[David9694]

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don’t quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

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[SaveTheWail]

‘Next they’ll be having to

‘Next they’ll be having to put groins [sic] in…’

https://www.dailypost.co.uk/whats-on/trips-breaks/car-left-stranded-giant-sand-30983949#amp-readmore-target

[Jogle]

stonojnr wrote:

[quote=stonojnr]Feels like theres some missing info with this story, but driver jailed for more than 3 years for driving whilst disqualified. https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/24933219.thomas-gillingham-jailed-driving-offences-ipswich/%5B/quote%5D

He was given a 22 week suspended sentence in November 2024 for driving while disqualified, having been disqualified in April 2024.

https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/24731387.ipswich-man-sentenced-driving-whilst-disqualified/

 

[stonojnr]

Feels like theres some
Feels like theres some missing info with this story, but driver jailed for more than 3 years for driving whilst disqualified.
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/24933219.thomas-gillingham-jailed-driving-offences-ipswich/

[David9694]

chrisonabike wrote:

Hirsute wrote:

Honest, hard working motorists https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpkgly9qzo The largest difference between the speed recorded and the speed limit was 161mph on a 50mph in Somerset.

Other quibbles:

 – Why are we even penalising / criminalising people who aren’t real criminals?

 – Policing speed limits is a waste of limited police resources which they should be spending chasing real criminals / crime with serious consequences. Especially because everyone speeds sometimes.  Same with automated speed cameras – like the police we don’t have resources to put them everywhere – so why not nowhere?

Meanwhile:

BBC wrote:

Speed is the biggest factor reported in fatal road collisions, according to government data. In 2023 speed contributed to 888 fatalities, and more than 39,000 collisions of all severities.

‘suppose a not making cars this fast is out of the question?

[wtjs]

Those who are parking

Those who are parking inconsiderately in Redhouse should be aware that it is an offence to obstruct a junction or park dangerously and this can be enforced by the police

But it won’t be

[Jogle]

Bus stuck for hours amid

[b]Bus stuck for hours amid illegal roundabout parking[/b]

If buses are too big to go around a roundabout and get stuck so easily, they should be banned! I have to use my car because buses are so unreliable.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpkzqz45go

 

[David9694]

ktache wrote:

Otherwise law abiding…

sounds like Cleveland need to raise their game or face relegation to the Vauxhall Conference. 

[ktache]

Otherwise law abiding…

Otherwise law abiding…

[wtjs]

Deputy District Judge Peter

Deputy District Judge Peter Donnison said: “This was an unusual and unfortunate incident.” He said Tulloch was remorseful and the offences out of character

Haven’t we seen Judge Donnison before, accepting remorse with alacrity in the case of epileptic driver crash?

[brooksby]

I read this article – https:/

I read this article – https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/12/fremont-california-unhoused-law – this morning.  There’s a quote in it

Grauniad Hte wrote:

In December, the council began considering the proposal to ban camping on public property and make “aiding and abetting” a misdemeanor with a penalty of up to six months in jail and a $1,000 fine. The ordinance also makes it illegal to store personal property in public areas.

My emphasis.  I wonder whether they’ve considered the impact this might have on people parking their cars in the city…? 

[chrisonabike]

Hirsute wrote:

Hirsute wrote:

Honest, hard working motorists https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpkgly9qzo The largest difference between the speed recorded and the speed limit was 161mph on a 50mph in Somerset.

Other quibbles:

 – Why are we even penalising / criminalising people who aren’t real criminals?

 – Policing speed limits is a waste of limited police resources which they should be spending chasing real criminals / crime with serious consequences. Especially because everyone speeds sometimes.  Same with automated speed cameras – like the police we don’t have resources to put them everywhere – so why not nowhere?

Meanwhile:

BBC wrote:

Speed is the biggest factor reported in fatal road collisions, according to government data. In 2023 speed contributed to 888 fatalities, and more than 39,000 collisions of all severities.

[chrisonabike]

Hirsute wrote:

Hirsute wrote:

Honest, hard working motorists https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpkgly9qzo The largest difference between the speed recorded and the speed limit was 161mph on a 50mph in Somerset.

I think I know how the logic works now, so watch out for something like:

“It’s clear we need to raise the speed limit.  The posted limit is wrong for the design / natural speed of the road and this is obviously creating contempt for the law.

“People doing 90mph in 30mph zones (as in BBC article) – that demonstrates those should be raised to e.g. 60mph for safety reasons.  If people can drive there at 90mph then 30mph is too slow.  It’s obviously inappropriate in those locations to force people to keep to an arbitrary blanket limit like 30mph.

“In fact the whole idea of ‘dangerous speed’ is nonsense.  Speed is not dangerous: it would actually be safer if drivers weren’t distracted by also trying to comply with speed restrictions.  Left to themselves people will naturally drive at a suitable speed.

“I’ve been on several advanced driving courses and have never had an accident…

[Bungle_52]

More details here :

More details here :

https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/news/regional-news/police-catch-drivers-going-up-9941038

I think a reasonable interpretation of the following league table would be the higher up you are the less effective at dealing with speeding. Where does your force fit in.

Gloucestershire have done remarkably well.

Here is a breakdown of the highest speeds on 30mph roads:

1. South Yorkshire Police: 122mph
2. Sussex Police: 113mph
3=. Greater Manchester Police: 112mph
3=. West Yorkshire Police: 112mph
5. West Mercia Police: 106mph
6. Lancashire Constabulary: 104mph
7=. Nottinghamshire Police: 103mph
7=. Bedfordshire Police: 103mph
9=. West Midlands Police: 100mph
9=. Police Service of Northern Ireland: 100mph
11. Dorset Police: 97mph
12. Lincolnshire Police: 96mph
13=. Avon and Somerset Police: 93mph
13=. Kent Police: 93mph
13=. Police Scotland: 93mph
16. Leicestershire Police: 92mph
17=. Cambridgeshire Constabulary: 91mph
17=. Durham Constabulary: 91mph
17=. Gwent Police: 91mph
20=. Essex Police: 90mph
20=. Hampshire Constabulary: 90mph
22=. Devon and Cornwall Police: 89mph
22=. Merseyside Police: 89mph
22=. Norfolk Constabulary: 89mph
25. Staffordshire Police: 87mph
26=. Northumbria Police: 85mph
26=. Hertfordshire Constabulary: 85mph
28=. Suffolk Constabulary: 83mph
28=. Warwickshire Police: 83mph
30. Cumbria Police: 78mph
31=. Cheshire Constabulary: 77mph
31=. North Yorkshire Police: 77mph
33. Northamptonshire Police: 76mph
34. Gloucestershire Constabulary: 74mph
35. North Wales Police: 72mph
36. Cleveland Police: 64mph

[Hirsute]

Honest, hard working
Honest, hard working motorists
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gpkgly9qzo
The largest difference between the speed recorded and the speed limit was 161mph on a 50mph in Somerset.

[David9694]

Driver got her own back on

Driver got her own back on bailiffs who clamped car

She was given six penalty points and a reduced fine

Bailiffed for having no insurance, the fairies broke the clamp off, she drove it uninsured  and then…

Deputy District Judge Peter Donnison said: “This was an unusual and unfortunate incident.” He said Tulloch was remorseful and the offences out of character. It wasn’t a deliberate driving without insurance – “rather a lapse in payments because of complicated factors in life,” he added. Tulloch was fine £160 and told to pay costs of £85 and surcharge of £64.

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/driver-back-bailiffs-who-clamped-9937035?int_source=nba

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