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Chris Boardman's horror at video of lorry close-passing his mother

"Regardless of cyclists, no excuses for vehicle to pass close at high speed to a human being, none" said Olympic hero...

Chris Boardman has weighed into a debate about a close passing lorry that was filmed apparently dangerously close to his mother while on a ride with the Birkenhead North End Cycling Club.

Aldi, whose branded truck was being driven by a Broadhurst employee, argued that the pass was -perfectly safe, but Boardman questioned the decision, saying on Twitter: “Is this considered OK?”

He added: “Regardless of cyclists, no excuses for vehicle to pass close at high speed to a human being, none.

“If riding single file, I guarantee you the truck would pass the same distance from the riders at same high speed.

“Wonder how you'd feel if that was your kids/mother/sister, would it still be OK?”

Another user responded saying: “HGV had empty lane to pass properly so why not use it? too fast and in wet conditions too. despicable.”

A 15 year old cyclist uploaded the video to YouTube under the moniker TheTruckSimCyclist.

 

 

He added: “There was no need for this driver to overtake a group of cyclists this closely.”

He said the response from the Transport Company) was as follows [sic]:

"DEAR MR ********

I HAVE TODAY TAKEN ADVICE WITH REGARDS TO THE VIDEO YOU HAVE POSTED  ONTO YOUTUBE AND THE DRIVER OF THE BROADHURST TRANSPORT UNIT DID GIVE AMPLE ROOM FOR OVER TAKING.

TAKING IN TO CONCIDERATION THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD YOU ALSO PUT OTHER PEOPLE AT RISK.

AT THE BEGINING OF THE VIDEO IT SHOWS THAT THE ROAD WAS WIDE AND THE CYCLIST’S WERE DOUBLE BREAST BUT THIS WOULD STILL HAVE GIVEN THE DRIVER  AMPLE OF TIME TO MAKE A CLEARING TO PASS,

AS THE ROAD SHOW THE ARROW GOING TO A NARROW ROAD IT WOULD HAVE BEEN SAFER IF THE CYCLIST’S WERE TO MOVE TO SINGLE FILE AS CONCIDERATION HAS TO WORK FROM ALL ROAD USERS.

TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD. YES YOU ALSO COULD HAVE PUT PEOPLE AT RISK,

IT HAS TO WORK BOTH WAY. YOU COULD HAVE GONE TO SINGLE FILE WHILST TRAVELING ON NARROW ROAD.

ONCE AGAIN THE DRIVER DID GIVE AMPLE OF ROOM.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD CONTACT YOUR LOCAL COUNCIL WITH REGARDS TO A CYCLE LANE.

 

Last year we reported how Boardman said that close shaves with traffic when riding a bike are critical to people’s future decisions to cycle - and should be measured.

The data would also be a clear indication of whether cycle infrastructure is working or not, he said, as near misses would decrease dramatically in areas with good traffic layout.

Writing in support of The Near Miss Project, which has catalogued the daily cycling experience of more than 1,500 cyclists across the UK, Boardman said: “Many people in this country will tell you that cycling is safe, and the statistics do back that up. You have more chance of being killed walking a mile than you do cycling a mile and there is just one fatality for the equivalent of every 1,000 times cycled around the Earth.

“However, what those statistics don't tell you is what cycling on our roads is actually like and whether or not the experience is an enjoyable one. This is a critical thing to acknowledge, as we make decisions - such as whether to cycle in the first place - based as much on how we feel as on the facts.”

 

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Pfaff | 8 years ago
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Probably a note to Aldi would be more effective...

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The _Kaner | 8 years ago
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Speed and proximity are too high and too close, but unfortunately (for me) that is probably a 'safe' pass in comparison to N/R roads here in Ireland where the speed limit can be 100kph (normally 80kph) and usually no run off, except into a ditch....

There are good, curteous drivers (HGV etc - usually the most curteous) - but all too often (car/4 x 4) drivers will not even cross the white line to pass, or pass when oncoming traffic 'should' exclude it...

They just do not care...those wasted 3-10 seconds are too precious for them...

 

 

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pakennedy | 8 years ago
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I'm glad I'm a trucker at times. I waited patiently for a mile and a half yesterday to overtake a cyclist on a road that was a bit twisty and had the odd unfortunately timed oncoming car. I guess I lost maybe 3 minutes compared to the 40mph I could technically have been travelling at.

Given the appaling conditions and the headwind, he was doing well to be moving along at 20mph.

I overtook carefully, giving him plenty of room and 400 metres later found a new set of roadworks with a red light to hold me up. I then lost over 3 minutes waiting there.

There is *nothing* important enough to overtake inconsiderately or dangerously. There *will* be further delays.

