Our story yesterday about Emma Way, the Norfolk motorist who knocked a cyclist off his bike, drove away and boasted about it in on Twitter not only went viral on social media, but has also exploded on mainstream media.
The cyclist involved, Toby Hockley, told road.cc and BBC News Norfolk that he was “lucky to be alive” following a collsion and Ms Way's on a single lane country road in which he was thrown on to the bonnet of her car and then bounced off, going through a hedge and in a fine piece of bike handling managing to regain controls of his machine and stop.There’s no update yet on what action police intend to take against the motorist, Emma Way although they have spoken to her.
On Sunday, she had tweeted: “Definitely knocked a cyclist off his bike earlier. I have right of way – he doesn't even pay road tax!," complete with the hashtag “#Bloodycyclists."
From Ms Way's point of view the use of that hashtag was the culmination of a series very poor decisions, as we reported yesterday her tweet was quickly spotted by cyclists, many of whom took screen grabs not just of that tweet, but also tweets in which she bragged about the speed she drove at – and a picture of what she claimed was the speedometer of her car doing 95mph. As Ms Way was to rapidly find out there is no hiding place on Twitter and in what was to prove a social media perfect storm it was rapidly picked up by first road.cc and then other news outlets including The Guardian, Daily Mail, Independent, Huffington Post and many others… and then it went global. By the end of the day the story had broken every traffic record for a story on this site.
More pertinently for @EmmaWay20 her tweet had been brought to the attention of the police who urged her to get in touch – Way had already deleted her Twitter account, but police have confirmed they have spoken to both parties – and her employers have distanced themselves from her remarks and opened an investigation.
Had she not tweeted Ms Way would probably have had nothing more to worry about other than some slight dents to her car, Mr Hockley had decided to take no further action, "you count your limbs and carry on" he memorably told us. This being a digitally connected age though he did leave respond to Ms Way's tweet by posting a message to her Facebook page.
"Oh hi! That was me you hit and FYI, you didn't knock me off, I'm too hard to be hurt by a pissy micra or whatever it was you were driving."
Meanwhile, that #bloodycyclists hashtag has been reclaimed by cyclists today at the suggestion of Danny Williams of the Cyclists and the City blog, with a sample of tweets using it including:
lennyshallcross @lennyshallcross
I am a #bloodycyclists just trying to get about London. Would be nice not to risk my life every morning just trying to get to work.
Sean Perry @niceguysean
I'm one of those #bloodycyclists, broken my back and femur in accidents with cars. Still cycling. Why? Because I still can. Share the road.
Jo Bray @MissJoBray
@citycyclists I'm one of those #bloodycyclists and I dearly would like to be able to go home to my family in one piece!
Ian Hargreaves @madcycling_boy
No other hate crime gets bragged about on twitter the same way. When will the law sort this out? #bloodycyclists
Another thing Sunday’s episode has done, with our initial coverage picked up by local and national media, is prompt an examination of the relationship between cyclists and “road tax” – which hasn’t existed since the 1930s, as Carlton Reid’s I Pay Road Tax website outlines.
Despite the efforts of Reid and others to correct the widely held but mistaken assumption that it is drivers who pay for roads, and cyclists don’t – most adult cyclists are of course motorists and will therefore pay Vehicle Excise Duty, even if they choose to use two wheels for some journeys – it’s clear that some parts of the media get it more than others.
In the former camp, as you’d expect, is the Guardian Bike Blog. Today, Dawn Foster used Way’s tweet as the introduction to a reflection on what it said about the sense of entitlement and primacy over other road users some motorists believe they have because of that misconception that they are paying for the roads.
“I've been told to "pay road tax" more times than I can remember, though sadly explaining the intricacies of road taxation… takes longer than the few seconds you get on the road,” wrote Fraser.
“And when this entitlement dehumanises cyclists to the extent someone is happy to excuse hitting a cyclist by explaining they don't believe they should be on the road at all, it becomes more than an annoyance – it's an active danger.”
BBC Radio Norfolk used the story as the starting point for a phone-in discussion trailed as “Should cyclists pay tax to use the roads?”
