[David9694]

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don’t quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

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[mdavidford]

I am admiring the superbly

I am admiring the superbly unnecessary precision of

More than  94.6% of journeys using the Dartford Crossing are paid correctly and on time

though.

[David9694]

Pretty poor attempt at

Pretty poor attempt at “during a funeral” in one of the linked stories. 

[David9694]

Hebden Bridge – 2 

Hebden Bridge – 2 

[David9694]

Hebden Bridge – 1 

Hebden Bridge – 1 

[chrisonabike]

ANPR sometimes gets it wrong,
ANPR sometimes gets it wrong, who knew?

Drivers receive Dart fines despite never using crossing
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6288ey03y1o

Interesting that nobody seems “outraged” – maybe journos tired from Olympics?

[David9694]

Oh no! another invasion,

Oh no! another invasion, quick let me see what Magna Carta says about this. 

https://www.advertiserandtimes.co.uk/news/letter-cyclists-please-break-up-your-large-group-outings-9377947/

(another one I can’t access)

[mdavidford]

Pub bike wrote:

 That is a big political argument for never raising the duty

Not really – it’s an argument for paying care workers properly so that they can afford it.

[Daclu Trelub]

stonojnr wrote:

[quote=stonojnr]3 vehicles collide all by themselves https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24488417.thedwastre-road-thurston-closed-three-vehicle-crash/%5B/quote%5D

Must be all those Teslas roaming around unherded, bound to be the odd collision.

Magnificent hordes, thundering across the plains of the Serengeti, type of thing.

[stonojnr]

tbh I doubt she is really, I

tbh I doubt she is really, I suspect theyre using it abit like the Tories did pre budgets, float an idea in the press, gauge the reaction, likely to be bad, waffle on about the hard choices, such that when the budget actually comes the thing theyre really going to tax then doesnt seem so bad, and youll be left with a well the choice was this or tax fuel more, we’re choosing the best for the hard workers of the country, blah blah blah, etc.

[stonojnr]

the scary thing is not only

the scary thing is not only did the report state it was the second crash the individual had made in as many weeks/months, at no stage does it state and they no longer work in this role because theyre clearly unsafe to drive a vehicle on a busy airfield if they can become inattentive due to their emotional state of mind.

[Pub bike]

hawkinspeter wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

However, I can see an issue with the poorer demographic being penalised for not being able to afford to change to a more efficient vehicle. Maybe have an amount of fuel duty reclaimable for low incomes?

A reclaim procedure would also overburden time poor as well money poor drivers.  It would also require HMRC to hire a load of new people to verify the claims.  Imagine having to send in or scan all the receipts and verify them individually to claim money back, and the opportunities for fraud.  SHould there be a unique code for each transaction verified between the vendor and HMRC that can then be use to validate the claim?  Way too complicated and vulnerable to fraud.  

That is why I suggested the idea of higher fuel duty for higher consumption using a technology solution provided by the vendor that is basically using off-the-shelf components..

Fuel duty on its own is a blunt instrument and just raising it will adversely impact e.g. care workers who have to do home visits and require a car for their job but can’t really afford it.  That is a big political argument for never raising the duty because the duty is too blunt an instrument.  And those wealthy enough to afford electric cars forgo this problem altogether.  If the duty is means tested in some way so that luxury vehicles are targetted then that is a different story.

 

[hawkinspeter]

Pub bike wrote:

Rachel Reeves is mulling unfreezing the fuel duty escalator which could generate £3bn annually.

Here’s an idea:

Charge fuel duty not just on volume of fuel but also based on engine size and/or fuel consumption in order to encourage motorists to buy less powerful and more efficient cars, and generate tax revenue to pay for government services such as child benefit.

To achieve this, at the filling station, ANPR is used for example to capture the registration plate, which is then used to look up the amount of fuel duty payable in a similar way to other road/vehicle pricing schemes such as LTNs, ULEZ and congestion charging.  This technology is becoming ubiquitous.

Filling stations would then make a regular fuel duty return to HMRC.

I doubt this would see an end to 6.3 V8 twin turbo 4×4 supercars being used for the school run and harrassing other road users, but it would help.

That seems over complicated as putting tax on the amount of fuel would automatically provide an incentive to drive less or use more efficient vehicles.

However, I can see an issue with the poorer demographic being penalised for not being able to afford to change to a more efficient vehicle. Maybe have an amount of fuel duty reclaimable for low incomes?

[wtjs]

This is a major test on the

This is a major test on the seriousness of the Labour government with a massive majority: ignore the Tory hyper-junk press pretending to be in favour of ‘The People’ and go ahead with this abolition of the massive subsidy to drivers at the expense of everybody else.

[Pub bike]

Rachel Reeves is mulling

Rachel Reeves is mulling unfreezing the fuel duty escalator which could generate £3bn annually.

Here’s an idea:

Charge fuel duty not just on volume of fuel but also based on engine size and/or fuel consumption in order to encourage motorists to buy less powerful and more efficient cars, and generate tax revenue to pay for government services such as child benefit.

To achieve this, at the filling station, ANPR is used for example to capture the registration plate, which is then used to look up the amount of fuel duty payable in a similar way to other road/vehicle pricing schemes such as LTNs, ULEZ and congestion charging.  This technology is becoming ubiquitous.

Filling stations would then make a regular fuel duty return to HMRC.

I doubt this would see an end to 6.3 V8 twin turbo 4×4 supercars being used for the school run and harrassing other road users, but it would help.

 

[Hirsute]

Driver may have experienced

Driver may have experienced “inattentional blindness”, which is when someone fails to notice an unexpected object in clear sight.

The incident caused damage to the wing of a Ryanair plane

 

No hi-viz so what did the plane expect ?

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