the motor traffic was a danger (also as drivers demanded "their" streets). Then as the traffic got bigger / faster / volumes increased those non-vehicle spaces shrank... So now we commonly have a "high street" which is 1) a "place" or destination (so people want to drive and park there, but then will walk about) 2) maybe also a residential location 3) a major through route. And everyone complaining "our streets are too narrow to accommodate cycling".
@Rendel Harris Hold out for a Halfords Apollo* at least. * I did once own one. I bought it in skinter days to replace a Rudge 3-speed that I found in a scrapyard. Guess which one lasted me 4 years and which one lasted me 4 months.
@Mr Blackbird isn't it "this pub survived two World Wars, but will be destroyed by this ludicrous, dangerous cycle lane, which nobody wants and which will only be used by illegal immigrants riding unlicensed electric motorbikes..." ?
@Mr Blackbird The report on this case is on page 19 of today's Times. Maybe the more right wing rags didn't bother at all? It was on the BBC News website yesterday, but was not featured on this morning's Breakfast News.
19 thoughts on “Live blog: Friends of Richmond Park rethink cyclist/deer comment; “We broke his f**king hour record didn’t we?” Victor Campenaerts puzzled by Wiggo suggestion; Memo to Clarkson: London cycleway will actually result in MORE trees; Polite notice +more”
And in other news, Clarkson
And in other news, Clarkson can’t see the wood for the trees.
Brad is being paid
Brad is being paid (presumably a lot) to talk a lot, some will be good and some bollocks.
However, the hour record isn’t particularly a race, it’s not a team thing!
On the other hand, moving to Ineos isn’t neccessarily going to help him either, the rider needs to know the team ambitions align to their own…
alansmurphy wrote:
I listened to the podcast earlier and Wiggins was talking in terms of the attention to detail that Sky showed when he was racing with them – he said that VC’s road bike being in 53×11 and the lack of help from the mechanic cost him the time trial stage, this wouldn’t have happened at a better organised team.
Seemed like a pretty valid point.
“Norman has just been
“Norman has just been appointed Financial Secretary and Paymaster General for the Treasury. He also said: I have to admit I’m also really sad to be leaving @transportgovuk. So many good people, and so much good work done and to come on road safety, cycling and walking, decarbonisation/Road to Zero, electric vehicles/Future of Mobility, e-cargo bikes, light rail… thank you all.””
While I’m sure there must be some tories who aren’t self-deluded, offhand, I can’t think of any.
burtthebike wrote:
I’m just glad that he completed the traffic offences review that was sorely needed.
We beat your fucking hour
We beat your fucking hour record … only by doing it at altitude yah spikey prat, and even then you still couldn’t manage to beat Boardman nor even Rominger’s distance, oh and if you knew anything about BW’s attempt you’d have noticed he wasn’t all out, you don’t claimb off the bike the way Wiggins did when you’re totally spent, ask Chris Boardman about that when he did his.
Please, people-if there’s an
Please, people-if there’s an unrestrained animal or child who could possibly cross your path under any circumstances,slow to a walking pace.Stop if necessary.It’s not rocket science.
Argus Tuft wrote:
OTOH…
HC Rule 56: Dogs.
Do not let a dog out on the road on its own. Keep it on a short lead when walking on the pavement, road or path shared with cyclists or horse riders.
(Admittedly, I don’t think anyone’s taught the HC to wild animals. Yet.)
Argus Tuft wrote:
Please, people, stop offering unasked-for advice to strangers. Particularly don’t do it based on one incident involving serious injury to someone who likely isn’t even reading the thread anyway and where we don’t know for sure to what degree he was aware of the deer and who quite likely just made a mistake as fallible humans can do occasionally. Such unsolicited advice comes over as condescending and a form of self-praise on the part of the person giving it.
I don’t see the point in after-the-event advice that boils down to ‘in future, don’t make mistakes’. Like a family member’s invariable comment whenever I mislay anything ‘in future always remember where you put things’.
FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:
The chap in question doesn’t need my advice.He learned the hard way!
The “Friends” of Richmond
The “Friends” of Richmond Park have always been utter scum.
After the tamsin trail was built they decided they hated cyclists and wanted to ban them from it, until it was pointed out it was funded with cycling money and they would have to pay every penny back. They shut their trap suddenly.
Has anyone read the FoRP feed
Has anyone read the FoRP feed, full of the usual anti-cyclist bile from NIMBY’s. According to the posters all cyclists exceed the 20mph limit but no mention of cars. Hmmmm!
Gus T wrote:
Plenty of mentions of cars now.
Has anyone read the FoRP feed
Has anyone read the FoRP feed, full of the usual anti-cyclist bile from NIMBY’s. According to the posters all cyclists exceed the 20mph limit but no mention of cars. Hmmmm!
Whoops – double post
So FoRP edited, did Fb tell
So FoRP edited, did Fb tell them off for hate speech? I flagged it for that.
Don’t read their Fb comments it’s all speed limits, road tax, the usual stuff from Chelsea tractor drivers walking their Fentons, scaring the deer into the roads.
I’m going to climb down from
I’m going to climb down from my high horse.I’ve been wandering around trying to think of the last really stupid thing I did on a bike.I’d completely forgotten about it.
Three years ago I was steaming downhill through long grass on my new hardtail when the front wheel dropped into an axle deep hole.I was thrown through the air and landed on my head, knocking me unconscious,tearing some neck muscles in the process.As close to becoming a paraplegic as I’d like to come.If a 60 something rider with a lifetime of experience (albeit very little on a MTB)can make such an obvious mistake-you know the rest.I wish the young rider concerned a complete recovery,and apologise for being judgemental.
I’ve NEVER again ridden fast when unable to see the ground.
So-Please,people-be extra careful when riding through long grass!
Argus Tuft wrote:
Please, people. Be careful when climbing down from a high horse.
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Well, gosh, I bet the Govt’s going to be in a real hurry to appoint someone else in his place…
Mungey,You’ve made my night.I
Mungey,You’ve made my night.I’m still chuckling.Cheers