Contending with angry drivers on the streets of London is bad enough, but the last thing you expect commuting across the capital is to be deliberately knocked off your bike by another rider. but that's exactly what happened to Raphael Carrondo back in August, and he'd still like to find the rider responsible.
As you can see in this video, Carrondo was riding east along Victoria Embankment at about 5:15 pm on August 6 when he overtook a rider on a BMX at the pedestrian lights just outside Embankment Station.
As he approaches a bus the rider on the BMX attempts to undertake him, though Carrondo says he didn't realise that until he got home to Canary Wharf and watched the footage from his camera.
The first he knew that he had a problem was when the rider kicked his front wheel, Carrondo told ITV News.
He said: "This guy just came out of nowhere and leathered my front wheel.
I went flying over the handlebars and my head almost went under the bus – it was terrifying."
When he watched the video, he realised what had happened.
"I didn't see him trying to cut me up, because I was concentrating on overtaking the bus safely," he said. "I had to swerve and he shouted something at me.
"I'd forgotten about it – that sort of thing happens all the time on the roads.
"But then he just pedalled past and smashed my front wheel with his boot.
"It was ridiculous – it's the most dangerous thing I've ever seen on a cyclist's cam, and unfortunately it happened to me. I could have easily died."

























36 thoughts on “Video: Cyclist kicked into road – by another cyclist”
https://www.youtube.com/watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI0lZVdSMUU#t=10
OK, the lengthier footage of
OK, the lengthier footage of this incident shows the camera dude coming past the BMX at a set of changing lights, the BMX accellerates til he’s alongside, and camera dude does not move out to allow both past the bus. Nasty trick to kick the wheel, but no one here is being courteous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHy82l8oMpM
I agree DrJDog that camera
I agree DrJDog that camera cyclist was discourteous, but the two actions aren’t even comparable. One is being a jerk, the second (the kick) is just plain assault at least.
DrJDog wrote:OK, the
I disagree. Sometimes in fast moving traffic you’re a bit wary of pulling out too far into a lane while overtaking in case someone from behind hasn’t seen you or pulls into the lane themselves from the other side – in this example the cars weren’t respecting the lane as containing cyclists (and giving them a cars width when overtaking) so for the cyclist to vear out suddenly without looking to let the twat undertake could have been very, very dangerous.
Basically the twat shouldn’t have tried to force his way out into the first place. I’ve ridden that route hundreds of times in rush hour and you need to plan ahead and be aware of whats around you – and you cant expect people to magically get out of the way when doing a d*ck move like that.
Lets hope he gets arrested and put away for a few nights at least.
and once again I’m damn glad
and once again I’m damn glad I don’t live in London (or have to go there except for “leisure”) … I’ve just got the NewForest NIMBY’s to cope with … not sure what’s worse now I come to think of it?
Must have been a BMX Bandit.
Must have been a BMX Bandit.
I could be wrong but the name
I could be wrong but the name on the down tube appears to say Trail M so the bike may be a Trail Mate? Seems to be a vintage make from Florida(?), if correct I doubt there are many in London which might help. http://bmxmuseum.com/bikes/T/
lessismore wrote:I could be
The frames a ‘TrailorPark’ made by BSD, they’re fairly common and currently in vogue. If it was bought from a shop in London it might have come from Volt BMX in Stoke Newington. If it was bought online you’ve little to no chance of finding the rider.
Leeroy_Silk wrote:lessismore
Interesting – I note the BMX does have a brake, which marks it out from the usual skatepark rider bike.
I’d like to see this from a
I’d like to see this from a helmet cam, the bmx was in front of him and he didn’t notice (really?) – looks to me like the cyclist doesn’t give the bmx any space at all on the first overtake, then refuses to move out for him at the second – hardly doing himself any favours. Maybe he’ll give other cyclists more room in future…
Wonder why this is doing the
Wonder why this is doing the rounds again? Saw it on Reddit back in August
Hmm, the bloke on the road
Hmm, the bloke on the road bike was overtaking and given that there would be traffic coming up the outside, was making a reasonable move if you ask me. The BMX rider started to pull out without looking and then realised he was being overtaken. Maybe the roadie could’ve anticipated better and slowed up, especially seeing as the BMX guy may have been brakeless (hard to be sure). But there’s no excuse for this sort of behaviour, none at all.
I see BMX as overtaken by the
I see BMX as overtaken by the roadie at the lights (and probably the other two as well). He then under takes and tries cut out infront instead of dropping in behind prior to his despicable act.
All the wrong in one camp for me – but being a cynical old git, I’d love to know if there was anything between them that preceded this.
Camera wielding roadie could
Camera wielding roadie could have been a bit more aware (but let’s face it, there are dousens of riders on that stretch of road at that time) but he had no responsibility to move out to make room for a dumb undertake even if he had seen it (how hard is it to not undertake when there is an obstruction and you won’t clear the other ride before you reach it. Basic road craft, don’t ride yourself into trouble) and the kick was completely unjustifiable no matter what the circumstances.
Since no-one was badly hurt though I can’t see the MET giving a toss (unfortunately).
If i’d been the roadie, i
If i’d been the roadie, i might not even have seen the BMX attempting to undertake – I’d have been looking over my right shoulder to move out round the bus.
The camera lens sees all, and often in wide angle, too. The poor roadie probably just missed that this BMX idiot was attempting a stupid undertake.
Oh – and the kick to the front wheel? Looks like attempted murder to me.
PJ McNally wrote:Oh – and the
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Oh, you’re serious….
