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. I’ve read that carbon can absorb some greases etc and swell the fibres,
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the substance would need to get through the resin first before it had contact with the carbon….or is that what your meaning ? Never heard of that issue….am curious ! Degreaser and other detergents seem fine on carbon components and they’re more corrosive
From http://forums.roadbikereview.com/components-wrenching/fyi-grease-carbon-seat-posts-40455.html
No grease on carbon posts. Grease contains certain minerals that can attack clear coats, can penetrate the resin matrix and could cause swelling of the composite laminate. Can you say “stuck seat post?” Don’t use grease.
John G. Harrington
Vice president, bicycle products
Easton Sports, Inc.It’s difficult to say which greases may or may not cause a problem without trying it out and then discovering the issue a year or so later, so I’m firmly in the clean it and use carbon assembly paste camp. Degreasers and detergents probably don’t stay in contact with the carbon long enough to cause any issues.
When a job’s worth doing well
When a job’s worth doing well, follow Sheldon Brown’s advice: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/chainclean.html
Yep – I reckon you’ve got a
Yep – I reckon you’ve got a strong position there. Print that out, highlight the relevant sections and wave it under an Evans’ manager’s nose and hopefully they’ll recompense you straight away. Otherwise it’s lawyering time.
It’s a tricky one.If it’s a safety issue then you could try to sue either/both of the retailer (Evans) and the producer (Pinnacle). Also, you would expect that your service would cover safety issues.
If it’s not a safety issue, then you could try pursuing the retailer for the bike not being fit for purpose. I don’t know whether the time taken for it to fail would be significant or not (personally, I’d expect a hanger to not break unless hit by something).
I’d probably argue that it is a safety issue as a sudden breaking of the hanger could easily cause you to lose control.
I don’t know if this link will help at all: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/product-liability-and-safety-law
Thanks for the link, I’ll have a look now.
It is definitely a safety issue as the recall notice headline is “Pinnacle and Hoy Hanger Safety Recall impacting 2015/16 Disc Brake models of: Arkose, Pyrolite, Dolomite and Shizuoka“
That looks promising. Evans should definitely have picked that up during the service.
It’s a tricky one.
It’s a tricky one.
If it’s a safety issue then you could try to sue either/both of the retailer (Evans) and the producer (Pinnacle). Also, you would expect that your service would cover safety issues.
If it’s not a safety issue, then you could try pursuing the retailer for the bike not being fit for purpose. I don’t know whether the time taken for it to fail would be significant or not (personally, I’d expect a hanger to not break unless hit by something).
I’d probably argue that it is a safety issue as a sudden breaking of the hanger could easily cause you to lose control.
I don’t know if this link will help at all: https://www.gov.uk/guidance/product-liability-and-safety-law
The ultimate goal is to have as many people travelling swiftly and safely to where they want to go and I think that getting as many people onto bikes as possible is part of the solution. Remember, every idiot on a bike is an idiot not in a car.More people on bikes is great goal to aim for. The thing that is stopping most from getting on a bike is concerns over safety. It is possible that people on bicycles not following the rules are a part of what is causing this sense of cycling not being safe.
It is possible that for every 1 non rule following cyclist out there, more are put off from picking up a bike for safety fears.
It is also possible that this is not the case, but I believe that belief that any cyclist on the road is heading in the right direction is not necessarily the right one.
If, however, you are suggesting that an idiot on a bike is preferable to that same idiot in a car so it is forgivable I would dissagree. If rule breaking on a bicycle is transfered to the car when that person changes mode of transport then the issue definately needs to be addressed whilst they are a cyclist and of little danger than when they are behind the wheel of a death machine.
That seems a bit of a weak argument, though I do get what your trying to get across.
If people are copying me, then they won’t be driving and even if they are driving, there’s scant evidence to suggest that the same behaviour carries across from cycling to driving.
I think it’s more likely that there’s personality types that will break rules on a bike and maybe that same personality type will become dangerous if they drive. My main driving experience has been with versions of Gran Turismo and I have shocked myself with some of the maneouvres that I do (e.g. deliberately crashing into other cars to scrub speed off for the corners). However, in real life, I do try to be considerate of other traffic and I think that I have a very good level of awareness of traffic. (I did get surprised the other day to be overtaken at high speed by a couple on a tandem, but then they were very fast and very silent).
Exactly, but if ” there’s personality types that will break rules on a bike and maybe that same personality type will become dangerous if they drive” then if we ignore that behaviour because it’s on a bicycle we are just allowing it to happen later (and with potentially more devastating ramifications) when the change mode of transport to a car.
To take a spiderman analogy, it’s a bit like Peter Parker letting a burglar get away and as a result his Uncle Ben ends up being killed by the same person.
I’d rather tackle the problem before it grows into the larger issue
Again, this is a somewhat tenuous link with cycling being like a ‘gateway drug’ into becoming a dangerous driver. I just don’t agree that people behave like that and virtually everone modifies their behaviour (sometimes better, sometimes worse) when driving compared to walking/cycling/surfing etc.
However, I am on the ‘guilty’ side of the fence, so we’re unlikely to end up agreeing on this, but I hope to have given some insight into why some cyclists behave like they do.