Reid – a guest on the programme, so at least that misleading title should have been quickly corrected – pointed out on Twitter, it’s not unusual for such shows to throw down a controversial viewpoint as a means of stimulating debate.
In this case, however, it’s not just controversial – it’s incorrect, of course, but the fact that an institution many still see as a trusted source of news can perpetuate the myth may go a long way towards explaining why the misunderstanding surrounding “road tax” remains so entrenched; if the BBC says it’s so, it must be right?
Of course, the BBC is a big organisation and BBC Radio Norfolk just one of its outposts; elsewhere it does get it spot-on, such as in a sidebar to its interview with Toby Hockley, where BBC News Norfolk correctly explains the situation:
The so-called 'Road Tax'
The comment on Twitter suggested Toby Hockley, as a cyclist, does not pay "road tax".
A road tax does not exist in the UK but the term is commonly and incorrectly used to refer to the Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), or "car tax" paid on most motorised vehicles as a tax on emissions.
Roads are funded by all UK taxpayers under general and local taxes.
Source:Gov.uk
























60 thoughts on “Twit and run story goes viral, police question driver, cyclist’s Facebook response, #bloodycyclists hashtag reclaimed”
Quote:
… an institution
The BBC???
Only those with their head under a pillow singing La-La-La could think this after the last few years
mad_scot_rider wrote:
The
Well, there’s a lot of people doing that, then – average trust rating of 6.5 out of 10 in January (so post-Saville scandal breaking).
Don’t shoot the messenger, eh 😉
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/broadcasters/viewer-trust-in-bbc-recovers-after-jimmy-savile-scandal/5051971.article
For news output I’d trust the
For news output I’d trust the BBC over anything Sky News says, what with them being part of that “incoruptable” organisation News Corp, because they never hack your mobile or anything would they! 😕
Send a cease and desist
Send a cease and desist letter to TV licensing in Bristol
Paying this filthy poll tax to the pile of excrement that is the BBC is an act of utter stupidity
I have never had a TV license and never will
I refuse to hand a penny over to those stinking morons
The cease and desist letter will prevent their goons from coming to your property to pilfer your cash
scumbags
Lane71 wrote:Send a cease and
My mum always refused to buy a TV license, instead she spent her money on a shotgun, the one time the TV licensing guy came round she pointed the shotgun at him and informed him that he was trespassing on private land and it would probably be best if he refrained from doing so. This was some 20 years ago and she has heard nothing since.
Ian Hargreaves’ tweet is
Ian Hargreaves’ tweet is particularly pertinent.
Genuinely hope she loses her
Genuinely hope she loses her job over this
Cycle_Jim wrote:Genuinely
Really? Why? As far as I can her job has nothing to do with this, of course she should accept the consequences of her actions but to suggest that she lose her job is a bit much IMO.
Or has social media and indeed commenting on websites such as this got to the stage now where it should impact directly on out lives should we say something wrong?
Oh and I wish the driver who hit me had owned up on Twitter, would make the insurance claim a lot easier!
thebungle wrote:Cycle_Jim
+1
(Pedantry alert). It’s
(Pedantry alert). It’s “Licence”. “License” is a verb.
should we add
should we add #bloodypriusdrivers to the #bloodycyclists as they dont pay vehicle tax (so called road tax) either as a band A CO2 emitting vehicle?
Do the “You don’t pay road
Do the “You don’t pay road tax” spouters expect trams to get out of their way as well?
This is the same BBC that in
This is the same BBC that in the past 24 hours have announced as newsworthy that research suggests eating fresh vegetables is a better way to fight your cancer than eating chips (Jenny Murray) and that not having your baby in bed with you as you roll around in your sleep might reduce the risk of cot deaths. ( all stations).
When Wiggins got knocked of his bike Jeremy Vine was asking people to discuss whether as a pro cyclist he was riding too fast….
It’s this rush to look for controversy that makes the BBC so inane now.
I would advise them to buy up the ‘I Found A Bike Today’ and stick it on instead of The Voice on a loop. It would do more for viewing figures and the postive public perception of cycling than the Olympics and Sustrans combined.
