One of the names turning heads in the vibrant custom frame building market at the moment is Tom Donhou, with his self-titled brand Donhou Bicycles. If you've visited the Bespoked UK Handbuilt shows in previous years you’ll have seen his bikes, with the likes of the Rapha Continental disc-equipped steel road bike turning many heads.

Donhou has recently launched Signature Steel and this DSS1 is the first release in the new range. It’s a bike inspired by the Rapha Continental bike from a couple of years ago, and the many similar customer bikes Donhou has built in a similar mould in the years since.
"When we built the disc braked Rapha Continental bike which debuted at Bespoked a couple of years ago, we were ahead of the curve introducing discs onto a road build," says Tom Donhou speaking at Bespoked last year. "Since then some would say that that bike has almost become a reference point for other disc road builds."

Each of Donhou’s regular creations are bespoke frames crafted for individual requirements, but Tom Donhou felt there was an opportunity to offer a series of stock frames for those cyclists wanting a Donhou frame but perhaps not requiring the custom treatment. And though numbers will still be limited, the waiting time should be a fair bit shorter than the long waiting list for a custom Donhou frame.

So unlike his custom frames, the DSS1 here is available only in three stock sizes, paint and geometry. It makes owning a Donhou more accessible and it may be you don’t need, or desire, a fully custom frame, but still want something a little special and made in the UK. The frame is still made by Donhou to the same exacting standards and can be bought as a frameset with an Enve fork and Chris King headset for £2,295, or this complete bike for £4,385.

The DSS1 features a TIG welded Reynolds 853 Pro Team frame, with custom selected tube diameters and butting profiles to provide the desired ride quality. It’s available in three sizes (54, 56 and 58cm) and is built around an Enve fork and fitted with a Chris King Inset 8 headset in the 44mm head tube. Cable routing is external, with the brake and gear cables passing along the underside of the down tube. A Di2 compatible option is available. The frame is provided with a five year warranty.
Geometry for the 56cm we’ve got our hands on includes 73 degree head and seat angles, a 56cm top tube, 410mm chainstays, 170mm head tube and 43mm fork rake.

The DDS1 is sold as a frameset for £2,295, or a complete bike like what we have here, costing £4,385. That gets you a Shimano Ultegra mechanical groupset, Chris King headset, Enve 2.0 fork, Chris King R45 hubs on H+Son Archetype wheels built by August Wheelworks, and Continental Grand Prix 25mm tyres – there’s clearance for 28mm tyres if you wanted to go wider. Finishing kit is Fizik Cyrano with an Ardea Versus saddle, and brakes are Avid BB7 SLs. The finer details, such as stem length, handlebar width and gearing, can be customised.

Weight on the road.cc scales is 8.7kg (19.1lb). That's comparable to some carbon disc-equipped road bikes we've tested, which isn't bad considering it has a steel frame.
Along with the stock tubing and sizes, you get a choice of one paint job, but what a paint job it is. The base colour is a deep granite grey with a pink to lime pearl fade along the length of the down tube, with a white panel near the down tube. It’s painted in-house. There’s a Signature Steel head badge featuring the Donhou Swallows.

It’s a frame designed for riding all day in comfort with a forgiving ride quality that places fun at the top of the list of important criteria, and I'm about to hit the road and get the miles in and find out just what it's like.





































58 thoughts on “Just in: Donhou DSS1 Performance Disc Road Bike”
Stunning! Swoon…
Stunning! Swoon…
£4385 and they put BB7’s
£4385 and they put BB7’s on…………
Not competitive in terms of
Not competitive in terms of price…
A Lemond Washoe, which is
A Lemond Washoe, which is pretty similar less the discs and comes in a lot more sizes, is $2350, and I thought that was steep. A Rouke in 953 is significantly cheaper, again no discs though.
It may be a nice bike but it is horrifically expensive for the privilege of disc fittings.
That’s lovely and it’s great
That’s lovely and it’s great that the frame is made in the UK – but it is way too expensive for what it is as a full build.
and what is it with British
and what is it with British framebuilders and appalling paintjobs!
Grey and neon is a bit “Miami
Grey and neon is a bit “Miami Vice” for my liking, but I guess that’s fashion for you.
Ritchey Swiss Cross Disc
Ritchey Swiss Cross Disc Frame, Sram Force from Merlin, Hope hubs with Archetype. £2k. Bit of finishing kit needed.
