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Live blog: Highlights of Tour de France team time trial + reaction, Wiggins defends Froome in Eurosport podcast, cyclist sets zebra crossing example + more
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Mon, Jul 09, 2018 14:25
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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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ktache 4 hours ago
@Mr Blackbird It's quite a skill.
chrisonabike 4 hours ago
@Terry Hutt good point, although while doing testing without a helmet I broke my shoulder and have suffered various other contusions. So I suggest the control should not be "no helmet" as in my experience that adds the confounding variable of your other limbs and appendages as (for some) instinct will mean you sacrifice them to protect your head...
chrisonabike 5 hours ago
@mdavidford or the highly skilled cycle football / radball players...
chrisonabike 5 hours ago
@No Reply dunno about childish, but I haven't heard that one since the 90s. Can't say I miss it.
mdavidford 5 hours ago
Bit harsh on the BMXers.
mdavidford 5 hours ago
@No Reply Er, nope - there are no age restrictions on the site. As previously noted, though, if it were restricted to adults, your choice of language would seem to mark you out as someone who shouldn't be on it.
No Reply 6 hours ago
@Mr Blackbird This is an adult forum. If adults are getting so worked up over the term bum chum, then they need to get a grip. People have a right to be offended, people have a right to offend. But if someone finds offence in something, it doesn’t mean its offensive. It means they are offended. Two different things. I am as free to offend as you are to feel offended. Freedom of speech. Do you want to silence freedom of speech? Or just silence things you don’t like?
Mr Blackbird 6 hours ago
@No Reply You obviously have a lot of knowledge of cyclo cross and make a valid point, but why detract from your comment by using a phrase that is probably offensive to the majority of readers?
Terry Hutt 7 hours ago
@chrisonabike I think the important message here is that your head will fly 20% further if you are wearing a collapsible helmet. Has anyone researched how far your head will fly if you're not wearing a helmet at all? Seems worthy of a research grant.
Mr Blackbird 7 hours ago
Any cyclist caught cycling backwards (on a non-fixed wheel bike) should be jailed for at least 2 years and have their bike confiscated. Such a despicable manoeuvre is dangerously confusing to motorists and pedestrians.
14 thoughts on “Live blog: Highlights of Tour de France team time trial + reaction, Wiggins defends Froome in Eurosport podcast, cyclist sets zebra crossing example + more”
A few years ago I stopped
A few years ago I stopped next to another cyclist at a zebra when a parent and 2 kids wanted to cross.
Driver just piled through, when I caught up with him to tell him he wasn’t far off mowing a 5 year old over, all he could say was that I shouldn’t have stopped next to the other cyclist.
hirsute wrote:
So essentially “I was being a dick because of cyclists!”
I wonder if you managed to keep a straight face!
KendalRed wrote:
I didn’t get very far ,as I was still quite angry at what could have happened and I that I would have felt partly responsible if the kid had started to cross and been hit.
I usually expect at least a
I usually expect at least a car maybe 2 to pile on through when I stop for zebra crossings,but that’s ridiculous amount of not paying attention by the motorists there
Awavey wrote:
Difficult to know what’s going on in people’s heads or what they’re taking in from their surroundings but some wheeled users seem to expect pedestrians to step out before they’ll consider stopping. Probably something you’d be reluctant to do with a pram/pushchair…
Maybe it’s part of the thinking – subconscious perhaps – that other road users’ safety isn’t your responsibility too (especially if it might delay your all-important journey by a few seconds).
A lot of London cyclists are bad for this mindset too – fortunately they’re less lethal.
Duncann wrote:
I can confirm that many more London drivers are worse for this mindset.
Some zebra crossings seem
Some zebra crossings seem worse than others- there is one by our office which frequently gets ignored. I think its because it comes just after a mini roundabout.
There are a few red lights on
There are a few traffic lights on my commute where I do not wish to be anywhere near them as they change to red, understanding that cars will barrel through both myself and the stopping power of the red light. If I do have to stop (always for a red) it will be as close to the kerb as possible.
There is one where I will wait, at some distance, until the light has changed and watch 2-3 cars (sometimes mind) accelerate through the red and only then do I join the queue.
A few weeks back, I saw a driver, 3 cars back in the queue, upon the first car stopping for the red, pull out and pass the 2 cars that had stopped and then breeze through the red at speed. Oh for a helmet cam or a big artic coming the other way. Or both…
ktache wrote:
I do the opposite, I approach lights already central in the lane further right than primary, if it’s one of those two into one jobs I’ll ride pretty much as far right so a motor can’t undertake me, I don’t want a close overtake through a set of lights nor someone trying to barge in from the right as we saw a month or so back.
On approach to zebras and can see peds nearby I’ll be bang in the middle of the lane to control things, shoulder check and slow to antipate and then stop. Never had issues doing this in the 20 years I’ve been taking this approach and I even do it on a main through road when I can see peds waiting to cross when there’s no crossing. Being assertive and good road position makes a huge amount of difference and from the stats being mown down from behind is extremely rare, pschologically this is very very difficult for a driver to do it even if they are a total cockwomble, yes you can’t account for the Gail Purcell type driver but again that’s incredibly rare, I’d feel less safe doing what you’re doing, it makes you more vulnerable IMHO.
Not defending the drivers who
Not defending the drivers who didnt stop to let the woman and baby cross but legally you dont need to stop at a zebra crossing unless a person has stepped on to it
Its just good manners to stop and allow someone to cross rather than wait till they have stepped on to the crossing
https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-for-pedestrians-crossings.html
kev-s wrote:
What a stupid rule.
kev-s wrote:
True, and it is also illegal to overtake a vehicle in the zig-zag line area.
#bloodycyclists
#bloodycyclists #bloodyredlightjumpingcyclists
The regulations for this
The regulations for this changed in 1997. Road users are required to afford priority to those who are actually on the crossing, not those waiting to cross. Stopping for the pedestrian in these circumstances would be a driving test fail.
Overtaking within zig-zags only applies to an overtake on a motor vehicle, not a cyclist. It’s not an opinion it’s the 1997 ped. crossing regs.