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mattw 2 hours ago
I thought Laura did well, and capped the bullshit firehose effectively - especially as she had never had an attempted mugging from a far-right shock-jock before. Her "the Netherlands was not the Netherlands in the 1970s" is a genius point, which I will remember. She could have added "Why do you want to live in a Carry On film" if she wanted to put JHB back in her hot air balloon.. But nonetheless - enjoyable, even though personally I probably preferred Laura's debagging of Richard Madeley on Jeremy Vine iirc with sheer logic.
Zebra 2 hours ago
If a pro hits the deck wearing one of these and is uninjured apart from some road rash, will he or she be able to jump back on and keep riding? Or will it be necessary to wait and change into a new jersey / skinsuit? That could be a deciding factor for their use in elite races.
Terry Hutt 2 hours ago
My greatest fear is being struck from behind while cycling. If this demonstrably reduces injuries from such an attack, I want one. Anything that improves safety gets my support.
quiff 3 hours ago
As I think that poster liked to remind us, explosion in the hi-viz aisle of Decathlon is also a big risk for cyclists.
quiff 4 hours ago
@IanGlasgow indeed - my point was really just in answer to the reviewer's apparent surprise they didn't add discs - but the Kinetic kits show it actually requires quite a lot of change.
chrisonabike 4 hours ago
...And another one turning up on a bicycle to another former poster's soirée and then being hurt by his reaction?
chrisonabike 4 hours ago
8 dangerous mistakes that put riders in A&E - was one going on a ride with former(?) poster wheelywheely... and being run over on the pavement by a mob of cyclists riding furiously through a red light on the wrong side of the road ... and then having wheely's wheelchair fall on you?
Rendel Harris 4 hours ago
@ktache Just came here to say that, heard them too (watching on delay after work). Sounds a sensible approach and hopefully will stop the idiots, though there will doubtless always be some.
Rendel Harris 4 hours ago
@MaxiMinimalist Please don't dirty these pages up with cut and paste from AI, if your comment wasn't worth giving your own thought and effort to why is it worth inflicting it on anyone else? In this case, as MDF notes, it doesn't even answer the question you asked, let alone have anything to do with the article. One wonders if this is why your comments are so often absurdly phrased, tortuous word salads with only tangential relationships to the matter under discussion, do you just ask AI to write them for you? If so, please stop it.
IanGlasgow 5 hours ago
@GravelIsNothingNew Reporting poor driving in Scotland is much more difficult than in England. I've done it three times in more than a decade. It involves making a statement at a police station or arranging for them to visit you at home to take a statement. Then the chances of action being taken are almost nil. Apparently Scots law prevents them acting on an online report and an uploaded video and there appears to be no interest among Holyrood MSPs in changing that.
14 thoughts on “Live blog: Highlights of Tour de France team time trial + reaction, Wiggins defends Froome in Eurosport podcast, cyclist sets zebra crossing example + more”
A few years ago I stopped
A few years ago I stopped next to another cyclist at a zebra when a parent and 2 kids wanted to cross.
Driver just piled through, when I caught up with him to tell him he wasn’t far off mowing a 5 year old over, all he could say was that I shouldn’t have stopped next to the other cyclist.
hirsute wrote:
So essentially “I was being a dick because of cyclists!”
I wonder if you managed to keep a straight face!
KendalRed wrote:
I didn’t get very far ,as I was still quite angry at what could have happened and I that I would have felt partly responsible if the kid had started to cross and been hit.
I usually expect at least a
I usually expect at least a car maybe 2 to pile on through when I stop for zebra crossings,but that’s ridiculous amount of not paying attention by the motorists there
Awavey wrote:
Difficult to know what’s going on in people’s heads or what they’re taking in from their surroundings but some wheeled users seem to expect pedestrians to step out before they’ll consider stopping. Probably something you’d be reluctant to do with a pram/pushchair…
Maybe it’s part of the thinking – subconscious perhaps – that other road users’ safety isn’t your responsibility too (especially if it might delay your all-important journey by a few seconds).
A lot of London cyclists are bad for this mindset too – fortunately they’re less lethal.
Duncann wrote:
I can confirm that many more London drivers are worse for this mindset.
Some zebra crossings seem
Some zebra crossings seem worse than others- there is one by our office which frequently gets ignored. I think its because it comes just after a mini roundabout.
There are a few red lights on
There are a few traffic lights on my commute where I do not wish to be anywhere near them as they change to red, understanding that cars will barrel through both myself and the stopping power of the red light. If I do have to stop (always for a red) it will be as close to the kerb as possible.
There is one where I will wait, at some distance, until the light has changed and watch 2-3 cars (sometimes mind) accelerate through the red and only then do I join the queue.
A few weeks back, I saw a driver, 3 cars back in the queue, upon the first car stopping for the red, pull out and pass the 2 cars that had stopped and then breeze through the red at speed. Oh for a helmet cam or a big artic coming the other way. Or both…
ktache wrote:
I do the opposite, I approach lights already central in the lane further right than primary, if it’s one of those two into one jobs I’ll ride pretty much as far right so a motor can’t undertake me, I don’t want a close overtake through a set of lights nor someone trying to barge in from the right as we saw a month or so back.
On approach to zebras and can see peds nearby I’ll be bang in the middle of the lane to control things, shoulder check and slow to antipate and then stop. Never had issues doing this in the 20 years I’ve been taking this approach and I even do it on a main through road when I can see peds waiting to cross when there’s no crossing. Being assertive and good road position makes a huge amount of difference and from the stats being mown down from behind is extremely rare, pschologically this is very very difficult for a driver to do it even if they are a total cockwomble, yes you can’t account for the Gail Purcell type driver but again that’s incredibly rare, I’d feel less safe doing what you’re doing, it makes you more vulnerable IMHO.
Not defending the drivers who
Not defending the drivers who didnt stop to let the woman and baby cross but legally you dont need to stop at a zebra crossing unless a person has stepped on to it
Its just good manners to stop and allow someone to cross rather than wait till they have stepped on to the crossing
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-for-pedestrians-crossings.html
kev-s wrote:
What a stupid rule.
kev-s wrote:
True, and it is also illegal to overtake a vehicle in the zig-zag line area.
#bloodycyclists
#bloodycyclists #bloodyredlightjumpingcyclists
The regulations for this
The regulations for this changed in 1997. Road users are required to afford priority to those who are actually on the crossing, not those waiting to cross. Stopping for the pedestrian in these circumstances would be a driving test fail.
Overtaking within zig-zags only applies to an overtake on a motor vehicle, not a cyclist. It’s not an opinion it’s the 1997 ped. crossing regs.