Yikes, that’s a lot of money
Yikes, that’s a lot of money for the spec!
I think it was a mistake not to include eyelets for full mudguards on a bike like this too.
Jonny_Trousers wrote:Yikes,
Think you’d struggle somewhat to get the mudguards in. Looks like this one is running 25s front and rear and I doubt very much there is sufficient clearance. You’d also have to retrofit guard mounts on the enve fork. In fairness, Donhou is calling it a ‘Performance’ model, so in their minds, that probably negates the requirement for a fork.
Interesting when looking at the price of handmade steel bikes now though. Only the other week, a number of people were jumping up and down saying how expensive Dom Mason’s new frames were. They now seem quite cheap (in relative terms), as well as being more versatile in that you can supposedly run them with 28c and guards front and rear.
Well, that’s my 10 cents worth….
Jonny_Trousers wrote:Yikes,
Agree on both points.
Re : price
I really don’t
Re : price
I really don’t know much about the cachet of the frame-builder involved but i’d agree that it does come across as a lot of cash for the spec.. however lower the ticket price by 300-400 quid by dropping the Chris King hubs and it starts to look a bit better.
List price for just the hub set is the best part of twice what a decent set of hand-builts using the same rims and decent spokes might set you back. Lovely hubs, but i’d probably choose to divert the money elsewhere if I had it.
Personally I love the paint
Personally I love the paint job!
I too would miss mudguard mounts, but otherwise this is just the sort of thing I would like to spend 4k on (in my little fantasy world where such things are feasible)
Battleship grey just doesn’t
Battleship grey just doesn’t look right… It’s the kind of colour you have at the back of the shed, maybe they had a job lot left over!!!!
Rose Xenon CDX 3100 – carbon
Rose Xenon CDX 3100 – carbon frame and forks, full Ultegra Di2 (including pedals), Mavic Ksyrium Pro Disc 25 WTS and full Shimano hydraulic disc brakes – £2,738 – delivered!!
Nuff said
Dropped wrote:Rose Xenon CDX
Completely missing the point, irrelevant comparison. IF your looking at this sort of bike that isn’t a comparable item. If you had quoted a Condor stainless super accacio or a Genesis Volare, then you are in the right ball park. Mind you neither of them is cheap.
Then again this is an 853 not a 953 or Xcr frame, and 853 frames can be had ALOT cheaper, as i mentioned Brian Rourke, Mercian, Argos etc. All are considerably cheaper. This frame MIGHT have some magic element others miss, but i can’t see it?
mrmo wrote:Dropped wrote:Rose
Completely missing the point, irrelevant comparison. IF your looking at this sort of bike that isn’t a comparable item. If you had quoted a Condor stainless super accacio or a Genesis Volare, then you are in the right ball park. Mind you neither of them is cheap.
Then again this is an 853 not a 953 or Xcr frame, and 853 frames can be had ALOT cheaper, as i mentioned Brian Rourke, Mercian, Argos etc. All are considerably cheaper. This frame MIGHT have some magic element others miss, but i can’t see it?— Dropped
What utter nonsense. Look up the definition of relevance, it means connected with the matter in hand and as I made a comparison with a road bike that is disc equipped and much better specified than the snob bike reviewed, there clearly is relevance. And just for clarity on my point you are paying £2000 more for a heavier bike, lower grade groupset and wheels with a hideous paint job. Clearly relevant in any normal persons relevant estimation.
Dropped wrote:mrmo
Completely missing the point, irrelevant comparison. IF your looking at this sort of bike that isn’t a comparable item. If you had quoted a Condor stainless super accacio or a Genesis Volare, then you are in the right ball park. Mind you neither of them is cheap.
Then again this is an 853 not a 953 or Xcr frame, and 853 frames can be had ALOT cheaper, as i mentioned Brian Rourke, Mercian, Argos etc. All are considerably cheaper. This frame MIGHT have some magic element others miss, but i can’t see it?— mrmo
What utter nonsense. Look up the definition of relevance, it means connected with the matter in hand and as I made a comparison with a road bike that is disc equipped and much better specified than the snob bike reviewed, there clearly is relevance. And just for clarity on my point you are paying £2000 more for a heavier bike, lower grade groupset and wheels with a hideous paint job. Clearly relevant in any normal persons relevant estimation.— Dropped
I think you are clearly missing the point. People that like this stuff aren’t interested in carbon. I can’t see the appeal myself – it’s looks like the sort of thing a hipster would ride. But if you are looking for an expensive steel bike then this is probably all the eye candy you need.
