[NOtotheEU]

The first bicycle video from the driving instructor I really rate but most of you love to hate! He gets left hooked (but not hit) by a German SUV, who’d have guessed?

To be fair I can see why most people on here don’t think much of him as in another recent video video he says

“You have to look after cyclists because they don’t really read the traffic and read the roads as well as they could do” which is an odd take given that 99% of his ‘driving fails’ are drivers.

On the plus side he then goes on a rant about how mobile use while driving is getting to “ridiculous levels” and “I think it’s about time we had some harsher penelties . . . . as 6 points & £200 doesn’t seem to be working” so I’m sure he’s now going to support Cycling Mikey. OK, I won’t hold my breath.

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[brooksby]

OldRidgeback wrote:

Yes indeed, I’m aware of this. I remember when I first got my car licence and being pressed by my friends to overtake more.

I’ve been driving for nearly eighteen years, and I can count on one hand the number of times i have overtaken another car while driving a car on anything other than a motorway…

[Jenova20]

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Where did you go to if you don’t mind me asking? Less hilly place then the Black Country?

 

Arnold, Nottingham.

No cycling infrastructure at all, and many of the roads look like the surface of the moon. So far reported one dangerous driver, and the police actually responded and said it was bad enough to take action…That’s never happened with any of the 150+ police reports i made to WMP.

[OldRidgeback]

Yes indeed, I’m aware of this

Yes indeed, I’m aware of this. I remember when I first got my car licence and being pressed by my friends to overtake more.

[AlsoSomniloquism]

They will also need to avoid

They will also need to avoid peer pressure. The mates they will be giving lifts to will be pressing them to go faster etc. In that instance, just remind them that the driver is the one who gets done, not the passengers. 

[anagallis_arvensis]

@AshleyNeale…..still
@AshleyNeale…..still waiting for my free driver assessment, fair do’s I’ll take you for a cycle after.

[Steve K]

chrisonatrike wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

If you don’t support change then you effectively support the status quo. If either of the two biggest parties had supported AV we’d likely have it now and we’d have a far healthier democracy as a result. Unfortunately they both decided that wasn’t something they wanted.

Indeed – the only reason it even came to pass was horse-trading around the Lib / Con coalition and the Lib Dems later felt they were sold a pup.  As for “we’d likely have it now” – not certain about that.  All regions in the UK voted against the AV.  Compare the Brexit vote.  All the parties officially opposed Brexit – except the Conservatives (officially neutral – the PM was not in favour) and UKIP.  Yet the vote was still for that.

AV isn’t that good a system, and it’s certainly not proper proportional representation.  All it really means is that you don’t have to consider voting tactically – you can vote for your actual favourite candidate without risking letter your least favourite candidate win.  

Having said that, it’s interesting that the MP stage of the Tory leadership campaign is a drawn out version of AV.

[chrisonabike]

Rich_cb wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

If you don’t support change then you effectively support the status quo. If either of the two biggest parties had supported AV we’d likely have it now and we’d have a far healthier democracy as a result. Unfortunately they both decided that wasn’t something they wanted.

Indeed – the only reason it even came to pass was horse-trading around the Lib / Con coalition and the Lib Dems later felt they were sold a pup.  As for “we’d likely have it now” – not certain about that.  All regions in the UK voted against the AV.  Compare the Brexit vote.  All the parties officially opposed Brexit – except the Conservatives (officially neutral – the PM was not in favour) and UKIP.  Yet the vote was still for that.

[OldRidgeback]

Yes, yes, yes and yes

Yes, yes, yes and yes basically. My kids are both very keen cyclists and I’d like to think their hazard perception is good too. My younger one is getting driving lessons and has a test booked for October. I’d like to think he’ll be a safe driver. I’ve drilled into both my kids the need for safe road use and that if they want to drive flat out, track days are not too expensive. My eldest is taking his first driving lesson this week. 

[NOtotheEU]

Rich_cb wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

If you don’t support change then you effectively support the status quo. If either of the two biggest parties had supported AV we’d likely have it now and we’d have a far healthier democracy as a result. Unfortunately they both decided that wasn’t something they wanted.

Understandable really as they both know the’ll be back in charge in a few years whatever happens at each election, as long as they remember to pretend to be different enough.

As a teenager I was wondering who I would vote for when I was old enough and started to pay a lot of attention to politics. I thought Thatcher and Kinnock must hate each other being so ideologically different (based on what they said about each other). Then I watched them at the opening of Parliment walking arm in arm sharing a joke and realised it is all a show.

[Rich_cb]

If you don’t support change
If you don’t support change then you effectively support the status quo.

If either of the two biggest parties had supported AV we’d likely have it now and we’d have a far healthier democracy as a result.

Unfortunately they both decided that wasn’t something they wanted.

[NOtotheEU]

Interesting article, thank

Interesting article, thank you.

[brooksby]

Apparently Labour had no

Apparently Labour had no official position.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_United_Kingdom_Alternative_Vote_referendum#Political_parties

[Rich_cb]

Did Labour support AV when we
Did Labour support AV when we had a referendum on it?

[Hirsute]

Previously Banned User

Previously Banned User

Great Eastern is the PBU nigel garage

Permanently Banned User

Great Eastern is permanently banned (we hope it’s a perma)

 

[chrisonabike]

It can work the other way. 

It can work the other way.  As we’re about to see again a rather small group of the electorate has historically had a disproportionate influence.  As the following article points out that’s not a “given”.  The core of parties has expanded in the past which can change the direction of the party (Corbyn would be an example):

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-truth-about-david-cameron-and-the-mad-swivel-eyed-loons-

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