Toughest climb in the world? Phil Gaimon smashes KOM up 90km monster; “Watch and learn, my fellow motorists”: How to safely overtake a cyclist; “Unacceptable to attack our private life”: Marion Rousse hits back at Patrick Lefevere + more on the live blog
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"Watch and learn, my fellow motorists": How to safely overtake a cyclist (and get a thank you for it)
Let’s get Wednesday underway with some more footage from PassPixi, the cyclist behind the range of magnetic warning patches to tell drivers it might be best to be safe, considerate and smile, because you’re on camera…
Of course, none of the above would be necessary if everyone out there showed as much competency as this Dinsdale Contracts lorry driver.
“Watch and learn, my fellow motorists… great stuff from this Dinsdale Contracts driver. I got a cheery pip-pip too for slowing up and holding left,” PassPixi said.
Watch and learn, my fellow motorists… great stuff from this Dinsdale Contracts driver. I got a cheery pip-pip too for slowing up and holding left #cycling pic.twitter.com/59vCtSvyRI
— PassPixi (@PassPixi) February 20, 2024
Refreshing. As was the reaction, a couple of attention-seeking replies aside, everyone getting involved to think about how much safer the roads could be if this was the norm.
Road User 101: “Nice example of why there doesn’t need to be so much grief on our roads. Helping large vehicles to pass is easy and rarely time consuming. Passing safely is essential and rarely holds you up much, anyway.”
Andy Fallon: “It doesn’t take a lot does it? [I’ve] Done similar, flat road approaching a bend, nothing coming so slowed down so lorry could out, passed and in with no issues. Cost me about five seconds.”
Here’s another positive one…
This fantastic @PP_OConnor driver should give lessons on how to pass people on bikes!!! Love it #cycling pic.twitter.com/DUIb6GNahG
— PassPixi (@PassPixi) February 7, 2024
Worth highlighting the good ones that should set the standard when we get a chance, after all we’ve got more than enough in the archives at the other end of the scale.
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Patrick Lefevere accuses Julian Alaphilippe of "too much partying and alcohol", says he threatened to fire two-time world champion "on the spot" if "you mess up one more time"
[Zac Williams/SWpix]
Soudal Quick-Step team boss Patrick Lefevere making headlines with eye-catching comments about his own riders? Never…
Speaking to Flemish newspaper Humo ahead of the start of the classics this weekend, Lefevere accused two-time world champion Julian Alaphilippe of “too much partying” and “too much alcohol”, adding that in November he told one of his star riders that “if you mess up one more time, I’ll fire you on the spot”.
[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]
Addressing the Frenchman’s lack of results in 2023, Lefevere said he believed the explanation is Alaphilippe’s partying, and suggested “Julian is seriously under the spell of Marion [Rousse, his partner]”.
“Maybe too much. Julian is a young dog full of energy — you should let him cross in the yard every now and then. And you must also say: this far and no further. There is still a bad boy inside him,” Lefevere said.
“I spoke to him in November last year, in the presence of Marion and his manager Dries Smets. I said: ‘It cannot continue like this. If you mess up one more time, I’ll fire you on the spot.’ The message has arrived. He is getting back together.”
Coincidentally, the team’s own podcast aired today, a new episode with Alaphilippe featuring his admission that he has “lost that feeling” of “competing for victory” over the last two seasons.
“I want to become the best version of myself again, I believe that is possible. Now I just lack some self-confidence,” the 31-year-old, who has just begun the final year of his contract with the team, said.
Alaphilippe finished sixth on GC at the Santos Tour Down Under and will line up for Soudal-Quick Step at Omloop Het Nieuwsblad this Saturday.
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Adam Yates out of UAE Tour after heavy crash, Ben O'Connor wins stage three as Jay Vine takes race lead
Pre-race favourite Adam Yates is out of the UAE Tour. Yates’ abandon came after a heavy crash [below] during stage three, the British climber continuing for a short while before stepping off during the ascent to the finish at Jebel Jais.
