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Live blog: Victim offers to pay bike thief’s friends £5,000 if they get him prosecuted; “I don’t want to say I’m going for the win” says Adam Yates – but he is; The closest pass of all? + more
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AidanR 2 hours ago
@mdavidford thanks for the tip on replying to the thread! It would seem odd for his brother (thank you for the correction) to mention that he wasn't able "to brake in time" because he was in the TT position if he otherwise would have been able to apply the brakes. Perhaps it wouldn't have avoided the crash entirely, but it seems likely that it would have at least lessened the impact. It therefore seems entirely reasonable to conclude from this that TT bikes are more dangerous. That takes no blame away from the driver, as a rider should not be forced to brake to avoid a collision caused by a driver turning into their path.
mdavidford 2 hours ago
@the little onion I'd agree that would be a sensible way to go. I don't think it's currently feasible for Sustrans / NCN, though, because they don't have the necessary powers to make it happen. It needs a local authority, who can drive the planning, land acquisition, etc. And actually there are much larger sums earmarked for local and regional authorities to improve provision. (Whether they actually end up using that effectively is, of course, another question.)
anotherflat 2 hours ago
@Steve K My sister taught a kid who came up through Crystal Palace youth system then left for another club at 16. Jordan classily traduced him and his family in some friendly newspaper.
Rendel Harris 3 hours ago
@Terry Hutt Thing is, I've yet to come across a silent ebike, so all you have to do to check legality is ride it, keep an eye on your own speedo and listen to hear if the motor's still running when you get over 15 mph.
Terry Hutt 3 hours ago
@Rendel Harris This would probably be better than their current "tests" if the e-bike has a cadence sensor and a non-GPS speed display. If it has a power sensor (proportional assistance) or no speed display you're back to square one. Mind you, if the bike is doing 30mph on the flat and the rider isn't pedaling furiously, I say crush it with the rider still attached.
chrisonabike 3 hours ago
@the little onion AFAICS the notional cycling network is best seen as a "national sign network". An impressive mapping effort to catalog what infra there is and *suggest* places for cycling. But no guarantee it will be suitable for all cyclists. Or even any specific cycling purpose. Unless possibly you're into a kind of "adventure racing". It certainly bears little resemblance to the numbered junction network ("knooppunt") in NL. *That* is a genuine "help you navigate" system - but that goes everywhere, on at least "good enough" infra.
chrisonabike 3 hours ago
@the little onion Yes. One of the many great features of cycling-as-transport is that you can start local. Then concentration (of money, then infra and cyclists) is effective. That's how eg. Seville did it. And (I think) Paris. And much of how NL has got there I suspect. OTOH there are some potential blockers at bigger scales. Perhaps a Reform regional mayor decides they *will* implement the national policies - win the war *for* the motorist? Or good infra or transport reorganisation gets tangled up in national legal regulation. Or the money is suddenly shut off (or redirected to fill half-a-mile of potholes for motorists for a year).
the little onion 4 hours ago
@mdavidford I get your argument, but why spread it thinly on stuff that plainly doesn't work, rather than concentrating it on good stuff which does, in the right place? If given the choice of a national network of rubbish, or small localised patches of well-maintained excellence that does a great job within individual towns and cities, I'd go for the latter every time.
OldRidgeback 4 hours ago
Like a lot of CPFC fans, I take anything Simon Jordan says with a pinch of salt. Jordan took over an ailing football club, got it into the premiership and then his ego got even bigger, followed by him running the club downhill fast. He's not remembered fondly by many down at Selhurst Park. He might actually know his wines as he did own a restaurant for a while. But he can stick his views on cycling up his behind.
smallbeer 4 hours ago
@didsthewinegeek He can explain it to you but he can't understand it for you.
18 thoughts on “Live blog: Victim offers to pay bike thief’s friends £5,000 if they get him prosecuted; “I don’t want to say I’m going for the win” says Adam Yates – but he is; The closest pass of all? + more”
Oh My Lord. God Bless America
Oh My Lord. God Bless America and pick-up trucks.
