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All you ever do is moan about it and us yet every day you’re back for more moaning.
Does that make him a re-moaner?
A family member of mine innocently killed a cyclist 25+ years ago who rode recklessly. How do you think their life has gone?Difficult to comment on this without specifics.
All I’m getting at is that poor practice is carried over to whatever vehicle you operate.I’d agree, though there is an additional enforced learning factor that comes into play with cycling. Poor cycling often leads to loss of control and usually pain, whereas poor driving doesn’t tend to affect the driver.
9 times out of 10! How dare you group my non aggressive “pip” in with this cohort.Well, I don’t think of you as an aggressive driver, so apologies for that.
Use of a car horn is problematic as they don’t have much subtlety and they are only supposed to be used to announce “I AM HERE”. It’s annoying to get beeped at on a bike when the vehicle is behind you as there’s little you can do. If there’s not enough room for a safe overtake, then how is the cyclist supposed to act?
I’ve occasionally had a driver beep at me on the road and my initial adrenaline powered reaction is to start getting annoyed and then have spotted that the driver is someone I know who’s just trying to communicate a friendly “hi there”.
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I don’t need to mythbust my perception of horns, I know what it is like to be on the receiving end on a regular basis and I don’t like it, I never find it helpful, and 95% of horn soundings that I receive are clearly not intended to be helpful. It is often unsettling because the majority of horn soundings are also accompanied by aggressive driving.Agreed – I get a sudden rush of adrenaline if I’m cycling and hear a car horn as 9 times out of 10 there’s an aggressive driver behind it, usually shouting obscenities about some made up rule of the road that they believe.
I’d expect most experienced cyclists get some kind of post-traumatic reaction to car horns.
Looking forward to my turn being executive officer for the week, though of course my decisions will have to be ratified by the bi-weekly meetings, by a simple majority in the case of purely internal decisions but by a two-thirds majority in the case of external matters.Bloody peasant!
Just because you cycle 5000 miles a year doesn’t mean you are good at it, think of motorists who do similar. They think they are good also.There’s a qualitative difference between driving 5000 miles a year and cycling the same distance. Whilst driving, you would have to be actively seeking to improve your observation and traffic prediction skills (which the best drivers will be doing) but on a bike you are pretty much forced to deal with sub-standard driving on most journeys.
Some people don’t act in a way that does the cycling community any favours, they create division instead. Road.cc is usually one of the prime examples.The biggest problem in the “cycling community” (more of an anarcho-syndicalist commune really) is the sheer amount of tripe that gets published in certain mainstream media outlets. Murdoch-owned papers are particularly bad in continually pushing an anti-cyclist agenda and even so-called impartial sources like the BBC are pursuing an agenda of barely mentioning the advantages of active travel and instead pushing electric cars instead. Notably, e-scooters are treated in a similar fashion to bikes with the media attention being mainly negative whilst ignoring the huge problems that come with personal cars.
To be honest, most of the time people bang on about “creating division”, they’re merely getting agitated about the out-group (cyclists) not quite towing the party line. Certainly, comparing the KSIs caused by motorists on a daily basis with the posts of a few people on Road.cc would suggest to me that people are focussing on the wrong issue by invoking “division”. It’s similar to the mantra of “share the road” which only seems to be used to ignore the valid complaints of cyclists.
Ultimately, we want drivers to stop killing people.
Treat yourself to a new (or
Treat yourself to a new (or new to you) bike.
Personally, I’d think that a 90s road bike is a bit too old in terms of technology as it’ll be older than your current one. A second-hand MTB is worth considering as well – slap some slick tyres on it and it’ll be great for commuting and possibly cheaper to maintain than a road bike.
So I ask, is there any way thar “we” as a human family can accommodate walkers and cyclists respectfully, to the benefit of both.The ultimate answer is decent segregated infrastructure in busy areas. There’s plenty of examples in European countries where they realised the problems with designing purely for motorised vehicles and started to build segregated lanes with great success.
Some of the problems we have in this country are due to our almost non-existent cycle infrastructure and forcing cyclists and pedestrians together on the same narrow strips – this inevitably creates problems and the car lobby can smirk as the problems are often blamed on cyclists instead of people looking at the wider picture. I’m not saying that individual cyclists aren’t to blame for their own behaviour, but there’s a disturbing anti-cyclist theme going throughout the mainstream media which of course is hugely funded via car advertising.
So, we need to take space away from motorists and properly design separate places for pedestrians and cyclists. It’s what works elsewhere.
Cyclists aren’t a collective, so there’s very little “we” can do to get along as there is no “we”. It’s similar to asking what you can do to stop other motorists from speeding/using phones etc.We are all individuals!
I’m not!
It’s a dilemma whether to intervene sooner to save one set of risks or later while the other is de-risked.With those dilemmas, you just have to go with the best odds unless there’s some simple way to evaluate the injury, but you wouldn’t want to be getting the patient to wiggle their toes whilst they may be bleeding out.
I think I was hoping that using g this website, with its ” near pass of thd day” video would meet with a response showing concern and a ” what can we do to get along together” attitude. I don’t want cyclists to be castigated, but pedestrians have rights too. Why can’t that be respected. Now I drive to a different location ,walking around d a beautiful lake,where cyclists are not allowed!!Cyclists aren’t a collective, so there’s very little “we” can do to get along as there is no “we”. It’s similar to asking what you can do to stop other motorists from speeding/using phones etc.
It’s a shame that you need to drive to get your exercise now.
It’s a general problem with
It’s a general problem with shared infrastructure. You get pedestrians that don’t realise that they may be on the bike side or even walk two/three across and block both sides. You also get cyclists that think that they should be able to go full speed as it’s “cycle” infrastructure and maybe even “buzz” pedestrians that are on the “bike” side. I don’t think that a painted line will do much to help anyone.
The law is very much on the side of pedestrians (no matter which side of the path that they’re on) and as cyclists are the ones with the greater speed and/or mass, they should be mindful of the increased danger that they pose. However, at least 5% of people are inconsiderate assholes and it sounds like you encountered one of them – I’m thankful that they were just on a bike and not using something faster and heavier.
Usually, cyclists are more than capable of slipping past obstacles with much less than 1.50m room and as cyclists have skin-in-the-game, they’re typically much more careful than motorists (or at least they tend to be more careful after misjudging distances). Also, if an asshole cyclist is going to close-pass people, then they’re likely to ignore any minimum distance laws, so I don’t think legislation is going to make any difference at all.
Anyhow, I hope you get over your fear of close-passes (they can certainly be very scary for cyclists) and continue with your exercise. Don’t let one incident bully you from getting a few walks in.
Most other jobs would invoke
Most other jobs would invoke ‘gross negligence’ and sack them and that would be after only one or transgressions.
Then again, the MET police have shown how politicised the police can become and end up acting as Downing Street’s personal army. Or was that just Thatcher?
Shortly before 3pm yesterday
Shortly before 3pm yesterday a car turned onto its side after colliding with two parked vehicles on Dovercourt Road. Emergency services attended and the driver of the vehicle, a man, was taken to hospital with an injury to his arm
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/crash-outside-lockleaze-houses-leaves-7345699