المرشح الأول وقائد فريق «الإمارات» آدم ييتس يتعرض لحادث ويكمل السباق#طواف_الإمارات #UAETour pic.twitter.com/ZDUKtYK594
— قناة أبوظبي الرياضية (@ADSportsTV) February 21, 2024
It appeared Yates was back on his bike very quickly after the fall, prompting some to question if the appropriate concussion checks were made, concerns not yet addressed by the 31-year-old’s team or the race itself…
Why the hell is Yates not being checked for concussion? Completely ridiculous that he’s back on the bike without a concussion check after hitting his head this hard
— Jens Dekker (@jens_dekker) February 21, 2024
With Yates out, the door was opened to his teammates and rivals who sensed opportunity in the absence of the race’s leading climbing talent. UAE Team Emirates set the pace, a monstrous shift seen by Mikkel Bjerg at the head of the peloton, but it was Decathlon AG2R La Mondiale who earned the day’s victory with some clever teamwork and a perfectly timed two-up attack at one kilometre to go, setting up Ben O’Connor for solo victory.
الأسترالي بين أوكونور يفوز بالمرحلة الثالثة من طواف الإمارات..
شاهد إثارة اللحظات الأخيرة قبل خط النهاية.. #طواف_الإمارات #UAETour pic.twitter.com/r5tJkKrbRP
— قناة أبوظبي الرياضية (@ADSportsTV) February 21, 2024
The Australian climber was followed home by compatriot Jay Vine, who takes the race lead from teammate Brandon McNulty.
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"Unacceptable to attack our private life": Marion Rousse hits back at Patrick Lefevere, and says she never drinks
[ASO/Clara Langlois Lablatinière]
Not exactly the most shocking revelation of 2024, Patrick Lefevere opening his mouth and being made to look more than a bit silly. Marion Rousse, the former professional rider who has forged a successful post-racing career as a television pundit and director of the Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift, has responded to Lefevere’s comments published in the Belgian press this morning about her and her partner Julian Alaphilippe.
Scroll a bit further back on the live blog to see those in full, but the short recap is the Soudal Quick-Step team boss accusing Alaphilippe of too much partying and drinking, and claiming “Julian is seriously under the spell of Marion. Maybe too much”.
Cue social media statement from Rousse…
— Marion Rousse (@Roussemarion) February 21, 2024
“Whatever Mr Lefevere’s feelings towards me, it is unacceptable to attack our private lives as he does,” she wrote, before proceeding to drop the mic-drop line… “So no, I don’t drink alcohol, never even.”
“Missed for the holidays also because with a three-year-old we prefer to be in shape in the morning. You will also not succeed, as you have already mentioned to me, in preventing me from working to keep me busy and stay with Julian for the time of his career.
“I am passionate about the missions I carry out and know that I have a lot of projects. But I tell you, under no circumstances do I allow you to talk about my private life. Thank you now for stopping talking wrongly and showing more respect and… class.”
[Zac Williams/SWpix.com]
This is far from the first time Lefevere has come under fire for his words in the press. It’s almost a year to the day since he was heavily criticised after claiming that women’s cycling is “being pushed artificially” and that many pros “are not worth” the current minimum wage set by the UCI.
Last year too Lefevere accused Alaphilippe of “hiding” behind crashes and illness, while Remco Evenepoel said his boss, as well as his father, would be “better off keeping quiet” following contract speculation and rumours in the press.
Some of Lefevere’s most grimmest claims came in the form of his 2021 verbals against Sam Bennett, whose Tour de France absence saw Mark Cavendish step in and win four stages to match Eddy Merckx’s record, and included saying the Irishman had “played with his balls” by returning to competition with the Irish national team.
And it was in his Het Nieuwsblad column too where he compared Bennett’s return to Bora-Hansgrohe to a “woman who still returns home after domestic abuse”. Nice boss to work for…
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UAE Team Emirates confirm Adam Yates suffered concussion in UAE Tour crash
Adam Yates abandons the UAE Tour ❌
The UAE Team Emirates rider is forced to withdraw from the race after a horrible crash earlier on in Stage 3 🤕💥#UAETour2024 pic.twitter.com/4ghVCoXFW3
— Eurosport (@eurosport) February 21, 2024
The team of Adam Yates has now confirmed their rider suffered a concussion in the hard crash that ended his race, medical director Dr. Adrian Rotunno explaining…
Unfortunately Adam Yates has been diagnosed with a concussion after his crash today at the UAE Tour. He is stable with other superficial injuries. For the sake of Adam’s health, and as per concussion protocols, he was withdrawn from racing. He will need recovery, and the medical team will continue with neurological monitoring and rehab going forward
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Phil Gaimon smashes KOM for monster 90km climb
Hawaii is hill-climbing heaven (or hell, depending on your perspective)…
4:52:55. That’s hours, minutes and seconds… the new Strava KOM for the monstrous Waikoloa beach to Mauna Kea summit segment set by pro rider-turned-KOM hunter Phil Gaimon. Ascending a quite ridiculous 4,195 m, the 89.46km climb averages 4.7 per cent. That’s like Box Hill… 41 times.