Dropped wrote:Rose Xenon CDX
I ordered one on the weekend, they are quoting 13 weeks atm the moment! Their customer support hasn’t responded to any emails either so I’m going to have to ring up and have a moan.
Funny really as all the internet reviews have rose down as having great customer service.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand…
I to think the paint work is
I to think the paint work is drab, and foolishly hoped for an affordable Donhou, this is too high a price for what you get.
Looks like it will be some other company I go with, I like the Mason and Genesis are pushing the envelope with some of their bikes. It’s great to see a brit company giving surly et al a run for their money.
I love the equilibrium which looks a complete steal compared to this and bear in mind the titanium version which is still way under that price.
What an incongruous boring
What an incongruous boring colour scheme. No pannier mounts and the QR levers are on opposite sides = fail.
For a grand less you can get a gorgeous hand built Shand Stoater. The £1k you save you could give to SWMBO. Quids in.
I am pretty seriously
I am pretty seriously considering one of these. Tom will spec Shimano hydraulic brakes should one so require – doesn’t cost much extra.
There are (of course) much “better” bikes, for less money. The Rose Xenon CDX 3100 looks alright. I can’t say it floats my boat personally, I don’t care for either the frame or the graphics. I like the look of both on the Donhou, and it’s long-established as something I’d like: ever since that Rapha Continental bike at Bespoked.
For what it’s worth, my mountain bike (a Chromag) is also a blisteringly expensive piece of handmade exotica without obvious performance advantages over something a quarter of the price.
Value for money is a fairly subjective thing. My approach tends to be to invest rather a lot in something that has been an object of desire on the same sorts of timescales that a tattoo design has to gestate for before it gets inked. It slows down the cycle of dissatisfaction, regret and upgrade-fever quite well, and I’m lucky enough to have the money to indulge myself.
🙂
BigDummy wrote:I am pretty
This guy gets it.
I appreciate that models such as Canyon, Rose et al are cheaper but you’d never be able to have a chat with the person who made it or put it together for you. Plus, if you’re in a bad accident then that’s the frame pretty much dead and I’m lead to believe that carbon does in fact have a shelf life (don’t hold me to that though!). With this, you’d no doubt be able to call up Tom and get him to replace tubes & effect repairs to paintwork etc following damage. That peace of mind is something I like and don’t mind paying extra for. It’s like the excellent repairs service with Rapha.
Please also appreciate that if people like Jackson etc are based up in the North then their overheads will be considerably lower than those of a frame builder based in London which will affect the end price at the end of the day.
Impossible to compare
Impossible to compare hand-made, limited numbers bike with a mass-produced carbon one. Fair comparisons would be Parlee and the like.
Ferrari F40 & a 1.1popular plus Ford Fiesta are both car built at around the same time. One had a place on a million bedroom walls, the other was a million peoples first car.
The paint job looks
The paint job looks ridiculous.
I don’t like the style of paint job where the ends on the patterned area on the down tube are cleanly cut off. It looks like the sort of thing you’d do as a kid when you stuck stickers on your chopper 🙂 .
Why cant we have a nice flowing design or pattern that blends from the down tube into the head and seat.
It’s a beautiful bike and
It’s a beautiful bike and after a quick look at Donhou’s website, it’s one of many superb creations. Ok so we can all locate a manufacturer that has a cheaper offering however this is a fairly unique bike hand built in London and I love it!
If i had that sort of money
If i had that sort of money to spend on a bike i’d get a cinelli xcr, cheaper and better looking imo. I do like the paint job though.
Comparing a frame like this
Comparing a frame like this to anything else is irrelevant, a company like Rose, Cinelli etc can charge way less as their frames are made in bulk. I could get a steel frame from Ribble for just under £400 but that’s hardly the same.
These are made in limited numbers by hand and are intended to be exclusive. Plus they are built by a UK crafts person, this should be celebrated, not subject to cynical boohooing.
Threeh wrote:Comparing a
A Cinelli XCR is made to special order and costs getting on for three grand.
But Bob Jackson appear to charge approx. £750 for their 853 road frame and forks. Steve Goff website says £600 for frame only, although I wonder if that price is a bit out of date.
