[David9694]

No more lollipop ladies, close paddling pools and turning off streetlights: How budget cutting BCP Council proposes to save millions

This will be coming to your area in one shape or another.  A few items below, with more in the pipeline as they still have a £12m gap. 

No America trade deal. Still, I was reading, a possibility of an India deal next year, which will fix everything. 

Community Safety Accreditation Scheme (Save £270,000) – They aim to remove community safety officers from Poole Town Centre, Christchurch Town Centre and Boscombe.

Monitoring CCTV (Save £49,000) – Reduce live monitoring of the cameras by 15-30 per cent and to seek support from partner agencies to fund the service. This could mean cameras will no longer be watched by staff at off-peak times.
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Switching off street lighting (Save £68,000) – Turn off streetlights after midnight to 6am on quieter residential roads within the Poole area.

School Crossing Patrol (Save £12,000) – Remove school crossing patrols from locations that have existing crossing facilities and remove school crossing patrols from locations that, following a survey, do not meet the threshold for a patrol.

https://www.dorset.live/news/dorset-news/bcp-council-savings-budget-cuts-8924988

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[Rich_cb]

Did I start this forum post?
Did I start this forum post?

Did I drag up a discussion from 4 months ago and lie about it?

From today’s discussion it has become apparent that you’re largely incapable of understanding a basic graph so I can see how the use of such complex devices might irk you somewhat.

[Rendel Harris]

Rich_cb wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

You can’t blame every bad thing in life on Brexit, as I said before it just makes you look unhinged.

Unlike spending years on end coming on to a cycling website to go on and on and on about Brexit and its supposed advantages, leaving what must by now be many thousands of comments and hundreds of thousands of words, not to mention the graphs (never forget the graphs), that is of course not obsessive or unhinged at all.

[Rich_cb]

Inflation is a global issue
Inflation is a global issue and Europe is pretty much the epicentre.

You can’t blame every bad thing in life on Brexit, as I said before it just makes you look unhinged.

7.5 years since the ballot but the rules of article 50 etc. meant that no formal trade negotiations etc could take place until we were actually out. You can’t really condemn the lack of progress made during years when we were prevented from making any.

[Rich_cb]

Which was always to be
Which was always to be expected.

There’s just been an analysis published that shows the UK growing faster than Germany and France over the next 10-15 years and retaining our position as the world’s 6th largest economy.

The same analysis also shows India (eventually) becoming the dominant economic power in the world.

Long term gains are worth short term pains.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uk-economy-will-grow-more-quickly-than-france-in-coming-years-dbr8ltfch

[David9694]

Wow, wouldn’t that be grand,

Wow, wouldn’t that be grand, a politician carried through the streets on the back of a landslide victory for saying:

“look folks for the sake of the future, we all need to cut down on our CO2, so we’re building Green energy railways, cycleways, regulating in environmentally friendly management of rivers and the land, taxing the arse off aviation, SUVs and investing in our infrastructure to mitigate the already baked-in effects of climate change.

 It’s going to be a tough 10 years but it will be worth it in the end.”

I mean wow wouldn’t it be great if the bulk of people thought that way. 

 

[David9694]

Or it’s coming up eight years

Or it’s coming up eight years since the Brexit ballot – and Brexiters have nothing to show for it, having conned people with a few vague promises, but nothing to compensate for the loss of freedom of movement, the transport planning (see Daily Express), scientific collaboration, co-ordination on the migrant small boats crossings, the fact that my weekly supermarket bill now is up from seldom touching £100 to nudging £150. 

[Hirsute]

They are clear examples of
They are clear examples of direct, current damage.
As ever, it’s jam tomorrow (in 10 years ).

[Rich_cb]

Whereas Remainers voted the
Whereas Remainers voted the same way as George Osborne and Tony Blair…

Merely being able to negotiate independent trade deals is enough of a benefit for me. We’ve been out for under 3 years, it’s incredibly early days yet.

[Rich_cb]

Oh Rendel, sometimes you make
Oh Rendel, sometimes you make it so easy.

What does the Y axis label say?

That’s right, it is already adjusted for inflation.

Do you want to try again?

[Rich_cb]

And some areas of the economy
And some areas of the economy were badly damaged by EU membership.

Sugar refiners as an example.

That’s the thing with all trade deals, there will always be winners and losers.

The potential boost to major areas of our economy is, IMO, well worth the disruption to relatively tiny areas like wine and oysters. Much as I suspect most people who favoured the EU felt the harm to sugar refiners was worth it.

[Hirsute]

If you bothered to look at
If you bothered to look at the wine industry, the damage is long term and locked in. The same with parts of the fishing industry – unable to sell oysters to mainland Europe.

[Rendel Harris]

Oh huzzah, a graph! A graph

Oh huzzah, a graph! A graph that shows spending has risen by £40bn in ten years at almost exactly the same rate as inflation. So where is the £18.2BN a year extra we were promised? Here’s a graph for you as you love them so much: cumulative underspend on the NHS since 2010, even including massive emergency injections for Covid, £322BN.

[hawkinspeter]

Rich_cb wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

Imagine voting in an election and choosing the option you thought was best for the long term benefit of the country. Imagine if everybody took that approach. What a crazy world that would be.

Imagine voting in an election and choosing the option that was backed by liars who were just trying to turn a quick buck for them and their mates? Imagine choosing to vote for a poorly defined option which then led to years of squabbling between various hard/soft factions. Imagine the embarrassment of then not being able to state the tangible benefits of the decision and having to deflect discussions of the benefits by kicking it down the road?

[Rich_cb]

Imagine voting in an election
Imagine voting in an election and choosing the option you thought was best for the long term benefit of the country.

Imagine if everybody took that approach.

What a crazy world that would be.

[David9694]

Hey folks Boris here with the

Hey folks Boris here with the simply spiffing message that if we leave the EU now then in 10, 15, or 20 years’ time, there’s as much as a 50/50 chance that something somewhere will be better than before if he stayed in the EU. 

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