Poor Decathlon–AG2R La Mondiale pro Larry Warbasse, all that effort and your KOM’s gone like that. More concerningly is Gaimon battling his way to the top over nearly five hours of exhausting climbing, only to not ride back down and enjoy the descent?! Psychopath behaviour… or maybe just someone strapped for time…
Where to next, Phil?
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@perce we all like a polite and courteous poster! Much as motorists like a polite and courteous cyclist doffing their helmet (possibly from a hedge they've obliging leapt into along, say, a leafy lane in Essex).
"attributed by experts", yeah sure, ok! Citing 8 year out of date per capita figures shows the weakness of your argument. Here's a couple of reasons I believe that the Netherlands fatality rate might be higher than the UK (independent of the crappy Dutch infrastructure), none of which you and Chrisonatrike suggested or mentioned: 1) not enough people wearing helmets in Netherlands. All sane people know that wearing a cycling helmet can potentially save lives, yet the Dutch seem to think themselves too special to wear one. Despite the fact the Netherlands has a superior privatised health system compared to our rotten, inefficient NHS, post-crash options are limited for people with severe head trauma which will inevitable lead to increased fatalities in the Netherlands. 2) Risk compensation by drivers and cyclists. Cyclists are lulled into a false sense of security thinking that segregated cycle lanes are their special infrastructure which insulate them from accidents. They don't. Then, car drivers take more risks due to increased congestion caused by the same cycling infrastructure, leading to a double-whammy of risky behaviour. 3) Cultural issues. People in the UK are renowned for their stiff upper lip, stoic, courteous behaviour. They naturally protect more vulnerable road users. I, myself, had a magnificent cycling experience earlier today on the local country lanes, waving and saying hello to the locals and cyclists alike. There really isn't a place like the UK (well, outside London anyway) that matches our hospitality and camaraderie. P.s. I'm not sure who Nigel is, I assumed you meant Nigel Farage but I can assure you I'm not him and that he has more pressing things to do than write responses on a cycling website. I hope that's helped your understanding a little, and enabled you to think a little independently rather than just suck in information that self-described "experts" want you to believe. Oh and Norway et Al are terrible comparators as hardly anyone lives there (and who'd want to to be honest? Lol!)
Yup. The UK has latterly tried add the safety back in after it was lost for vulnerable road users. (And after giving all the direct routes / valuable space over to motoring). But it's offering a modicum more safety in return for them losing a lot more convenience - so that has been reducing the "problem" also! Plus we lean heavily on "but people can be trusted to be reasonable" and "for any misbehaviour police it better". Unfortunately those are not good assumptions or choices for safety in a motornormative environment. (And road policing isn't a priority anyway). NL isn't the only place in Europe they've realised that mass motoring the old way is unsustainable (for lots of reasons). They're just the furthest on. In NL they still have some challenges because the (larger - thanks US!) car strikes back, and there are some questions about the impact of e-things. But they're *still* investing in improvements, and proportionally significantly more than the UK, even though they're already far ahead...
The Stockton Hub which I used occasionally (I don't live in Stockton) was open only during standard office hours, Mondays to Fridays, rendering it useless for families and leisure cyclists. It's a standard problem for a lot of government-funded or charity-run public services which close when many people most need them, presumably because staffing costs would rise substantially. The article also mentions cycle hubs in Redcar and Darlington which, so far as I can tell, have never existed.
Ho ho ho! No, we need to stop these idiotic cyclists completely (or limit them to velodromes, parks and maybe "rail trails") - that way there won't be any cyclist road fatalities! Simples! Meanwhile in many parts ofEurope they're finding the benefits of making it such that lots of people don't use cars for every journey - by fixing it so it's convenient and increasingly safe - despite much larger numbers of people getting around outside of cars than in the UK...