‘My mum always refused to buy
‘My mum always refused to buy a TV license, instead she spent her money on a shotgun, the one time the TV licensing guy came round she pointed the shotgun at him and informed him that he was trespassing on private land and it would probably be best if he refrained from doing so. This was some 20 years ago and she has heard nothing since.’
What a delightful lady.
TBH, someone who takes a
TBH, someone who takes a corner fast enough that they end up on the wrong side of the road (if Mr. Hockley’s report is accurate) is a danger to *everyone* not just cyclists.
Mercury one – focusing on few
Mercury one – focusing on few parts of a massive whole to say that’s what the whole represents is misguided.
Thats exactly what the BBC
Thats exactly what the BBC is,a massive (sht)hole
Pedalling trite piss poor light entertainment reality TV shows and that misery cockney fest Eastenders day in day effing out
Shoving hundreds of thousands of pounds into the bank accounts of fcking chris moyles -Evans et al
no fucking way,not my money to those talentless dogs
Institutionalised kiddie fiddling and buggery for fucking decades rendering generations of kids mentally ill and thats without watching Jim ll fix it
yeah he’ll fix it alright,his grubby shrivelled nob up a 12 year old
Arselicking whichever government is in power,disseminating lies and misinformation over a whole host of important issues
Time to dismantle that filthy organisation,execute the board,particulary the odious slimeball Patten,the Lord protectorate of fcking Hong Kong before thefuckin chinese handed his public school ass on a plate
Remember kids,if the TV license goons come to your door,chuck a steaming hot bucket of shit and piss over the bastards and tell them to fuck themselves
scumbags X(
koko56 wrote:Mercury one –
Hmmmmm. I don’t think I suggested the whole BBC was? If you look again I was referring specifically to the way the BBC presents news stories in competition with commercial stations. After 40 years of listening to the BBC’s news service they are increasingly presenting ridiculous scenarios in debates in order to spice up phone-ins – and reporting the mind numbingly obvious as revelatory or perhaps debatable. Looking at the shambles they’ve made over factual news in the past 10 years: rolling over when threatened over stories they’ve got right (the dodgy dossier) or running around like headless chickens when they’ve got a story wrong (Savile) I have no problem with criticising them.
Lord Reith would have got the road tax story right and lit a rocket under Radio Norfolk for bad journalism. And judging by Jeremy Vine’s sometimes deliberately simplistic way of stimulating debate it’s little wonder he no longer felt qualified to host Newsnight. Thank God for that.
Like the cat by the way. Looks fluffy and cosy.
Anyone else have a sense of
Anyone else have a sense of outrage that no charges have been pressed as yet?
If that’s to be the case, why not just say its OK to run cyclists over and laugh about it?
I think I get more than my
I think I get more than my money’s worth out of the licence fee from podcasted radio programmes and the BBC website alone, plus HIGNFY, Question Time, MOTD and BBC 4’s music docs.
Not that that’s what this is about, but just thought I’d bring a little balance 😀
On the issue at hand, I sometimes worry a bit about how these Twitter storms get out of hand and descend into irrationality and abuse. Which is not to say that this thing in particular didn’t make me very cross, and it does highlight the weird attitude that some young drivers have wherein fellow human beings who happen to be using a different means of locomotion become targets for hatred slander and violence purely because of said transportation choice.
Wow…. Road.cc posters have
Wow…. Road.cc posters have nothing on Daily Mail readers when it comes to pouring vitriol on Ms Way! The paper and its readers have gone up in my estimation 🙂
Toby Hockley bears her no ill
Toby Hockley bears her no ill will – he just wants an apology, as he said earlier this evening on our Facebook page – I’ll take my cue from him.
She appears to be a rather stupid young woman, dangerously stupid, but even if Toby doesn’t want to take things further my guess is that she’s going to find it hard to argue her way out of a charge of failure to stop at the scene of an accident. Even if there are consequences because of that if she’s got half a brain, at some point in the future she’s going to realise she was lucky – she may think she’s in the shit now, but it’s nothing compared to what would have happened had she seriously injured or killed Toby on Sunday.
Also what’s the point of criticising people for displaying an irrational hatred of cyclists and then responding with more hatred? It just turns us in to a mirror image of them.