AyBee wrote:PJ McNally
It sounds like we have a new law of the Internet. The time it takes for any assault to be escalated to someone claiming attempted murder.
bikebot wrote:It sounds like
We need to come up with a name, so its a real thing.
brooksby wrote:bikebot
Well you’re not naming it after me, I don’t want lots of references to attempted murder coming up whenever someone types my name into Google!
Whoever makes the claim most often on this site, name it after them.
bikebot wrote:brooksby
Well you’re not naming it after me, I don’t want lots of references to attempted murder coming up whenever someone types my name into Google!
Whoever makes the claim most often on this site, name it after them.— bikebot
I don’t know about most often, but how about, after this point, the first to claim attempted murder on a news article?
notfastenough wrote:I don’t
***WE HAVE A WINNER KLAXON***
http://road.cc/content/news/133757-road-rage-driver-who-left-cyclist-brain-damaged-found-guilty-jury#comment-298170
Come on down, MK Ultra!
Just as a reminder of how
Just as a reminder of how seriously the Met take such incidents, we had this from the start of the year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKfGIAIeLYY
And for that, he got a letter from roadsafe ~X(
So BMX guy is too close to
So BMX guy is too close to the kerb at the traffic lights at the beginning, and then decides to try and undertake (badly) as everyone moves to overtake the parked coach. Both really his fault.
Yes, camera guy *could* have moved out more and let him continue with his undertake, but why? BMX guy should have read what was happening, slowed and followed him. Not continued. Its as bad as those motorists who join a motoway along a slip road and think that the motorway drivers should be giving way to *them*.
As other posters have said, camera guy would be looking over his right shoulder (for following cars), and looking over the left to make sure some t**t isn’t undertaking probably isn’t the first thing I’d have done in that situation either.
But kicking the wheel, knocking someone off, not a proportionate response in any circumstance, IMO.
CHLAMEDIA !
That should cover
CHLAMEDIA !
That should cover it. Nasty disease that seems to be spreading, especially amongst the younger generation.
Defn: 1. Over dramatise everything that happens in one’s life as if it were a soap opera and then post on social media.
Example. From the drama queen ‘victims’ comments “I went flying over the handlebars and my head almost went under the bus – it was terrifying.” and “It was ridiculous – it’s the most dangerous thing I’ve ever seen on a cyclist’s cam, and unfortunately it happened to me. I could have easily died.”
Defn: 2. ridiculous comments by armchair lawyers on social media.
one word to cover it all.
These ‘helmet-cameras’ appear
These ‘helmet-cameras’ appear to be really dangerous things to ride with. Judging by all the footage that gets posted, everyone who wears them seems to have several near-death experiences on every ride.
Joeinpoole wrote:These
My wife used to ask me about my journey home. She gave up, when all the “interesting” things I could tell her were along the lines of “this driver did this” or “this scary thing nearly happened” or “he was truly a ninja cyclist”.
Unfortunately, I’d guess that 20 minutes of happy cycling with no major incidents just doesn’t make good Youtube bait, so the “normal cycling” bits of any journey gets edited out before uploading. Although some of the busiest helmet-cam-uploaders do seem to be a bit nuts…
Fight fire with fire!
Get
Fight fire with fire!
Get yourself up. Chase him down. Flick him. Give him a close-up of your Speedplay cleats. Then you realise that your head-cam has turned itself off. Turn your head-cam back on. Let him get up. Give him a head start. Chase him down. Flick him. Give him a close-up of your Speedplay cleats. Ask him for his email address so you can send him a copy.
That’s the only way.
Not impressed with any of it.
Not impressed with any of it. The roadie has to have been provocative. I also think that his claims about the buses a little steep too. The buses were virtually stationary, so much for going under the wheels. When watching the events again, watch the rider in front. He follows almost the same line, except when the BMX bike is near, and so it seems he screened the BMXer. I don’t care where he says he is looking, he is just talking baloney.
It doesn’t excuse the BMXer, undertaking is not a cool move and should be avoided at all costs. But kicking the guys wheel is just the biggest dick move.
I hope I don’t meet either of them to be honest, but given that the roadie is out paced by a BMX, twice, I don’t think I will!
Damn, doesn’t have much of a
Damn, doesn’t have much of a ring to it, does it? I was thinking of ‘Airzounds Law’!
I don’t know, it’s got a bit
I don’t know, it’s got a bit of a Judge Dredd vibe to it.
“Ultra-Law…Everything is Attempted Murder”
I quite like it.
Hahaha, yes fair enough.
“You
Hahaha, yes fair enough.
“You gave that cyclists front wheel a dirty look. That is attempted murder. The penalty for attempted murder is a suspended sentence, a slap on the wrist, and… (grave look)… a public lynching on the internet!”
Accused: “Nooooo, not the internet!”
OK so the rider with the
OK so the rider with the camera might not have given the other rider enough space, but this happens all the time to me with car drivers and I just have to be quick on the brakes. Doesn’t justify assaulting another road user though.
The sarcasm about incidents and cameras doesn’t really work in text either. At least I hope it was sarcasm.
I saw someone riding through Central London recently with a track cycle and no brakes. Only a broken or slipped chain away from death (and not necessarily his own either).
Why is a grown man riding a
Why is a grown man riding a BMX?
J90 wrote:Why is a grown man
Lots of grown men ride BMX bikes. You sound a bit like Jeremy Clarkson come to think of it. That’s the sort of thing he’d say about any adult on any kind of bicycle.
I’m 50. I’m getting a FS
I’m 50. I’m getting a FS trail bike. And I’m going to ride it while wearing lycra. I hope Jeremy Clarkson chokes on his own vomit.
If I was the road biker I
If I was the road biker I wouldn’t ride that slow