The fatality rate in the UK has fallen five years in a row during a period, starting with the Covid years, in which building of "idiotic Dutch roundabouts and segregated cycling infrastructure" has massively increased, so in fact using your own benchmark the statistics clearly show the benefits of increased cycling infrastructure. Not quite the gotcha you seem to think when viewed through non-troll lenses, Nige. The stupidity of your "argument" is further clearly illustrated by the fact that the list-topping Norway, Sweden and Denmark all have massive segregated cycling networks. The Dutch model used to demonstrate clearly the safer nature of the Dutch system, e.g. in 2018 the Netherlands had 8 fatalities per billion kms ridden compared to 21 in the UK; the primary reason for the increased fatality rates in the Netherlands has been attributed by experts to the massive uptake in ebikes (47% of new bikes sold in NL are now ebikes compared to 10% in the UK), particularly amongst the older population, nothing to do with the infrastructure.
It used to be great price this, but they played the ace marketing card and got the popularity and now...
Many thanks for posting these statistics and showing the downward trend in fatalities. One thing that stood out for me when clicking through to the government statistics page is the UK's exemplary record on this Vs other European countries, especially the much-vaunted record of The Netherlands, which actually shows twice as many fatalities as the UK per million of the population. The question that arises is therefore: why are the greens and other left-wing parties so keen to adopt an inferior and more dangerous road system when ours is obviously working well? It smacks of a need to regulate people's lives and curtail freedom. We need to stop these idiotic Dutch roundabouts and segregated cycling infrastructure, and get people sharing the road in a fair and equal manner, when the statistics show it's safer to do so. (Chart shows road fatalities per million population)
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It’s always the woman’s fault
It’s always the woman’s fault, isn’t it? Lefevre’s misogyny shining through again.
Steve K wrote:
Beat me to it, I’m a big fan of Alaphilippe but he’s a grown man for goodness’ sake and Lefevre is a cockwomble. Carrying on in a long historic tradition, Helen caused the fall of Troy, Cleopatra destroyed Marc Anthony, right the way up to Yoko broke up the Beatles, if there’s a woman involved, even peripherally, people like him will always know where to pin the blame.
Rendel Harris wrote:
I think you missed out the original – Eve getting Adam to eat the apple.
I’ve always liked apples.
I’ve always liked apples. Never waited for a woman to offer me one.
Or maybe he knows them better
Or maybe he knows them better than you do, and he has reason to believe the gentleman in question is not good at saying “no” to his lady.
john_smith wrote:
Or maybe he’s a notorious misogynist, responsible for such gems as “The reason there is more sexual harassment these days is because more women go out drinking” and “I’m not going to add a female team to Quickstep, I’m not a welfare centre.”
PS It’s perfectly clear what Lefevre is up to as he has done this with multiple riders in the past, he is now putting all his faith in Remco and doesn’t want to be distracted by having to support and particularly having to pay the wages of JA, so he starts sniping in the press until he pisses them off enough that they go elsewhere. It’s his standard MO. I would bet a pound to a penny that there is no substance to his claim that JA has been partying too hard or that he is under the influence of his wife, it’s just a way of insulting him in public in order to make him leave.
{quote]More concerningly is
I read in someone else’s account of doing that climb that is strongly recommended that you engage a support vehicle both for food and water on the climb and to take you back down, it’s really not recommended to do such a long descent, some of it 20% on gravel, just after such an absurd climb and at an altitude high enough to create the mental effects of altitude sickness.
Rendel Harris wrote:
Doesn’t seem quite ‘cricket’, carry all you need or just ride up in the car/helicopter
levestane wrote:
I’d say it’s probably virtually impossible to carry all the supplies you need for such a climb (mere mortals tend to do it in somewhere around nine or ten hours), remembering that even in February, Hawaii’s coolest month, the temperature is around 26°C and most of the route is in direct sunlight. Is it not cricket on a ride to stop and buy a bottle of water or a slice of cake to keep going? That’s an Henri Desgrange level of harshness!
No worries buying from
No worries buying from roadside shops, it’s the extra resource use of a dedicated support vehicle that jars.
levestane wrote:
Well there is a case against to be made, but given that, as above, for safety reasons it is strongly recommend than anyone who has ridden up doesn’t do the descent (only about 10% of those on Strava who’ve done the climb appear to have also done the descent) so the car is going anyway…the fact that he’s flown to Hawaii to do it is going to be a lot more resource-heavy than having a support car.
Jacob pointing out that,
Jacob pointing out that, unlike the poor, you cannot milk a cashew nut.
