The most exciting/radical/groundbreaking/divisive/controversial new bike launched this year is the 3T Strada, a disc-equipped aero road bike built around wide tyres and a 1x drivetrain. You’ll no doubt have seen our first look and first ride video from the launch earlier this year, but we now have an actual bike to test. Here’s a first look before we hit the road.
What the 3T Strada does is bring together a lot of the technology that has pervaded the road bike industry (most of it from the mountain bike side) in the past few years, and bring its all together in one cohesive package. We’re talking disc brakes, wide tyres, an aero frame and 1×11 drivetrain. Some people are talking about this being the future of road bikes, which it well may be, but rather more conservatively, it at least offers another choice if you’re into your cutting-edge tech.
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3T is now being handled in the UK by Saddleback, who also look after Enve, Silca, Chris King, Rotor and other high-end brands, and they’ve just built this bike up for us to test. It’s actually one of the very first bikes they’ve built and when they asked if we’d like to be one of the first to ride it, we leapt at the chance. I was down to their HQ like a shot.
It’s a suitably high-end build, as you’d expect on a frameset that costs £3,600. There are the latest Shimano Dura-Ace R91070 Di2 brake levers combined with an XT Di2 rear mech – not a typical combination but I’ve ridden a few adventure bikes with this sort of build, but this is the first time I’ve seen it on a road bike.
Enve 5.6 wheels are shod with Continental GrandPrix 4000 28mm tyres, an aero Enve handlebar, 3T stem and seatpost and Fizik Aliante saddle complete the build. This size medium bike weighs 7.7kg (16.97 lb).
It’s likely that most people interested in the Strada will spec their own dream build, but Saddleback will also be supplying a 3T build kit costing £3,850 (on top of the price of the frameset) that comprises an SRAM Force CX1 groupset with the Quarq Prime crankset, 3T Discus C60 Team wheels and 3T parts.
But there’s only one chainring?
The Strada is designed specifically for a 1x groupset, there is no way of fitting a front mech. That is, without doubt, the most divisive design element of the new bike, and it’s borne of a desire to improve the aerodynamics around the bottom bracket area.
But what does it mean for the gearing choice? This bike has an 11-40t cassette and a 48t chainring, a Wolf Components ring with narrow/wide teeth intended to increase chain retention and stop it bouncing off on bumpy roads. Let’s put some numbers down to help get our hands around the difference between this and a conventional drivetrain, using a handy gear inch calculator.
The 48t to 11-40t combination on this bike provides a high and low gear of 116.38 and 32.03in respectively. For comparison, a typical 52/36 and 11-28t setup provides a high and low gear of 126.26 and 34.43inches. So you can see you’re not missing on the smallest gears, but loosing out a little at the top-end.
That could be resolved by swapping to a bigger 50t chainring if you’re a speed merchant, and that’s an option I may take up during the review process. There’s also more scope with adjusting the gear range by changing cassettes.
3T has developed its own 9-32 cassettes in two versions, called Bailout and Overdrive, that have been developed to address some of the gaps between sprockets that can occur on such wide range cassettes.
The Bailout has 9-10-11-12-13-15-17-19-22-26-32 tooth sprockets. You’ll notice that the sprockets increase in size just one tooth at a time at the business end of the cassette with an “oh shit this is a steep hill” bailout sprocket at the other end. The Overdrive has a 9-11-12-13-15-17-19-22-25-28-32 configuration aimed at providing evenly spaced gears across the middle of the cassette with that 9-tooth sprocket for keeping the power on during big descents.
The new cassettes won’t be available until December but I’ll definitely be interested in trying them out.
Wide tyres, minimal clearance and disc brakes
That’s a lot of words already on the lack of a conventional drivetrain. The other big design decision is the frame and fork being designed around wide tyres. There’s space for 25 to 30mm tyres, but these 28mm Contis actually measure 31mm.