Nice one tony, right with you
Nice one tony, right with you there. The more we all get worked up, we lose our cool and simply contribute to more aggression on the roads. We can be better than that and rather than use our anger energy with aggression – use our brains more intelligently? How about roadcc set up a petition via tha govt e-petition website? (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/). I am sure the necessary 10,000 mark would be reached fairly quickly. 😀
Perhaps Toby Hockley thinks
Perhaps Toby Hockley thinks he’s being the bigger man by only asking for an apology, but he’d be doing a disservice to other cyclists and road users by not fully pursuing this matter to it’s logical legal conclusion.
Andrewwd wrote:Perhaps Toby
Well, anything he pursues personally would be a civil claim for damages. Whether he wants to do that is really his call. The thing that really affects the wider public (i.e. where the real penalties lie, like a driving ban for example) would be a criminal case. Mr Hockley doesn’t decide whether that goes ahead – that’s for the Police and the CPS to work out.
Andrewwd wrote:Perhaps Toby
I am inclined to agree with this. I was hit by a towed caravan because the idiot pulled in too quickly after overtaking into on coming traffic (and he wasn’t slowed down by me, in fact, from the tone of his approaching engine I could tell he never slowed down at all). I ended up being bounced down the side of his caravan whilst trying to prevent going off the side of the road or under his wheels (4 weeks later and the injuries have still not completely healed). He didn’t look back, notice or care that he was a fraction of luck and my skill away from putting me hospital, and of course none of the motorists behind reacted or were concerned for my safety either. Given that he didn’t stop and I was too busy trying to save my life, its no surprise that I didn’t get his details so couldn’t report it. Shame he didn’t tweet it… The point is that more incidents or near misses must occur than are actually reported, so on the few occasions that there is sufficient information to report the incident to the police and allow them to follow it up, we have perhaps a duty to ourselves and other riders to do so – perhaps then the the law has the opportunity to act as the deterrent it should be and tomorrow’s ride may just be a little safer…
@Lane71 yes the BBC irritates
@Lane71 yes the BBC irritates me sometimes too, but not to the point where I have to wipe froth and spittle off my keyboard. Anyway we like to keep things moderately civilized around here so it’d be appreciated if you toned it down a bit in future plus it’ll save you on loads on screen wipes.
tony_farrelly wrote:@Lane71
:O
Their early work was a little
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in ’83,I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.
The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost.
He’s been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.
In ’87, Huey released Fore, their most accomplished album. I think their undisputed masterpiece is “Hip to be Square”, a song so catchy, most people probably don’t listen to the lyrics. But they should, because it’s not just about the pleasures of conformity, and the importance of trends, it’s also a personal statement about the band itself. 😐
Do you like Huey Lewis and
Do you like Huey Lewis and the news? :/
^^^ hahahahahahaha!
^^^ hahahahahahaha! Classic… Give me that axe, Eugene!
for the anti bbc brigade,
for the anti bbc brigade, ever been abroad? ever watched foriegn TV?
yes there is alot of things wrong with the bbc, but the alternatives!!!!!
mrmo wrote:for the anti bbc
You are right about foreign TV; some do not even speak English!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am very interested in the
I am very interested in the outcome of this; where people have made threats on Twitter they have ended up in the s**t. So is it OK to boast about trying to kill someone but not make threats?
I feel a driving awareness course coming up for someone
And you need to post more on here Lane71…. Lane70 was OK, but you sound great! But ease up on the swear words or you will upset Stumps…
Quote:Really? Why? As far as
She is a trainee accountant, i believe, read the rules of the professional organisations to which she has to subscribe. Her actions could be seen as making her ineligble, ie she has potentially destroyed her own career.
This young woman is a MENACE
This young woman is a MENACE to society!! Good thing we all don’t do things the Emma Way!
As for Car Tax (now VED) some vehicles emit such low emissions there’s no duty to pay on them.
Emma Way needs to do a prison term for attempted murder!
Mercury one – dono, seems
Mercury one – dono, seems that’s what you were implying. I overlook things you mentioned. Not out of any fanatical like of BBC but because of taking other things into account that they create. The reason things like that stand out with BBC where with other companies it would not even register is indicative of the overall standard.
What is it with young women
What is it with young women when they get into cars? They seem to think no rules apply to them . .
