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Live blog: Victim offers to pay bike thief’s friends £5,000 if they get him prosecuted; “I don’t want to say I’m going for the win” says Adam Yates – but he is; The closest pass of all? + more
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Tradescant 2 hours ago
@jackcycles I'm not sure my grandchildren got that memo. Cycling should not be just for hardened road warriors.
DS2025 2 hours ago
Chrisonabike There are a number of police forces in England and Wales that are using portable testing equipment already... How effective it is another matter, I haven't looked into the results of failing (I would hope they just seize and crush the motorbike without any faff but I am sure there are appeal processes, promises not to use them on public roads etc).
KiwiMike 2 hours ago
Woah there - a precision-engineered European-made product, with unparalleled adaptability, is somehow a ‘rip off’? Compared to what - Temu? As per the article, most quality through-axles go for £50-60+, but aren’t adaptable and don’t provide any stand or trailer capability. If you want to balance your £3-4-5k suspension or carbon bike, or bikepacking setup on a budget product subject to highly focused stresses, fair play. Cycling’s a broad church.
Dnnnnnn 2 hours ago
@eburtthebike I've found Spanish drivers to be almost entirely excellent around cyclists.
neilmck 3 hours ago
I agree, the study was made after cycle paths that had been introduced in Berlin during the 70’s and 80’s caused a big increase in cycling deaths. It is an interesting study for cyclists to read in order to know what dangers exist at badly designed junctions. Here in Paris we have very few bi-directional paths. The ones I have cycled on have no building entrances or courtyards (so no cars crossing the path) and every junction is traffic lights to prevent accidents.
thrawed 3 hours ago
We have enough regulation. They're running a motorbike without insurance/registration and possibly without a licence, and the punishment for being caught with all that is pretty severe already. The problem is lack of enforcement.
chrisonabike 4 hours ago
In my experience with anything less than one of those serious mid-bike two-foot kickstands, a wall / tree / hedge is the better option, or the bike will sometimes show you the alternative and lie down by itself. Maybe I've got panniers that are just too large and the wrong balance of (too much) cargo though? And of course Edinburgh streets are great at funneling gusts of wind...
chrisonabike 4 hours ago
I agree there's a clear legal line * but I do see something here. Like much tech it's entirely opaque from the outside (without even invoking things like the VW emissions cheating).** I know in NL they have trialled semi-portable "test stations" to check max motor speeds. However with the latest "but there's no money" crisis I can't see that over here. Indeed it's hard to see the police being motivated to do any more roads policing, with this even further down the priority list. Hope I'm wrong... While I guess many of us *would* be fine with EAPCs as a means to attract "non-cyclists" ... perhaps there's an "attractive nuisance" element to this? We're ushering people into an apparently effortless, easy and minimal consequence mobility mode without the "learning experience" of managing a lighter, unpowered machine on roads. And it's still (busy) *roads* where the new power-assisted riders will often find themselves. Not like in more advanced countries where people usually cycle in much safer and more controlled environments. OTOH we should always balance such concerns against "but cars and full-power ICE motorbikes now" though! Number plates, licences and insurance aren't necessarily mitigating that well... * As soon as there are laws games will be played. How long can you be above the "continuous rate power" for? Can we have *multiple* legal motors on one machine? ** Is the power / speed actually regulated by software, and how long will that keep a child armed with the internet from unlocking it?
Zazz53 4 hours ago
And maybe a planning obligation to have traffic Marshalls controlling access out of the site not obstructing the path and restricting it if cyclists are likely to be obstructed …one can hope
Bob Sprocket 5 hours ago
I'll stick to my low rider with Karrimor Kalahari dry bag panniers and Karrimor Kalahari barbag thanks.
18 thoughts on “Live blog: Victim offers to pay bike thief’s friends £5,000 if they get him prosecuted; “I don’t want to say I’m going for the win” says Adam Yates – but he is; The closest pass of all? + more”
Oh My Lord. God Bless America
Oh My Lord. God Bless America and pick-up trucks.