Bit unfair to say the rider caused the accident when in fact the poor road surface did. His actions afterwards aren’t really defendable though.The poor road surface was a contributing factor, but I’d say that the cyclist did cause the accident and most definitely should have hung around to check that the lady was okay or that other people were attending to her.
The ultimate goal is to have as many people travelling swiftly and safely to where they want to go and I think that getting as many people onto bikes as possible is part of the solution. Remember, every idiot on a bike is an idiot not in a car.More people on bikes is great goal to aim for. The thing that is stopping most from getting on a bike is concerns over safety. It is possible that people on bicycles not following the rules are a part of what is causing this sense of cycling not being safe.
It is possible that for every 1 non rule following cyclist out there, more are put off from picking up a bike for safety fears.
It is also possible that this is not the case, but I believe that belief that any cyclist on the road is heading in the right direction is not necessarily the right one.
If, however, you are suggesting that an idiot on a bike is preferable to that same idiot in a car so it is forgivable I would dissagree. If rule breaking on a bicycle is transfered to the car when that person changes mode of transport then the issue definately needs to be addressed whilst they are a cyclist and of little danger than when they are behind the wheel of a death machine.
That seems a bit of a weak argument, though I do get what your trying to get across.
If people are copying me, then they won’t be driving and even if they are driving, there’s scant evidence to suggest that the same behaviour carries across from cycling to driving.
I think it’s more likely that there’s personality types that will break rules on a bike and maybe that same personality type will become dangerous if they drive. My main driving experience has been with versions of Gran Turismo and I have shocked myself with some of the maneouvres that I do (e.g. deliberately crashing into other cars to scrub speed off for the corners). However, in real life, I do try to be considerate of other traffic and I think that I have a very good level of awareness of traffic. (I did get surprised the other day to be overtaken at high speed by a couple on a tandem, but then they were very fast and very silent).
“We but mirror the world. All the tendencies present in the outer world are to be found in the world of our body. If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. This is the divine mystery supreme. A wonderful thing it is and the source of our happiness. We need not wait to see what others do.” – Mahatma Gandhi
Or as it is commonly misrepresented “be the change you want to see in the world”
I believe in this, so because I want to be respected on the road I give others respect. I want other road users to follow the rules, so I follow the rules.
If you are not part of the solution then you are probably part of the problem
I also think that as over 80% of cyclists are said to also be car drivers and it is not hard to believe that any breaking of highway laws on the bicycle are carried into the car by those same people.I do appreciate your view on that regarding following the rules.
Personally, I’d be more than happy to see hoards of unruly cyclists travelling safely yet not always obeying the laws. I think the problem is that the traffic laws could do with some improvement – simple things like allowing bikes to go the opposite way up one-way streets or turning left on red lights, but with the proviso of giving way to any other traffic. I’d also go for allowing unpowered cycles through red lights when safe to do so as that can alleviate traffic congestion and can be safer for the cyclists in some conditions.
The ultimate goal is to have as many people travelling swiftly and safely to where they want to go and I think that getting as many people onto bikes as possible is part of the solution. Remember, every idiot on a bike is an idiot not in a car.
Falling off also needs to be practised so you can do that it in a ‘nah, I’m alright, not bothered at all, mate’ fashion. Get back on, don’t look at your bike because you’re not really bothered, ride off trying to look casual and then once all witnesses are out of sight, have a good cry about your bent derailleur, now scruffy looking pedals and jacket you just put a hole in.Luckily, I’ve never fallen over due to not un-clipping. However, I have had years of practise of falling off of unicycles (don’t use toe-clips) in a suitable manner – the trick is to neatly step off and catch it behind you as if it was planned.
I was surprised at the list,
I was surprised at the list, I thought London would be way at the top, but Port Talbot takes that dubious honour. Never been to Port Talbot, but a day in London is enough to turn your snot black.
Perpetual motion cyclist is also another problem in cities. No red lights can stop them, there is no bus or lorry than cannot be squeezed past. Can’t stop, won’t stop.It saves having to unclip as some of us can’t track-stand for more than a minute.
Trackstand, red light creepers are funny to watch. They approach the light, slowing, slowing, hoping for the change that never comes, the trackstand starts, the balance wanes, a small forward move…the balance wanes…again, a movement, again the balance fails, desperation is setting in as they move past the junction, do they unclip and admit defeat or risk the junction of doom, knowing an collision will clearly be their fault….
And then luckily the lights change.
Have you been following me?
(I usually unclip when I start to lose balance but it has to be done in a nonchalant fashion)
Perpetual motion cyclist is also another problem in cities. No red lights can stop them, there is no bus or lorry than cannot be squeezed past. Can’t stop, won’t stop.It saves having to unclip as some of us can’t track-stand for more than a minute.
I’ve been cycling all through
I’ve been cycling all through the winter and I’m guilty of weaving through slow moving traffic and being quick off the mark through red lights.
Maybe we should welcome and celebrate all the cyclists – it’s much better that us idiots are on bikes than in cars.
@Snigger – thanks. I didn’t
Sniffer – thanks. I didn’t realise he was one of ‘those’ politicians – I’d expect better from his scientific background, but then Tory and Labour seem to have anti-cycling as an agenda.