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Should we be able to break road laws, or is this a bit irresponsible?

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  • April 30, 2018 at 2:32 pm #918279
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    guinom8
    hawkinspeter wrote:
    First point – cyclists don’t form a cohesive group, so other cyclists are not responsible for my behaviour and I am not responsible for other cyclists’ behaviour either.

    Agreed you are not responsible for other cyclists’ behaviour and vice-versa, altough other cyclists’ behaviour or your behaviour may influence what other people think of cyclists in general and that can go back straight back to you, unfortunately.

    The problem I find is: Drivers think cyclists have no right to be on the road, and cyclists think they have more right than drivers. None is willing to give, therefore they take more than they should.

    “The rope will always break where the strands are thinnest” the cyclist in this case.

     

     

    April 30, 2018 at 2:27 pm #918277
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    hawkinspeter
    Yorkshire wallet wrote:
    Most pedestrians don’t seem to give two hoots about any sort of crossing etiquette anyway looking at this. Nearly all those people wouldn’t have done the same with a car approaching.

    I personally like to cut a lot of slack for pedestrians crossing the road, but the one thing that does wind me up is pedestrians not looking before crossing. Usually shouting “Oi” at them gets a suitable reaction, but by then you’ve had to slow/change road position.

    April 30, 2018 at 1:45 pm #918275
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    Most pedestrians don’t seem

    Most pedestrians don’t seem to give two hoots about any sort of crossing etiquette anyway looking at this. Nearly all those people wouldn’t have done the same with a car approaching.

     

    April 30, 2018 at 1:44 pm #918273
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    hawkinspeter

    First point – cyclists don’t

    First point – cyclists don’t form a cohesive group, so other cyclists are not responsible for my behaviour and I am not responsible for other cyclists’ behaviour either.

    Second point – my safety takes precedence over the law. Usually, when I’m choosing to go through a red light, it’s so that I can cross a junction before the motorised vehicles can i.e. I cross as soon as I spot that the cross traffic has stopped.

    Third point – cycling efficiently means keeping your momentum when feasible. This is another reason that I may choose to go through a red light. Usually this is only done when I have a clear view of the traffic (or lack of) and can see that it is safe to do so.

    Fourth point – with the sheer number of traffic laws not being followed by 95% of motorised traffic (e.g. speed limits; not overtaking at pinch points; lack of indication; crossing double solid white lines etc), it just seems ridiculous to be waiting at an empty crossing on the very slim chance that there’s a policeman anywhere at all.

    April 30, 2018 at 12:57 pm #918271
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    guinom8

    That is a mine fied!

    That is a mine fied!

    Drivers who don’t cycle or don’t have a beloved one who cycles on a daily basis are proned not to like cyclist because people like the ones in the article.

    Drivers generally don’t like cyclists, but when they see “supposed cyclists” (what I consider they are not) breaking in the lights or breaking in the traffic rules they start to hate them with reason. Then drivers don’t respect cyclist, hence the amount of accidents involving cyclist in the road.. 

    Bad temper fueled with “supposed cyclists” breaking in the rules.

    City cyclists getway with the above, however the proper cyclists/triathletes that spend a considerable amount of time in the road that pay the price. They are the one that suffer the abuse of highly temper drivers fueled by city cyclists. (Of course, this is a generalisation. There are exceptions. I’m not saying all city cyclists don’t obbey traffic rules, neither all road cyclists/triathletes obbey the rules. However, you see more often city cyclists breaking the traffic rules than road cyclits/triathletes.

    I have been out in the road over 13 years, and I have suffered numerous abuse from drivers for absolutely no reason (ie, for not getting out of their way).

    You don’t obbey the rules, they don’t respect you. Simple as that. And remember: Cyclists (does’t matter what type of cyclists) are ALWAYS the most VULNERABLE out there.

    I must estate that in the article doesn’t estate any example of breaking in the lights or traffic rules in order to save one’s life. Anyone would break the rules to save his/her life.

    My humble opnion, respect the the traffic rules. If anything goes wrong, you are in the right.

    My life is way too precious to risk it in order to save 30seconds breaking in a red light.

    Safe cycle!

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