Good old Levefre.
Good old Levefre.
Worth noting that Dutch attitudes to women’s lib things differ slightly to anglo-attitudes. Some ways better, some ways behind.
Paul J wrote:
Isn’t he Belgian?
From the Dutch side of
From the Dutch side of Belgium, yes. Culturally no difference, within the gamut of cultures of the provinces of the old Netherlands. The Flemish are more dutch than Netherlanders in some respects (e.g., they speak “better” Dutch 😉 ).
The main reason Belgium exists, catholicism v reform and certain other ancient history political things are mostly irrelevant today (indeed, were never relevant to the average person in the case of some of the latter stuff).
Nation state != cultures.
As background, the modern
As background, the modern nation state of The Netherlands” and “Vlaanderen” in Belgium were once considered part of one “Netherlands” – before we had modern nation states.
Various political things – some of which aligned with religious differences (whether out of political convience, or actual strong belief) – led to a split where a large chunk of the northern portion became its own state, no longer ruled by rulers allied with the pope. That chunk is now the modern nation state we call the Netherlands. Those same politics also affected the United Kingdom. 😉
Culturally though, Flemish and (the state) dutch are all Netherlanders (in the old sense) and culturally dutch.
Note that most Flemish(that I know anyway) have a distinct identity as Flemish, very different to Hollanders. But then, so do many Friesians. And Fries (the Netherlandish dialect there) is a *lot* more different from Hollands dutch than Flemish dutch is to Hollands dutch.
I am butchering the history and the identities a lot, no doubt. There are many differences within the various people who speak (some dialect of) Dutch, but the commonalities are much stronger.
Apparently it sort of worked
Apparently it sort of worked
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/20/welsh-20mph-speed-limit-is-a-success-claims-government
And even Adrian Chiles is getting with it
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/21/20mph-speed-limit-seemed-unfeasible-i-learned-to-love-pootling-along
Did Gaimon wear those brown
Did Gaimon wear those brown sandals for his 90k KOM?? Now I know where I’m going wrong!
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Bit diminishing to dear old Box, even the shortest segment on Strava, from the bottom of ZigZag Road to the NT cafe, is 125 metres height gain, making Mauna Kea equivalent to 33 Box Hills; what I regard as the “proper” climb, from the roundabout up to the highest road point, is 167 metres, so “only” 25 times.
Rendel Harris wrote:
Bit diminishing to dear old Box, even the shortest segment on Strava, from the bottom of ZigZag Road to the NT cafe, is 125 metres height gain, making Mauna Kea equivalent to 33 Box Hills; what I regard as the “proper” climb, from the roundabout up to the highest road point, is 167 metres, so “only” 25 times.
Does that mean if I approach Zig Zag road from the other side (as I often do) I haven’t ‘done’ Box Hill. (I agree about the top end, though – that drag after the cafe always catches me out!)
Fair point, I only meant
Fair point, I only meant “proper” as in the full extent of ZigZag Road side climb; I too nearly always approach it from the other side and then descend ZigZag, turn at the roundabout and climb back up and I would say that the long drag up from Langley Vale through Headley Common is actually harder work, generally shallower gradients (though with a couple of stinging ramps) but the sheer length of it takes more out of the legs than the few minutes (alright, the nine or ten minutes) ZigZag entails.
Rendel Harris wrote:
I was only joshing. Though I meant approach Zig Zag road from Mickleham side (rather than from the Burford Bridge roundabout). I very rarely approach Box Hill from the other side in the way you describe. Actually, given how close it is to where I live, I actually rarely do Box Hill at all.
Steve K wrote:
I probably wouldn’t if I lived close, there are plenty of less crowded climbs in the Surrey Hills that I like better, but coming from central London it makes a nice turnaround point for a 75 km ride – and the flapjacks at the NT café are particularly good…
Good old Scottish justice.
Good old Scottish justice.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-68347674
Twice the limit and 140 mph but can’t be jailed.
What is wrong with the system and is anyone going to fix it ?
Hirsute wrote:
Dire. Some here will not wish to raise their blood pressure with this one.
Clearly (to paraphrase Napoleon) we don’t want good drivers, we want lucky drivers.
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Because if you get hit by somebody who is plastered aged forty-five with a previous conviction at 140 mph you will somehow be less dead?
Not only not jailed, but only
Not only not jailed, but only banned for 16 months!