Ms Way fought the internet,
Ms Way fought the internet, and the internet won. There’s been a perfect storm brewing for while, and she went out kite flying with wet shoes. It was never gonna turn out well for Ms Way.
Now we’ve had a few days of frenzied comment, some more considered and intelligent than others, may be a good time for a little meta-analysis of differing attitudes from readers of different media outlets.
Surprising, no tied to chair with a wet sponge on my head shockingly, comment in the Daily Mail is almost entirely pro-cyclist. How much of this is guerrilla warfare by militant cyclists (keep the flag flying guys) mobilising via social media I don’t know. But in any event, I wept sweet tears of happiness when I clicked on best and worst rated comments.
Guardian is – strangely – a more contested battleground, with 1 or 2 principled and ardent pro-cycling commentators leading the charge. Not much sandals and muesli in evidence, more napalm and shreds of trollflesh.
Huffington Post – an internet based news outlet, one would expect a younger and more internet/media savvy audience. Well, it’s hand to hand fighting here, head over if you want to get your hands bloody. Lots of blaming the victim and road tax / compulsory insurance / Mamils raped my dog comments.
And Pistonheads forums. Wtf. Wtfingf. Only 2 pages of forum postage, but broadly pro-tolerance and anti-idiot. Still blinking.
On a side note, can’t help wondering what’s happening on her insurance side of things. If there’s any indemnity / disclosure / fronting issues (as there all too frequently are with young drivers), her motor insurer policy may end up being voided, and the insurer pursuing Ms Way for any costs they have to bear as RTA insurer. Which would be a unfortunate sequence of events. Ms Way, if you wish to post requesting bike buying advice, road.cc’s a friendly bunch. Really.
((another) Pedantry alert).
((another) Pedantry alert). According to the Guardian’s own website the name of the writer of that article is Dawn Foster (not Fraser).
[gold]Mamils raped my
[gold]Mamils raped my dog[/gold]
use the correct tag ffs
And Pistonheads forums. Wtf.
Personality tests as part of
Personality tests as part of the driving exam?
Municipal Waste
You will find that its estimated that around 10 – 15% of the population have some kind of personality disorder.
What is incredulous is that with every other form of licensing, or official documentation, you are expected to renew it on a regular basis (passports, for instance).
With a driving license, you could pass your test at 17 and then never face having to renew your license again, nor be required to submit to eye testing.
The law needs to change immediately that licenses need to be renewed every 5 years (annualy for professional drivers?) and compulsory annual eye tests for all.
It could be implemented by insurance companies offering reduced premiums to those who provide certification. That way, it doesnt stop people from driving but makes it damn more expensive if they dont want to play along.
zanf wrote:Municipal Waste
+1 for everything that zanf says.
In no other form of transport (in fact no other area of general life) would this be tolerated.
If you were to walk up to a H&S person now and say “I’d like to introduce a form of transport where we only test once, we have unqualified people with no PPE filling up cars unsupervised in public with highly flammable liquid, we have no solid enforcement structure but hey, it’ll make life so easy for everyone” he’d look at you as if you were insane.
It simply wouldn’t be tolerated but, becasue we’ve kind of evolved alongside it, it’s become accepted. Hundreds of deaths per year, millions in insurance payouts, tens of billions of pounds of infrastructure; it’s all regarded as an acceptable cost for “free and easy” movement.
Just unbelievable.
pistonheads i find to
pistonheads i find to generally be a pretty level-headed place when it comes to discussions like this. much more so that the guardian, that’s for damn sure
Dave Atkinson
In the cycling sub-forum, at least. As a website for enthusiast drivers, the cycling area seems mostly to be populated by enthusiast cyclists and commuters (as opposed to loony lefties using bikes to make a political point). Very inclusive.
Lane71 – Brilliant rant.
Lane71 – Brilliant rant. Though actually I don’t mind the BBC so much. If you’ve ever been to the States and watched Fox and some of the other networks you’d be throwing your arms open wide with tears in your eyes to see the Beeb.
In respect to Ms Way. From what I’ve read the police appear to have dropped the ball again, but may be I have misread, but I thought I had read a statement that the matter is now closed.