Yes, clearance is tight, but that’s fully intentional; this is a bike designed to maximise aerodynamics in every way, it’s not designed to be a practical bike for plugging around muddy British lanes in the winter. You can’t fit mudguards. Think of it more as a time trial bike with drop handlebars. It’s all about performance, about going as fast as possible. Check out any other aero road bike or time trial bike and you’ll notice they have similarly small clearances as well.
I know a lot of people are looking at the disc brakes and wide tyres and automatically assuming that means it’s got versatility written all over it. It hasn’t. This isn’t an endurance bike. It’s a race bike. and it will be raced in the professional peloton next year. Lots of eyes will be on Aqua Sport Blue when the first rollout on their new bikes.
The aero approach to the frame and fork is all about offsetting the higher drag of the bigger tyres. The downtube profile, called ArcFoil, is intended to reduce drag in a wide range of real-world wind conditions and it’s wider towards the bottom bracket to better shield the water bottle from the airflow, with two mounting positions available – the lowest is the most aerodynamic if you want to use just a single bottle.
There are disc brakes because, well they are better, and they free up the fork crown to be as low as possible to decrease the frontal surface area, while the rear stays are extremely thin to maximise seated comfort.
The disc brakes use the flat mount standard, and this bike has a 160mm front rotor and 140mm rear rotor, and there are 12mm thru-axles at both ends. All cables and hoses are internally routed, and the seat clamp is also internal, tucked away inside the top tube.
So that ladies and gentleman, is a first look at the latest test bike to arrive in the office. Stay tuned for a full review very soon – this is one bike test you won’t want to miss.
And if you’ve not watched it already, watch Dave and Tony riding the bike up and down some mountains at the launch earlier this year in this video below:
48 thoughts on “Just In: 3T Strada – the future just arrived in the road.cc bike shed”
Just imagine the damage to
Just imagine the damage to the downtube should anything pointy get stuck in the front tyre.
Peowpeowpeowlasers wrote:
Rather than imagining it, we tested it. Pick up of debris is quite rare. Similar to what you would find on a well-designed TT bike with a rear wheel cutout. Which of course is no surprise, since the gap is very similar in size, with the advantage that the way the cutout starts in the front sheds debris better.
This is of course provided people follow the tire size guidelines we have set. Ironically, with all our testing, the pro rides opted for wider tires than the amateurs. I’ve written some more info about that here: https://www.facebook.com/notes/3t-cycling/3-keys-to-strada-tire-clearance-by-gerard-vroomen/1592286004135122/
Love it.
Can’t afford it.
Love it.
Can’t afford it.
I’m just not getting it at
I’m just not getting it at all.
I have been waiting for an
I have been waiting for an announcement on a “complete” bike solution for the Strada 3T but sadly this is not what I was hoping for.
Take the Exploro. €3k for the frame. They also offer a build that is €3990 https://store.3tcycling.com/en/products/frames/exploro/exploro-team-complete-bike-536.html (Yes, I know, it doesn’t have carbon wheels but that appears to be the main difference in build)
Strada frame is £3.6k. Plus the £3.85k for “bits bringing a total bike cost of £7,450! If that was with carbon stem/bars & some modified implementation of SRAM RED eTap then I could almost understand but this is an insane cost.
For compariosn sake, take the 2018 Canyon Aeroad CF SLX Disc 9.0 SL https://www.canyon.com/en-gb/road/aeroad/2018/aeroad-cf-slx-disc-9-0-sl.html.This has SRAM RED eTap & their lovely carbon integrated stem/bar. £5999.
I love the concept of the 3T but until there price comes in at a more sensible level then my next purchase won’t be it (I plan to buy a bike next September for around 5k to tick the boxes of: Aero, carbon & integrated).
jhsmith87 wrote:
There are quite a few differences in build (Rival vs Force for example), but I hear you. Just keep in mind it also took about a year before we were able to do that EXPLORO build, it requires ramping up production quite significantly and some good preparation to do it well.