Daylight robbery and very
Daylight robbery and very much the case of the emperors new clothes. I have Rourke and Longstaffs in spitting distance and they both offer the best bespoke frame building for less. The price just for the frame alone is laughable. I am sure it’s well made but it’s no nicer than some mass produced frames that came out of the Raleigh factory many moons ago made by skilled workers.
I have watched with interest how many working class skilled trades that used to be common place have been taken over by the middle class and the hipsters and the end product has had a massive price tag arbitrarily added to it.
I never thought class would effect the bike trade but it obviously has.
A comment so baseless I had
A comment so baseless I had to create an account for!
How you can compare your frames to a frame you have not yet seen is beyond me. You have not seen the quality of the work, nor have you ridden the frame/bike.
Again, saying the price of the frame is laughable is in itself laughable. Tom builds exceptional components (as many of his customers will swear to) and each one demands a high price. Some people are willing to pay more for a UK hand-made from from a man with a very dedicated design philosophy as well as exceptional customer care.
As for the idea that a mass produced Raleigh could compete in terms of build quality, well I’m guessing your glasses must be quite rose tinted.
“over by the middle class and the hipsters”
Trust me, Tom is neither of those (ok, well maybe a little bit of a hipster). Truth is quality products have always been expensive. And some people have always thrown their toys out of the pram about the price. ‘people know the price of everything, but the value of nothing’ or whatever the quote is.
As for the price being arbitrary, well, why don’t you try adding up the price for having your own factory, the staff, the rent, the running costs, the marketing, the travel costs etc etc etc etc etc.
I think maybe there is some class related issues you need to sort out within yourself.
Can’t afford it? Probably not intended as a customer anyway.
bobby_brains wrote: Tom
I assume you mean builds WITH?
bobby_brains wrote:
As for
Which then leads to the question of why it costs so much more than others?
http://www.robertscycles.com/robertspricelist13.html
I don’t doubt the frames are nice, and they will sell, but I don’t see what the magic something is that justifies the extra over a large number of other well established bespoke builders, bear in mind there are very few frame sizes and if your spending that sort of money I would hope you buy something that fits, not something that is “near enough”
bobby_brains wrote: Tom
To be fair to MKultra, Tom Donhue has TIG welded some off the shelf CrMo steel tubing. It’s not like he has painted the Sistine Chapel.
I’ve a mate who used to weld pressure vessels for a living who could do at least as good a job.
It’s not even like these are bespoke made, the article says they are only available in 3 sizes.
I preferred the Dom Mason frame from the other week, but someone like Chris Marshall could build something just as nice for half the price. And Chris’s paint job would look nicer.
(Then again, Chris doesn’t spend any of his customers’ money on marketing, and works out of a lock up in Keighley, not a workshop in Hackney).
bobby_brains wrote:A comment
— MKultraIt’s not as if Brian Rourke or Longstaffs down the road from me are operating a back street sweat shop with illegal migrants to undercut the competition.
People on here know what they are talking about so being an apologist for an over priced brand is not impressing any one, if people out there are stupid enough to pay twice the price simply because a frame has been been anointed by the hipster pope using an iced frapacino in a Rapha mug then more fool them.
A friend of mine has got a Longstaffs trike and it’s a thing of beauty with far more engineering and hand finishing having gone to it.
It was still cheaper than your best mates “bespoke” 3 sizes fits no one approach that’s twice the price it should be. Where on earth are they being fabricated? In a Swiss castle then air freighted on a private jet one at a time to the customers door?
As that’s the only explanation I can see for these “costs” you are banging on about.
bobby_brains wrote:A comment
— MKultra
What an effete tit. The bike is not even made to measure (3 sizes!) and as contributors have commented it is not a work of art. I could , after a great deal of training, replicate this frame but could never reproduce Michael Angelo’s David not matter how many years I tried. In the end it is simple engineering so pay £2000 more than it’s worth if you like but you’ll look like a complete shallow mug. But then again why would a city banker like you be bothered? Dick.
I couldn’t put my finger on
I couldn’t put my finger on what the paint scheme reminded me of. Then it hit me… Global Hypercolor. That’s the matching kit sorted.
This one is a thing of beauty though: http://www.donhoubicycles.com/chriss-xcr-road-bike/
Sorry mate, but trikes will
Sorry mate, but trikes will never, ever be a thing of beauty! Regardless of who builds them and what’s hung off them!
Shame only three sizes
Shame only three sizes offered! Struggling to see the appeal about this bike. I do like the paint job however.