I hope her employers also tick her off like the naughty school girl she is. I think what has happened (and she is probably well aware of her mistake through the general media and social media by now I think) will have taught her a lesson that I hope she never forgets.
As a 19 year old she has made some questionable decisions, and her attitude has been reckless, but no one died (thankfully) and so I hope that she can learn her lesson without too many consequences. Losing her job is definitely not one of those I would advocate if she has learned her lesson.
If not, she will soon come a cropper again, and the consequences will be far more dire. I do hope that she at least apologises and makes good any damage to Mr Hockley’s bike.
Lack of action would send a
Lack of action would send a bad signal.
Silly bint. I propose that
Silly bint. I propose that she is made to ride the entire north and south circular on a £100 ASDA full ‘suspension’ behemoth.
Maybe then she’d realise what kind of responsibility you inherit when you are behind the wheel of a 1 tonne block of metal which can travel at 100mph. Although sadly, I think it would totally lost on the dappy tart. LOL OMG innit.
Surely, all she has to say is
Surely, all she has to say is that she saw that the cyclist was still on his bike and didn’t appear to be hurt. Then add that her tweet was meant as a joke.
I don’t see this going much further as the poor bloke miraculously escaped injury. On the upside, it’s brought the Road Tax nonsense into the public eye.
Lane’s rant forgot to mention the BBC’s disgraceful pro-monarchy propaganda!
Pistonheads also has a
Pistonheads also has a healthy forum sub-section called ‘pedal-powered’, where many of them talk about bikes of all forms.
Even the BBC’s getting
Even the BBC’s getting involved now
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22614569
Emma Way must be a real
Emma Way must be a real empty-head: filming and posting her speedometer at 95mph, knocking-down a cyclist, then bragging about it on twitter, with the #bloodycyclists hashtag. Not the brightest . . . , etc, etc. :B
A week or two ago I was cycling along a road when a silver penis-extension Mercedes deliberately pulled out in front of me. :O
How did I know it was a deliberate act, you ask?
I could see the driver smirking and laughing in his wing mirror as he moved off, caused me to hit the brakes, skid and swerve.
The fact that I could see him in such detail also goes to show how close I was, about 10metres and travelling at about 20-25mph, when he pulled out.
He wasn’t laughing when he got out, around the corner, to have a go only to see me jump off my bike and head straight for him, fists ready. 👿
He backed down, got back in his car and drove off, the cowardly bully.
You do, occasionally, get these f*ckwits; happily and luckily nobody was seriously injured or killed in this incident, as Emma Sh*t-for-brains Way accidentally outed herself, proving that there are much more stupid birds in Norfolk than the turkeys. B-)
It’s nice to see that a good
It’s nice to see that a good number of Sun readers have rallied round, criticising all cyclists for having the temerity to ride on the roads, and for riding on the pavement. I hope this sorry chain of events will teach Ms. Way a valuable lesson, and that the next time she knocks a cyclist through a hedge she has more sense than to incriminate herself online.
She does look and sound ahttp://www.itv.com/news/anglia/update/2013-05-22/im-sorry-says-cycle-tweet-girl/
She does look and sound a little bit more respectable than her twitter account suggested. Bit of a Father Jack-type (a la Father Ted) apology though perhaps.
I dont know about her losing
I dont know about her losing her job, but it’s a case of her learning actions have consequences. So just an apology should not be enough – she could have killed him, and happily she didnt, but somehow she needs to be made to understand the seriousness of what happened. I’ve been bounced off a car wing and its no fun, and it certainly made me quite irate. Tempting as it is to recommend ‘crucifixion is too good for her’ its more important to get her to a) understand b)change her behaviour and c) (optimistically) get her to act as an advocate of not being a twat to her friends.
whats amazing about that clip
whats amazing about that clip on ITV is that she appears to be apologising for sending the tweet rather than hitting the cyclist? Completely missed the point!
[[[[[ One can only hope her
[[[[[ One can only hope her car-insurance company doubles her premium, seeing as how she’s bragged publicly about leaving the scene of an accident, and failing to report it to police.
P.R.
There would need to be a
There would need to be a change in material fact – ceteris paribus, a fault claim or a criminal motoring offence lodged against the policyholder.