Christ! Nearly had his wing
Christ! Nearly had his wing mirror off there.
looked deliberate as well!
looked deliberate as well!
Within the marked lane? The
Within the marked lane? The nearside wheels are clearly on the white line, so the bodywork and mirrors are outside the lane. Very grateful that the cyclist wasn’t even struck, let alone injured, but it must have been a matter of millimetres, and for Brexiteers, that’s fractions of an inch.
burtthebike wrote:
I voted to leave a vile dictatorship that criminally funds other dicatorships, stick to talking about cycling instead of whining about something that will change the balance of Europe as a whole, not just the UK. For people who wished to remain, it’s miles not km!
Christ that was as close to
Christ, that was as close to being killed as you’d ever want to see.
WTF!?
WTF!?
“I’m not sure what you would like for us to do at this time as no crime was committed. This video doesn’t show any ill intent.”
How about attempted murder……?
The lack of movement by the
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
hawkinspeter wrote:
The twitter link has the comment:
“The video is fake for 4 reasons:
1- No sound for the car passing
2- No car shade on the cyclist
3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched
4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”
hirsute wrote:
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
— hirsute The twitter link has the comment: “The video is fake for 4 reasons: 1- No sound for the car passing 2- No car shade on the cyclist 3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched 4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”— hawkinspeter
Yeah, I saw that which gave me pause to think, but I didn’t bother to check his claims.
hirsute wrote:
The lack of movement by the cyclist suggests to me that either the video is faked or the cyclist is completely unflappable.
— hirsute The twitter link has the comment: “The video is fake for 4 reasons: 1- No sound for the car passing 2- No car shade on the cyclist 3- Between the 3rd & 4th second, the left hand was oddly stretched 4- With this speed of a large car, at least there should be a side wind effect on the cyclist”— hawkinspeter
If you look at the guys forearm when the vehicle comes past he clearly flinches/changes arm position, that movement whilst unseen by most is enough for me to say it’s legit.
As for the no law broken BS, go into the police station, swing a hammer near the officers head and then say, “all ok gov, no harm done eh!” If they can’t see that was deliberate/reckless endangerment then they are complete fucktards. I seem to recall that just like here and in Aus there are assault laws where no physical contact need be made for a crime to be commited. Typical of plod though no matter where you live.
For you lot thinking it’s
For you lot thinking it’s fake check out the source video here. It was captured on a 360 camera so you can pan around.
BlodadTand wrote:
That’s a much better link.
That is a very composed cyclist!
I downloaded it, but it’s a bit distorted when played as a straight video. Even so, this shot is terrifying:
hawkinspeter wrote:
It might have taken a bit of time for it to sink in, way too fast for any initial reaction. That’s one lucky bastard.
hawkinspeter wrote:
Someone has made this showing how close it actually was. Really terrifying. Serously no ill-intent?? Millimetres from death or, at the very least, life changing injuries.
https://gfycat.com/gifs/detail/HandmadeGreatFowl
a1white wrote:
Thanks for that. So, Surrey school run standard then.
Since the other vehicles in the video seem to be giving the rider more than a whole lane out of courtesy, I would have said either ill-intent or, in the light of my last 2 experiences of similar – a) some old gimmer in a Jag fiddling with his dashboard controls, and b) a woman having some splendid craic with her passenger – no idea of what was happening on the road.
I see that that Thomas
I see that that Thomas Geraint chap has had to take to Twitter to ask folks to chill out. I gues the thick twats think he really is supporting Sweden. Easy mistake I suppose, it is, after all, written down AND on the internet and it wouldn’t require any thinking whatsoever to confuse a stupid.
Bloody hell, that better be
Bloody hell, that better be one hell of a Wiggins jersey for £185. What exactly do you get for £185 when it comes to jerseys?
I think the Wiggins ‘brand’ is tainted now, a lot more than hint of a stain that Froome currently has. I can’t see people buying it for any other reason than wearing something expensive to show they’re wearing something expensive.
Black and gold as well. Nothing says retro better than black and gold. Yawn. Stick some JPS stickers on it.