I fail to see how you can
I fail to see how you can determine that the poster is a city banker just because he can afford and sees the workmanship that’s gone into this frame? I can afford it yet I’m not a banker. Great reasoning though, enjoy riding your £200 scaffolding tubed frame.
City banker is rhyming
City banker is rhyming slang……And the scaffolding dig really is quite ironic as the steel used to form scaffolding has much more in common with the Donkey (sorry Donhou) frame than it does with my carbon or aluminium bikes.
Dropped wrote:City banker is
Ah, the phrase you’re looking for is “merchant banker”. Get it right. Your knowledge on rhyming slang is about as great as your knowledge about steel. Carry on though.
Haha, so much hate in this
Haha, so much hate in this post.
It’s much too late and I simply don’t care enough.
However…
I know Tom, and I know that he is not in this business to make a ton of cash. I am sure that his pricing is sensible for his costs etc etc.
Also, he makes his own components for certain bikes (bars, forks, stems, guards, fenders etc).
I imagine most people on here are angry at the price simple because they can’t afford it. “Ooooh, but but but, it’s expensive, screw that guy, but but but….”
It’s not marketed to you. It’s marketed to people who don’t piss and moan about crap on a shitty forum.
bobby_brains wrote:Haha, so
I think there are probably many on here that can afford it. If they are sheep then your latter comments might pass them by. If they are not then perhaps those comments might encourage them to look elsewhere.
As already said, I can’t see
As already said, I can’t see the appeal in this bike (whether it was £500 or £5,000). It’s just not going to get my money. But the wielding is actually very subtle and beautiful. I just think steel is a bit pointless given the weight penalty.
Hi Bobby Brains. I wouldn’t
Hi Bobby Brains. I wouldn’t say it’s due to not affording it, and I wouldn’t resort to personal insults, nor do I think it’s on calling this a shitty forum.
This shitty forum has promoted your mates bike and you are taking the time to comment on it – ironic much?
Look, I think people consider it abit over priced compared to what is offered by others out there. It’s the issue of relativity.
Personally not for me, due to the geometry for starters, but I like the paint. However I am genuinely interested in hearing how it rides!
The same people complaining
The same people complaining about the price are the same people who wear clothes from Next / Primark.
Functional but characterless.
Show us your hand made
Show us your hand made underpants or GTFO.
Amusing to see the lazy North
Amusing to see the lazy North / South divide and City Boy stereotypes, ‘I know a bloke, who makes frames for no money…’ AND ‘I could buy ten carbon bikes for that’ all in one thread.
How about celebrating choice and people supporting the bike industry in all its guises?
Crazy idea?
Rideseverything wrote:Amusing
That would be too easy. As long as people think somethings overpriced then we’ll always have people stating that.
No one “thinks” it is over
No one “thinks” it is over priced.
It simply is overpriced.
Fools…money…etc etc.
MKultra wrote:No one “thinks”
If a single person is happy to buy it, it’s not overpriced. It’s just that you don’t particularly agree with the price. Unfortunately, you don’t get to set the price.
MKultra wrote:No one “thinks”
You clearly think it’s overpriced though…
Guys,
Can we use the word
Guys,
Can we use the word expensive, rather than overpriced on this forum,please. You’re all intelligent people and saying something looks too expensive is less confrontational (less Troll-like using modern vernacular) and carries more weight given what we know at the moment.
Something is only overpriced if it doesn’t sell (which in the case of the above bike, we don’t know yet). If he has to discount it to sell it, then it was overpriced.
Good example would be a 1 bed flat in London being sold for 1/2 million squid. Sadly its not overpriced because there are lines of people buying at that price, yet to the vast majority of us it is too %@$#$ expensive 😉
Semantics, excellent!
I’m
Semantics, excellent!
I’m now wondering if Jacques Derrida would have liked this frame. In fact, I’m imagining Derrida on this hand-made-if-controversial machine going for a ride with Umberto Eco, who’s riding a Taiwanese carbon model. Which of them would be happier, I wonder? And, crucially, what would ‘happier’ mean in this context?
fourstringsisplenty wrote:I’m
Schrödinger’s cat just disappeared up its own fundament.
Wow. That escalated fast.
Wow. That escalated fast. =D>
Here’s a thing:
It’s got more style than
It’s got more style than you’re average custom steel build.
Style is an unquantifiable term that you either associate with or think of as a waste of time and effort.
Do you care about looking different from the Red, Black and White cyclists around you.
Does it matter that there is no performance gain for an additional cost.
B-) B-) B-)