And yes, that changes the proposition for a lot of people, that’s clear, even a few months after the introduction of the complete EXPLORO we see that €3990 for a complete Exploro is a magical price for many people. Not sure we can ever do that with the STRADA, it’s just a much more complicated frame and fork, but it’s not that we’re not aware. That said, in many markets the STRADA is already sold out, so we’re not complaining (except that we wish we could increase production quicker, but better to do it steadily).
I like the idea of the 9-32
I like the idea of the 9-32 tooth cassette on a sub-compact 48/32. More top end than a 50/11 but easier bottom end than a 34/32 particularly for those of us who find really steep long hills particularly challenging as there are so few in the area I live in but do ride on occassion in sportives & audaxes. I know some of you will think if you cannot get up a hill with a 34/32 then you’re not trying but being the wrong side of 55 some of us need all the help we can get…
I still don’t think it’s time
I still don’t think it’s time to ditch the front mech. There has been quite a lot of development in rear mechs over the years but the front mech is quite unchanged. Should companies not be developing and thinking more laterally with developing the front mech?
tugglesthegreat wrote:
I’d say the reverse is true. Front mechs have actually been pretty interesting in the past couple generations.
The jump from, say, Shimano 105 5700 to 105 5800 was characterized by the latter’s generational move to a longer arm. Having ridden bikes with both groupsets, the longer arm does reduce front shift effort at the left STI lever by a lot. The long arm did come with its own problems, though.
Now, with Dura-Ace R9100 and Ultegra R8000, we have a new design; 105 actually mimics their front mechs in the form of the new FD-5801. All three front mechs ditch the long arm design for something a little more discreet yet complicated, but they seem to have carried over the reduced front shift effort. It looks like the new design makes it easier for wider rear tire fitment.
tugglesthegreat wrote:
There’s no component with more lateral thought than the front derailleur, in fact that’s all it is. A bunch of plates that push laterally. 🙂
It’s a pretty rough component compared to the rear, I think there have been good developments, for example the move to electric shifting has improved the front more than the rear, but still it’s a bunch of plates pushing. I don’t see the industry putting much development into the front derailleur though, if 1×11 is not enough for everybody, I see more developments in changing the “11” than the “1” in that equation.
The obvious thing with this
The obvious thing with this bike is the 1X drivetrain, the review will obviously focus on this. It seems a little pointless to review it without the new 3T cassettes that the bike was designed with in mind. I hope you get it on there before the review is complete.
I like this bike (it seems a lot like my S5 with wider tyres), I think the drivetrain will be less of an issue with a road specific 1X cassette.
Everyone I speak to who’s
Everyone I speak to who’s ridden 1x on the road thinks that to keep similar ratios of 2x (which most people will use) you either loose the smooth gear changes at the top or the bottom end.. personally I can’t figure out which end I’d prefer to loose a smooth change of gears from.. living in a rolling landscape and riding local group club runs, I use 34/28 on the same ride I’ll use 52/11 week in week out. Isn’t that what ‘most British cycle club riders’ do also (unless you live in cambridgeshire).
In the media, I can’t hear anyone saying.. 1x’s great for a specific purpose but it’s no good for the majority of british club riders. No-one seems to have anything negative to say about it.
Am I just being a luddite here, I’ve got a bike on order with 2x however there’s an option for 1x, which I can quite easily change.. genuinely keen to understand. I’d like the ‘advantages of 1x.. but I don’t want to stitch myself up.
Should I be looking at 1x now and buy a change of front and rear cog’s (and chain) to cope with various scenarios.. ?
I’d give 1x a try. 50
I’d give 1x a try. 50 chainring with 11-42 cassette gives the exact same range as 50/34 11-28 (my normal combo). Comparing the ratios you admittedly lose 50×12 and 50×14 but the gaps are identical from 50×15 through 50×21 (probably where I spend most of my time). The gaps are larger at the top of the cassette but I’d be in the little chainring then anyway and happy to be able to rapidly lower the gearing. Huge dinner plate would look odd though
http://www.ritzelrechner.de/?GR=DERS&KB=34,50&RZ=11,12,13,14,15,17,19,21,23,25,28&UF=2125&TF=90&SL=2.6&UN=MPH&GR2=DERS&KB2=50&RZ2=11,13,15,17,19,21,24,28,32,37,42&UF2=2125
Would it kill them just to
Would it kill them just to have the braze on mount for a frint mech? I’ve not tried it, but im not sold on this 1x system. The big jumps in gear ratios would annoy me too much.