Christ! Nearly had his wing
Christ! Nearly had his wing mirror off there.
looked deliberate as well!
looked deliberate as well!
Within the marked lane? The
Within the marked lane? The nearside wheels are clearly on the white line, so the bodywork and mirrors are outside the lane. Very grateful that the cyclist wasn’t even struck, let alone injured, but it must have been a matter of millimetres, and for Brexiteers, that’s fractions of an inch.
burtthebike wrote:
I voted to leave a vile dictatorship that criminally funds other dicatorships, stick to talking about cycling instead of whining about something that will change the balance of Europe as a whole, not just the UK. For people who wished to remain, it’s miles not km!
Christ that was as close to
Christ, that was as close to being killed as you’d ever want to see.
WTF!?
WTF!?
“I’m not sure what you would like for us to do at this time as no crime was committed. This video doesn’t show any ill intent.”
How about attempted murder……?
The lack of movement by the
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
hawkinspeter wrote:
The twitter link has the comment:
“The video is fake for 4 reasons:
1- No sound for the car passing
2- No car shade on the cyclist
3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched
4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”
hirsute wrote:
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
— hirsute The twitter link has the comment: “The video is fake for 4 reasons: 1- No sound for the car passing 2- No car shade on the cyclist 3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched 4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”— hawkinspeter
Yeah, I saw that which gave me pause to think, but I didn’t bother to check his claims.
hirsute wrote:
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
— hirsute The twitter link has the comment: “The video is fake for 4 reasons: 1- No sound for the car passing 2- No car shade on the cyclist 3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched 4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”— hawkinspeter
If you look at the guys forearm when the vehicle comes past he clearly flinches/changes arm position, that movement whilst unseen by most is enough for me to say it’s legit.
As for the no law broken BS, go into the police station, swing a hammer near the officers head and then say, “all ok gov, no harm done eh!” If they can’t see that was deliberate/reckless endangerment then they are complete fucktards. I seem to recall that just like here and in Aus there are assault laws where no physical contact need be made for a crime to be commited. Typical of plod though no matter where you live.
For you lot thinking it’s
For you lot thinking it’s fake check out the source video here. It was captured on a 360 camera so you can pan around.
BlodadTand wrote:
That’s a much better link.
That is a very composed cyclist!
I downloaded it, but it’s a bit distorted when played as a straight video. Even so, this shot is terrifying:
hawkinspeter wrote:
It might have taken a bit of time for it to sink in, way too fast for any initial reaction. That’s one lucky bastard.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Someone has made this showing how close it actually was. Really terrifying. Serously no ill-intent?? Millimetres from death or, at the very least, life changing injuries.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/HandmadeGreatFowl
a1white wrote:
Thanks for that. So, Surrey school run standard then.
Since the other vehicles in the video seem to be giving the rider more than a whole lane out of courtesy, I would have said either ill-intent or, in the light of my last 2 experiences of similar – a) some old gimmer in a Jag fiddling with his dashboard controls, and b) a woman having some splendid craic with her passenger – no idea of what was happening on the road.
I see that that Thomas
I see that that Thomas Geraint chap has had to take to Twitter to ask folks to chill out. I gues the thick twats think he really is supporting Sweden. Easy mistake I suppose, it is, after all, written down AND on the internet and it wouldn’t require any thinking whatsoever to confuse a stupid.
Bloody hell, that better be
Bloody hell, that better be one hell of a Wiggins jersey for £185. What exactly do you get for £185 when it comes to jerseys?
I think the Wiggins ‘brand’ is tainted now, a lot more than hint of a stain that Froome currently has. I can’t see people buying it for any other reason than wearing something expensive to show they’re wearing something expensive.
Black and gold as well. Nothing says retro better than black and gold. Yawn. Stick some JPS stickers on it.