Live blog: Olympic track champ Kristina Vogel airlifted to hospital after serious crash, big news on the way for Greater Manchester cyclists + more
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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
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Astralstroll 55 minutes ago
So ' Priority of Road Users' and 1.5 metre clearance at 30mph has been been reduced to 'sharing'? NCN route 2 here in South Hams is an absolute scream with white vans, tractors and total idiots who refuse,or are totally incapable,to reverse on high Devon banked lanes ...means you have to get off and pedal back to a passing place....could be at that all day...so I don't bother...
Mr Anderson 2 hours ago
@MaxiMinimalist Agreed. The big problem I see now is today's parents grew up being driven to their schools, and therefore, see private motor vehicles as the only viable form of transport. The vast majority of UK infant and primary schools have a catchment area that is within easy walking distance from home to school. Yet, the traffic caused by pupils being driven to/from school is astonishing. Banishing the "School Run" should be a priority for all schools.
MaxiMinimalist 3 hours ago
When I was a kid (that was during the previous millenium when phones were connected to a plug in the wall), I rode my bicycle to school, music academy, sport grounds, parties even during the winter. The government didn't have to spend, correct that, didn't have to think of spending massive amounts of money to build cycling specific infrastructures. Over the past 3 or 4 decades, cars have grown bigger, taller, safer (for their drivers) and faster. Meanwhile, motorists have become abusive, aggressive, hypersensitive to people moving on two wheels, aka cyclists. Spending billions upon billions on new infrastructure won't address the crux of the matter. Sadly.
Paul J 3 hours ago
Obree had some actual talent in his legs though, in addition to his bike/aero engineering talent.
Maruis Kalchev 3 hours ago
Малко като опит за доказване е излязло... Никой няма нужда от толкова голям въртящ момент и мощност на шосеен велосипед с тънки гуми, които дори трудно ще предават тази мощност върху пътя. А ако има и ограничение от 25 км/час е още по-безмислено.
mdavidford 3 hours ago
Not sure how informative that is. I imagine for all most of us know it could be Europe's only 'volumetric modular building'. 🤷♂️
chrisonabike 3 hours ago
Yes, but they're copying the adults of today...
chrisonabike 3 hours ago
Indeed - but alas I think this is an effective argument for very few folks indeed. As for push-back, what else could we expect *? I think there are ways of selling this but we're far more likely to see headlines about the problems, while the successes are relegated to footnotes, because at that point it just works and there's nothing to see... * Given that this time there aren't politicians being persuaded to overlook thousands of deaths and the demolition of property by the billions from the motoring trades (and the excitement of being able to drive out with the bright things for a party at a roadhouse). Nor are we as tolerant of "accidents". (And noting that publicity about the cases of a handful of people killed by cyclists continues to reach the media; deaths related to motor vehicles not so much).
mdavidford 3 hours ago
That rather ignores that the children of today are the adults of tomorrow.
fwhite181 3 hours ago
@belugabob Arguably it's easier this way - we don't actually need to do anything to the streets except stop drivers driving down every scrap of tarmac. Where I live, a few well-placed bollards would make walking/cycling/scooting the quicker option and safer, while maintaining 100% vehicular access - just not allowing through routes in every direction.
13 thoughts on “Live blog: Olympic track champ Kristina Vogel airlifted to hospital after serious crash, big news on the way for Greater Manchester cyclists + more”
Interesting development in
Interesting development in Melbourne. Are the Aussies finally waking up to the disaster of their anti-cycling policies of the past thirty years?
burtthebike wrote:
All those drivers who look like they’re either really upset or have hayfever… Seems to me that if Australian drivers didn’t seem so keen to run down cyclists (in every sense of the expression) then their authorities wouldn’t have seen the need to put this experimental (for Oz) roundabout layout in.
burtthebike wrote:
Nope, you only have to listen to the old ‘they don’t pay reggo’ bollocks from the fat knacker first interviewed. They still hate cycling, it gets in the way and the perception is that it’s all about the head down lycra wanker when many people just want to get from A-B without being killed/injured/harassed and also to be able to cycle without plod wasting time unlawfully penalising them for not wearing a plastic hat. That is one of the clearest signs of an anti cycling nation. I’m proud to say that I’m part of a campaign group trying to help and put pressure on australian government to get the unlawful helmet rule abolished.
Until that happens and police focus on stopping and arresting those that kill and maim nothing meaningful will change as per the load of bullshit ‘infra’.
That’ll be a “fixed”, not a
That’ll be a “fixed”, not a “fixie”
dreamlx10 wrote:
Also, given the distance, he’s covered far more than just the Fred Whitton route. Chapeau!
dreamlx10 wrote:
Except where people use the term ‘fixie’, which is to say a lot of the time.
To call it cyclist priority
To call it cyclist priority is slightly misleading; that implies cyclists have somehow been given priority over other traffic on the roundabout. Instead, it’s taken cyclists off the roundabout and given them a circumferential lane which has priority over the main carriageway where the two intersect. Cyclists choosing to remain on the main carriageway (I don’t know the law regarding mandatory cycle lanes in Melbourne?) do not have priority! In fact, it’s a “Dutch style” roundabout. I think we might even have one or two somewhere in the UK.
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The word “impact” is surely being used negatively in this context but they’re looking the wrong way down the telescope. Surely any business would see it as a chance to sell stuff to the thousands of cycling fans hanging around for a day or a long weekend. Use your imagination folks, isn’t that why you’re considered as entrepreneurs and “business people”? Otherwise you might as well give up and get a job in a supermarket.
With regards to the
With regards to the Harrowgate business impact assessment, I’d hope that they have enough time to start collecting data about footfall and conversion rates.
It will probably drive business to catering outlets (restaurants and cafes for example), but if you run something that is unlikely to attract inwards trade (a launderette or a pet shop for example) then you might well be worried about business impacts.
If the council had a clear picture of spending patterns over the course of the year, then they could look at what impacts an event of this type has and perhaps compensate those businesses that lose out (a reduction in business rates for example?). Without this research it’s all meaningless.
Don’t bother cycling anywhere
Don’t bother cycling anywhere around Harrogate, the roads are shocking. Been out that way today, think I’ve vibration white finger now.
The country roads are shit and the urban roads are beyond shit. You get these roads full of £1m houses and the roads look someone lifted them from Syria. Now wonder everyone drives Rangepigs.
Yorkshire wallet wrote:
There may be a correlation between £1 million+ houses and bad roads, I had a bone shaking ride through Alderley Edge this morning.
Apparently it’s an area where huge 4 x 4s are compulsory.
It’s likely that the Range
It’s likely that the Range Rovers have caused the potholes.
I don’t think it’s anywhere near as big a problem as Yorkshire Wallet claims. Maybe you rode Penny Pot Lane? That one has a less than perfect surface, but it is shown as Rough Road on an OS map.
Harrogate is an events
Harrogate is an events/visitor/tourism town. Don’t be surprised if it puts on events. It can’t always be the Eurovision Song Contest.
The moaning about road closures was bound to start – I’m surprised it’s taken them this long. But, as at the TDF, the World Champs will be overwhelmingly supported by local people.
Businesses in town massively overestimate how many people arrive there by car. Just stop complaining, look for the opportunities, and it will be a big success.