Luddite
I can only think of the 1x as super marketing BS.
Surely the driver for 8 to 9 to 10 to 11 speed rear cassettes was so that we can be in exactly* the right gear all the time. i.e. narrower ratios between gears, letting you spin away at whatever is best for you.
I will be gobsmacked if Aqua Blue Sport, who’ve signed up to use this bike next year, run 1x in a mountain stage. The steps between one cassette offering full-tilt descent max gearing and something allowing Conor Dunne to grind up the steep bits will be very large.
I truly can’t see past this problem – aero gains be damned.
Cat-1 problem – Neutral service wheels?
that red is going to clash
that red is going to clash with the Aqua Blue kit though
OK, so we can’t really sell
OK, so we can’t really sell them any more road bike stuff, and there are a lot of porky ex mountain bike and chubby sportive guys out there with lots of cash, what should we do ? I know ! We can put fat tyres, ridiculously low and high gears and other useless aero or suspension parts on. Kind of an aero/sportive/mountain bike thing. That should do the trick.
This is clearly not my type
This is clearly not my type of bike, but I have to admire it, couldn’t afford it either.
In terms of road use of 1* vs 2/3* for myself unlike on the MTB on road I tend around the middle of the gears, and having 1*9 on the commute bike, personally I’d love a 1* road bike at some point, clearly your mileage will vary!
For me the solutions for non
For me the solution for non professsional racers is either 3X or 1X. The 2X has all the extra parts with range not very far from 1X. I cannot understand why has it prevailed.
Looking at the clearance
Looking at the clearance between the front wheel and down tube, I hope they have made that front fork super stiff.
I can see that tyre rubbing the downtube under heavy braking, which from experience, I can assure you is a shit thing to happen.
Still unconvinced by 1x for the road. MTB yep, mud clearance, greater chainrings clearance. Cross, yep, only need a relatively small range if gears, plus mud clearance and chain ring clearance. But for the road… you need a wide range of gears for hilly terrain, and you need closely spaced gears for comfort and efficiency.
Oh and the is no need for mud clearance, or indeed chain ring clearance.
That front clearance when you
That front clearance when you hit a stretch of newly ‘dressed’ road is going to ruin your day, and your frame.
fluffed wrote:
Well, somehow we haven’t seen thousands and thousands of TTers or triathletes with ruined frames even though the gap is the same.
I expected that the 1x aspect
I expected that the 1x aspect will be the most discussed on this page 🙂
Two of my road bikes are 2x, one is 1x and I firmly believe that this decision is only a matter of compromise.
On 2x side there is the range and small cadence steps, on 1x there is silent drivetrain (due to narrow/wide rings), easier maitenance (on Sram rear derailleur there is a lock that removes tension from the chain and you can jus put the chain off the chainring and clean it properly) and no chain rub.
Since I use both systems, I could live with only 1x, but there is no need.
IfI had the funds to buy this bike, I would use smaller range cassette (11/32 or smaller and several chains/chainring combos to suit different terrain.
… And the future is fugly.
… And the future is fugly. As for 1x it’d make sense on a daily commuter, where I’d never need anything taller than a 46×11 or summat. But on the Sunday best, not so much.
mingsta wrote:
I hit 37mph within 2 minutes of leaving home just going to Tesco 1.7 miles away and spin out on my daily on its 48/12 top gear regularly and I don’t even live in a particularly hilly area.
