[David9694]

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don’t quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

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[ktache]

Who’d have thought driving

Who’d have thought driving down Deep Ford Lane was a great idea when many regions have had double November’s rainfall already.

El Nina year, met office predicting cold snap in November and flooding in February.

[Hirsute]

“The following media includes

“The following media includes potentially sensitive content.”

A picture of the flooded road.

[David9694]

Driver rescued by

Driver rescued by firefighters after car washed downstream

Sat-nav voice: “in 100 meters take the turning on the left, Deep Ford Lane…” 

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/23108469.car-washed-river-trying-cross-ford-rural-dorset/

[chrisonabike]

Yes – if only more people had
Yes – if only more people had cars (or there were more roads into town) that would restore their trade, surely? ?

Never mind, there are still a few people with cargo bikes about to make up for others who are no longer popping in for an entire pig or a side of beef.

Does make me think of how sometimes the time AND place must be right (minds open, basically):

The Demonstration Cycle Route in The Hague

[David9694]

Cop27: Lord Montagu says

Cop27: Lord Montagu says climate change ‘more apparent every year’

so I assume the weekend car meets are off now and the National Motor Museum will change into a sustainability exhibition?

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/23106786.lord-montagu-climate-change-more-apparent-every-year/

[David9694]

This butcher’s shop claims

This butcher’s shop claims that access issues and parking charges are forcing it to move out city centre. Those first 100 years of operation must have been really tough.  

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/23103040.pritchetts-butchers-fish-row-leaving-salisbury-city-centre/

I imagine the reality is that as with so many shops like that they just aren’t taking enough money over the counter and no amount of free parking is going to alter that.  I think that only leaves the M&S food hall and a couple of convenience stores around the fringes selling groceries. 

[David9694]

and we’re back in Clevedon.  

and we’re back in Clevedon.  

So all the local drivers, especially the ones with a faded-out plastic poppy in the grille that stays there all year round are rising up and saying “we will not drive for a couple of hours on a Sunday morning so the remembrance parade we all care so passionately about can go ahead”.  

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/disappointing-red-tape-causes-towns-7770409

[chrisonabike]

Indeed.  Several good

Indeed.  Several good articles knocking around on this one, Carlton Reid said it best IMO: “where cycling and driving are convenient, Brits drive”.  More detail argues that even in Stevenage / Milton Keynes (the most often-cited new towns with cycling provision) things were stacked in favour of the car from the get-go.

In the UK the genie is more than half a century gone from the bottle there is often very substantial resistance to any change.  A lot of people see changes affecting their car travel as an existential threat.  So much so that even making something else available and making driving both more expensive and slightly less convenient won’t cause most people to change.

I do believe lot of people can be persuaded to change – and will find that it didn’t ruin their life in retrospect, rather the opposite.  That’s because it has happened both elsewhere and here.

[David9694]

Doesn’t the Stevenage

Doesn’t the Stevenage experience suggest that if driving is also easy, a lot of people will plump (geddit?) for it? 

[David9694]

I don’t disagree about

I don’t disagree about challenging crap businesses.  

We’d have made a local journalism classic – “85 yo wheelchair user denied adapted funeral car by callous funeral company bosses.  As it was, we hired one of the regular taxi firms and all was well, in fact they were brilliant. 

My sense of the Mcdrive thru story is that that the situation got adversarial when it needn’t have. As is often the case with these stories, the situation and the players seem a bit confused and there are minor inconsistencies that don’t quite add up. 

[JustTryingToGetFromAtoB]

David9694 wrote:

David9694 wrote:

We were very badly let down 5 years ago when it came to activating a funeral plan my parents had taken out.

These days, you’re on you’re own with this stuff  – the old Equal Opportunties Commission seemed to be little more than a vaguely sympathetic a call centre.

The funeral company were evasive when I complained.  I’d have had to have gone to court to get anywhere, the moment had passed and who’s got the time? 

The potential disability discrimination problem here is not the drive thru, but that for whatever reason they didn’t/couldn’t enter the restaurant for service. 

 

I’m really sorry to hear this.
It might not come as much comfort now, but the dire approach of Funeral Plan companies towards consumers means that Funeral Plans have recently been brought under new regulations. Consumers going forward are more likely to be treated better and I’m pretty sure people can go to the ombudsman service now as an alternative to court.. It probably means some Funeral Plan providers will go bust… though to be honest, they probably should. I have some familiarity with the change in rules and what went before… I can only imagine what you went through at a horrible time.

We probably have differing views on this, but I’m firmly in the camp that business showing a poor understanding of protection laws means that their practices are poor for everyone… and it benefits everyone to challenge them.

[David9694]

We were very badly let down 5

We were very badly let down 5 years ago when it came to activating a funeral plan my parents had taken out.

These days, you’re on you’re own with this stuff  – the old Equal Opportunties Commission seemed to be little more than a vaguely sympathetic a call centre.

The funeral company were evasive when I complained.  I’d have had to have gone to court to get anywhere, the moment had passed and who’s got the time? 

The potential disability discrimination problem here is not the drive thru, but that for whatever reason they didn’t/couldn’t enter the restaurant for service. 

 

[JustTryingToGetFromAtoB]

David9694 wrote:

David9694 wrote:

It’s one of those “why can’t scooters use the drive-thru?”, which when there’s a shunt will turn into “why was there a scooter in the drive thru?”

Not sure what liability would fall on the landowner there. 

In my view, because that’s a risk anywhere yet scooters are not banned. However, in this case, a business has chosen to deny a service to someone because if a protected characteristic. Unless they are saying that they are offering a service that is more dangerous than other similar environments which in it self is a concern.

Personally I think it’s a risky position to take under the Equality Act. I might be wrong, but it’s not unreasonable to ask for their consideration under the Equality Act.

[David9694]

It’s one of those “why can’t

It’s one of those “why can’t scooters use the drive-thru?”, which when there’s a shunt will turn into “why was there a scooter in the drive thru?”

Not sure what liability would fall on the landowner there. 

[David9694]

please please please do cars:

please please please do cars: Calverton neighbours ‘fed up’ with dangerous e-scooters as police take action

When asked about her thoughts on e-scooters, retired Dorothy Bollands, 74, of Calverton, said: “I’d rather they use the pavements. I don’t like them on the road as at about quarter past three you can’t move down the road with school traffic, and people just whip through on scooters.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/calverton-neighbours-fed-up-dangerous-7780439

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