My only criticism of the cyclist was that he didn't take primary position at all, even through the pinch points with traffic islands where a repmobile would have squeezed through.

The group in the video were 2 abreast taking the lane, that idiot driving needs a clue hammering in to his thick skull.

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perfect1964 | 8 years ago
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The riders should report the driver for careless/dangerous driving to the local police.

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perfect1964 | 8 years ago
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The riders should report the driver for careless/dangerous driving to the local police.

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Gozzy | 8 years ago
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Predictable victim blaming from a transport company there. Where's the professional embarrassment that one of their drivers is incapable of overtaking competently? If there's enough space ahead to overtake, there's enough space to use the other lane and give adequate room to other road users. 

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FluffyKittenofT... | 8 years ago
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I'm almost as depressed by the lack of literacy of the reply as by the quality of the driving.

I mean, maybe it's forgiveable if they don't actually employ any administrative/secretarial staff and it was just written by whoever was available, and in fact it's someone whose proper job is driving a lorry. But if it's someone specifically employed to write things and communicate, that's quite embarrassing in what it says about the UK educational system.

(And why are they SHOUTING?)

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BrianMcMahon | 8 years ago
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I don't think for a minute the person writing the repsonse has a CPC sounds more like a traffic clerk.  Far too close in my opinion and down to poor training from whoever does their driver assessment's, maybe there should be a module built into the driver cpc for periodic training.

Evidence like this should be passed to the local traffic commissioner who can look into the conduct of the driver on their O licence watch list.  Mine's wouldn't get away with that.

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Mungecrundle | 8 years ago
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The driver of the flatbed found that extra couple of feet which can make such a huge difference in margin for error, especially with the turbulent bow wave of displaced air that large vehicles generate.

That response beggars belief. I find it very surprising that someone so patently lacking in basic written communication skills has authority to represent any professional organisation.

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DofeDome | 8 years ago
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When a lorry comes this "close" in Bosnia and Herzegovina, I wave the driver thanking him for the space. It's usually just around half of meter of space that those big lorries and busses give you here. Still a long way to go for Balkans.

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Accessibility f... | 8 years ago
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That letter is a sad indictment of this country's education system.  It staggers me that whoever wrote that has been placed in some position of responsibility.

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demolitionspecial | 8 years ago
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This firm needs a visit from the Transport trainers at British Gypsum. I wrote to them recently commending the consistent attitudes and behaviours of their drivers. For the last three years I've commuted unlit country roads and A-roads daily and am passed by half a dozen of their wagons. They always wait patiently regardless of flat roads or hills, give loads of passing width and respond with the indicators when I acknowledge them. If one company can have all of their drivers do this, any firm can. It starts at the top and trickles down. Clearly Broadhurst and Aldi need challenging, and a lesson in grammar too.

 

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KarlM77 | 8 years ago
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If it was a car approaching the narrow road, it should show some consideration and half in size for the benefit of the truck.

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jasecd | 8 years ago
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What's sad is that I watch this and my initial reaction is that it's not too bad. This is because we've come to expect ludicrous unsafe driving as a normal occurrence. The truck driver was clearly contravening the Highway Code and the response from the transport company is unbelievable - they are in no way qualified as to judge what is safe or not.

Why couldn't the driver just slow down and wait? It's cretins like this that make me think twice about heading out for a ride. 

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akmbikes | 8 years ago
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Way to close in my opinion. But the thing that amazed me was the total lack of reaction from the cyclists. Not even a shake of the head. It obviously happens too often.

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HarrogateSpa | 8 years ago
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The letter from the transport company is by someone who not only can't write, but isn't very good at thinking either.

The claim that the lorry gave ample room is wrong, as the person would know if they were familiar with the Highway Code.

As for the point that 'concideration' has to work both ways, it's an argument you'd expect, but that doesn't make it any less lame. If the people on bikes were standing on their saddles, juggling, and weaving all over the road, it's still not a reason to put their lives in danger. And in the real world, not a fantasy one, it is only ever the big truck which could kill the people riding bikes, not the other way round.

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brooksby replied to HarrogateSpa | 8 years ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

The letter from the transport company is by someone who not only can't write, but isn't very good at thinking either.

Rereading the article, how do we know that the response was from the hauliers? If it is, it's pretty appalling and doesn't show them in a good light. But it reads more like some troll off a local paper comment page IMO.

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Hamster | 8 years ago
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There's an O Licence that needs objecting to at renewal time as it not being administered by a competent person. Which set of traffic commissioners should we write to?

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brooksby | 8 years ago
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There were arrows telling motorists to be aware that the road was narrowing, but the lorry driver just HAD TO GET IN FRONT. The pass itself: IMO too close, but typical ("just another day at the office ", as they say)

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