It’s the (relatively) big gaps in a 1x that are not really ideal for efficient cycling, it’s okay if you want to potter around/leisurely commute and you don’t need much above a 24T sprocket but cassettes with a 30T or bigger with an 11 or even 12 first position and the gaps are noticeable when you’re used to the closer ratios of modern multi-speed gearing. It can upset your rythm/cadence even for commuting.
the reason i still like a triple is you can run a 11-25/26 and still have a decently low enough gear to get you up an alpine ascent even when you’re very much the wrong side of 40 and 100kg but also have the big dog for when you want to hammer it. Having those much smaller gaps when transitioning gradients or if you’re struggling and keeping your cadence is quite important I feel.
I used to have an old 6 speed hi-lo, there was a massive gap between the bottom three and the top three but at least the sprockets were relatively close (for the time) at each end, when using an ‘alpine’ set up 14/16/18/24/28/32 was actually extremely helpful/useful. Being able to fit your own sprockets onto a freewheek body to suit the terrain and your own personal requirements is something that is so much harder to do these days.
1x is not going to be much use in compeition road racing, as i said a month or two back on another thread, maybe in a flat stage or crit but for the sake of a few grams, running out of gears and/or having jumps that mean you lose rythm is simply not a good exchange IMHO.
Love it. End of.
Love it. End of.
So 3T are willing to drop the
So 3T are willing to drop the x2 for a x1 and loose the undeniable benefits of closer gear ratios for a small aero gain, but they can’t be arsed to hide the cables up at the pointy end?
Jumbotron wrote:
That was my first thought too – for that sort of price I’d expect a BMC style full integration of hoses and cables/wires with them routed down the bars and headtube. Disc hoses and Di2 don’t require straight cable runs, you can bend them round all sorts of corners and they’ll still be perfect.
1x makes a lot of sense for certain applications, notably crit racing. Many UK road race circuits could also comfortably be ridden on a 1x.
I have 1x with Bailout and
I have 1x with Bailout and Overdrive, it’s called a triple…
I keep comming back to the
I keep comming back to the same question, “who needs 1x more, us or the manufacturers and retail outfits?”
WashoutWheeler wrote:
Isn’t the answer in the vast majority of purchases of any kind, including virtually any bike anybody buys unless their current one just got trashed or stolen, that people don’t “need” anything?
I’m intrigued and would like
I’m intrigued and would like to try it.
Clearly there is a compromise here with either the gear range or some steps. That means the claimed gains – simplicity, cost, weight and aero have to outweigh those for it to be a sensible proposition – clearly very subjective.
Personally, I rarely push hard downhill (I’m normally resting from having done the uphill bit) and the 3T overdrive 9-32 new cassette with a 36T chain ring would cover 99% or more of my pedal strokes.
The best answer would be cassettes that are made up of single rings (or at least small sets of rings) so that you can easily build your own cassette, I bet that when it comes to chain and cassette changes only about 3 or 4 of the middle gears are actually wornenough to justify the change.
What we really need are some comprehensive tests of these bikes to test their aero credentials and actually see how much of the claims are real and how much is marketing guff purely designed to part us from our cash
As for the 3T, it’s ugly, it
As for the 3T, it’s ugly, it has LESS tyre clearance than frames from a few years ago used in the cobbled classics, it’s overtly spendy, did I mention it’s ugly.
The ‘future’ would have a replaceable/flexible LCD screen that you can affix to the stem/bars for data readout and an internal data sending transmitter (instead of that fugly stickyout thing) plus a micro battery for the electronic systems that recharges on the go using ‘wobble’ technology or even draws energy wirelessly from detachable solar panels.
Also maybe an internal hub gear system with 14/15 gears that are operated wirelessly as we have with derailleur systems already, you get a more reliable system, robustness AND much more aero.
So have a crash and broken derailleur is not an issue, wheel changes with a wireless internal hub would be the same as now.
The aero offsets any transmission losses which are minimal when compared to the robust and touring orientated Rohloff which could be made more effficient at the expense of outright longevity which even if reduced would still be greater than the life of a derailleur system.
Other positives from an internal gear system would be the ability to have more even and higher spoke tensions giving stiffer wheels and straight chain line ALL the time.
