[David9694]

No more lollipop ladies, close paddling pools and turning off streetlights: How budget cutting BCP Council proposes to save millions

This will be coming to your area in one shape or another.  A few items below, with more in the pipeline as they still have a £12m gap. 

No America trade deal. Still, I was reading, a possibility of an India deal next year, which will fix everything. 

Community Safety Accreditation Scheme (Save £270,000) – They aim to remove community safety officers from Poole Town Centre, Christchurch Town Centre and Boscombe.

Monitoring CCTV (Save £49,000) – Reduce live monitoring of the cameras by 15-30 per cent and to seek support from partner agencies to fund the service. This could mean cameras will no longer be watched by staff at off-peak times.
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Switching off street lighting (Save £68,000) – Turn off streetlights after midnight to 6am on quieter residential roads within the Poole area.

School Crossing Patrol (Save £12,000) – Remove school crossing patrols from locations that have existing crossing facilities and remove school crossing patrols from locations that, following a survey, do not meet the threshold for a patrol.

https://www.dorset.live/news/dorset-news/bcp-council-savings-budget-cuts-8924988

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[Rich_cb]

Unemployment will rise by 500
Unemployment will rise by 500-800,000.

House prices will fall by 10-18%.

How did those predictions pan out?

How much has NHS funding increased since 2016?

[Rich_cb]

I’m not denying that
I’m not denying that disruption is occurring.

Short term disruption was always going to occur. I believe that the long term benefits will far outweigh these short term disruptions.

Many others believe otherwise but as the disruption is front loaded and the potential benefits long term it’s far too soon to definitively say which side was right.

[Rendel Harris]

Hirsute wrote:

Not as tedious as the current real problems and costs that have occured due to brexit.

Seven-and-a-half years ago: “Brexit will mean an extra £350M a week for the NHS, look it must be true ‘cos it’s written on the side of a bus.”

Today: “Where are the benefits from Brexit we were promised?” “Oh don’t be tedious.”

[Hirsute]

Not as tedious as the current

Not as tedious as the current real problems and costs that have occured due to brexit. Take the wine industry for a start.

Reading your posts it’s a though no downside is currently occurring and to say ‘wait 10 years’ is some vague assertion, unrelated to what is currently happening.

[Rich_cb]

It is but it doesn’t work
It is but it doesn’t work particularly well.

With the right accountant it’s possible to avoid paying any inheritance tax at all, the wealthier you are the less likely you are to pay it. See the Duke of Westminster as a good example.

A reformed council tax would be essentially unavoidable, whoever owned the property would be liable for the tax be they a normal individual or an obscure blind trust registered in a tax haven.

[Rich_cb]

What was the per capita GDP
What was the per capita GDP of Eastern Europe when Poland et al. were admitted to the EU?

Increasing trade with rapidly growing economies benefits all parties involved.

[Rich_cb]

I’ve linked to that previous
I’ve linked to that previous thread below.

In that thread I said that I’d read it was close to sign off and felt sign off was possible in a relatively short period of time but emphasised multiple times that nothing could be taken for granted until the it was over the line. A certain dishonest individual has sought to misrepresent my views but the thread speaks for itself.

I think if/when the India deal gets done it will put a stop to the tedious ‘where are the benefits?’ question as it will be an unambiguous benefit.

I’m in favour of increased skilled immigration but I support the idea of a high salary threshold for skilled immigration visas.

[David9694]

I congratulate you on the

I congratulate you on the shape-shifting and hijacking’s the conversation today and turning it. The “Bigger Picture Manoeuvre”, as I think it’s known.

Yet with all you describe about our changing / ageing population, doesn’t having the most well performing economy that we can have make a great deal of sense as a mitigation?  In what sense does this unfortunate choice of ours do that?

[Eton Rifle]

Rich’s naivety in thinking
Rich’s naivety in thinking that this Indian trade deal will somehow make the Brexit disaster justifiable is ridiculous.

Per capita GDP in India is <$3k pa. Germany's is $53k. Factor in the gross wealth inequalities and the modal figure for India is much less. The simple fact is that the vast majority of Indians haven't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. What are they going to be able to afford to buy from us? The whole thing is just more performative bollocks from a dying government in a feeble attempt to distract from the obvious truth that Brexit has failed. And failed big time.

[David9694]

More unabashed evasion – a

More unabashed evasion – a decade into the future, is it now? 

[David9694]

I was left under the

I was left under the impression from a previous thread I think I may have started that  you thought that India (I) was very close to being done (ii) would sort everything and make Brexit all worthwhile.  I think you’re back-pedalling on that now. 

I don’t associate you with any of this, but am I right in thinking / remembering that this deal would likely entail allowing some immigration from India into the UK?  Given the destructive tailspin the Tories have got themselves into on this it’s hard to imagine how they could frame this to the nutjobs as OK.  “Look, it’s fine, they may have brown skin, but they all speak English”.  Also if you set some stupid income threshold, aren’t you then into “taking all our jobs” territory?

 

[chrisonabike]

Rich_cb wrote:

Rich_cb wrote:

Until we get some redistribution of that generational wealth gap the ability if the country to pay for necessary public services will be sorely diminished.

From your suggestion elsewhere – isn’t an inheritance tax an attempt to address part of that though?

[Rich_cb]

There’s no way what I said
There’s no way what I said about the India FTA could be construed as “confidently assuring”. You know exactly what that phrase means and you know even your original cherry picked screenshots didn’t come close to it. I even said directly in discussion with you that all the coverage was just speculation and made explicitly clear that nothing was guaranteed.

You dishonestly misrepresented what I said when you knew that was misleading. You’re just a liar and you’ve been caught out.

[Rendel Harris]

Nobody lied about you

Nobody lied about you sweetheart, I put screenshots of your posts up for all to see, I didn’t claim you said anything in them that you didn’t say. If you don’t like what you said that’s not my problem.

Again, for fuck’s sake have a drink and some nuts and watch the telly or something. My guests will be here any minute so once again I wish you a merry Christmas and a happy new year and with that I’m out xxx

 

[Rich_cb]

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