More ‘future’ would be the ability to vary the tyre pressures at any given point, massive advantage on cobbled rides which you’re balancing the pressures to take into account super smooth roads with sections you want relatively low pressures or when the weather changes both in temperature and precipitation.
You could even have an inetrnal ass-saver that can be deployed from the saddle and retracts when not needed.
This bike is not the future but same old shit with disc brakes that make jack shit difference except in very extreme conditions perforamnce wise and won’t make riding any safer.
One last thought on future, gear shifting, gloves with the ability to shift gears by simply flicking the fingers/making a gesture like swiping a screen only without physical contact.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
It’s been designed as a specific road race bike – not a touring bike, not an eco-friendly/practical “ability to recharge on the go”. In terms of an out and out race bike, it’s not bad at all. Bit more integration with the front cables/hoses and possibly some marketing that says look, you’re expected to either do it yourself or have a mechanic to do it for you but customise the bike between each ride. Hilly road race? Fit the Bailout. Crit race? Fit the Overdrive.
It’s not far off what even relatively amateur CX racers will do in terms of selecting tyres/wheels by course, changing their 1x chainring to suit power course vs super muddy course. Track riders do it too, you always see people gearing up/down in between sprint and endurance sessions.
BehindTheBikesheds wrote:
Where are you based? Let’s go for a ride. You can see the 3T up close
David Arthur @davearthur
So will you admit you’re wrong and I was right, Blythe pretty much explains the problem which I said ages ago and I didn’t need to ride it to know it was going to be a load of poop
As they say, people tend to
As they say, people tend to overestimate short-term innovations and underestimate long-term innovations. I know companies working on most if not all of what you mention, but virtually none of it will appear in bike shops in the next three years.
And if the author calls the 3T STRADA “the most exciting/radical/groundbreaking/divisive/controversial new bike launched this year”, i don’t necessarily agree but the fact is that most other bikes launched must have ranked even lower on your innovation wish list. “X% stiffer in the BB, Y% stiffer in the headtube, available in disc and rim brake versions and with a D-shaped seatpost”, that seemed to be the press release for most bike launches this year.
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TTs are generally on newly
TTs are generally on newly gravel dressed roads? There’s a few weeks a year where I can’t avoid the things, and it gets stuck between my tyre & fork pretty often.
fluffed wrote:
No, TT’s are not generally on newly gravel dressed roads, but I don’t know too many people who stop riding their TT/Tri bikes during those few weeks either. Anyway, by the fact that you already encounter the problem on your current bike, what’s the difference? The first scratch is the deepest, then we all just go on and enjoy the ride.
This thread has got proper
This thread has got proper involved. I am off to get a bag of popcorn, so I can sit back and enjoy. Great stuff. Fwiw, I think Vroomen is right (if its him).. especially about how crappy most front mechs are.
All of these queries about 1x
All of these queries about 1x, the hype and the suitability for British riders can be answered just as soon as we can demo one.
where can I demo one? Warwickshire here.
I’m interested in seeing a
I’m interested in seeing a full review of this bike. I’ve never ridden 1x before except in the guise of my 11 speed Alfine bike. The spread of gears on that is fine (as long as you ignore the recommended ratio of chainset to sprocket) but the steps between gears is noticeable. It’s fine for commuting but you would feel it racing. Now the Alfine is more evenly stepped so perhaps the 3T cassettes will address the problem to some extent.
The tyre clearances look too small for British wet roads. The price way too steep. But it could spawn some interesting designs.
One year on….
The reviews are in. https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/day-one-thought-not-good-idea-adam-blythe-slams-one-bike-demise-aqua-blue-sport-392905
Die, 1x, die.
TheLonelyOne wrote:
Quelle surprise.
Perhaps vroomen will come
Perhaps vroomen will come back and explain why Blythe is wrong and he’s still right
3T RIP?
3T RIP?
Tempted by one of those Team
Tempted by one of those Team AB framesets that Sadfleback are selling for £3900, I think it’ll be like owning a DeLorean or a Sinclair C5 in a few years