Vuelta-chris horner

I see what you mean
I see what you mean daddyELVIS; given the company that he has kept it would take an iron will to not dope. But he seems ambivalent to the issue and follows the familiar not doping = not getting caught ideology.
But the company he has kept must have put him under the spotlight for many years, USADA in particular… better to be born lucky than rich?

Gkam84 wrote:Just been

Gkam84 wrote:

Just been reading this http://journalvelo.com/opinion/chris-horners-power-files-revealed-is-he-or-isnt-he-suspicious/

Seems, no matter what he weights, his power to weight doesn’t go above the suspicious level that everyone seems to spout, but no-one knows where it came from…

close to 6.2 on final climb at over 40 years old!! What could he push out at his peak?? He must have been the worlds best cyclist at one time. Imagine what he could have done the other day if he’d have been doped!

daddyELVIS wrote:SideBurn

daddyELVIS wrote:

SideBurn wrote:

daddyELVIS wrote:

What do his past results prove? That’s like saying Armstrong didn’t dope in 2005 because he’d won the Tour every year since 99.

Horner has publically stated what his stance on doping is – if you pass the test on the day, then you’re clean, no going back. Part of the game is passing the test. He still believes LA should have his 7 Tour wins (BTW, I agree with him on that point).

Source?

Hopefully this link works, took me a while to find this! It’s quite long, but very interesting and informative. The part I was referring to is in the Armstrong section at the end. After reading this, I’m sure you’ll agree Horner is a fully-paid up member of the omerta crewe, as reinforced by JV’s recent twitter comments. Doesn’t proves he’s doping now, or ever has doped, but it gives a good insight into his views:

It’d be easier to count the people who aren’t part of the pro cycling omerta crew.

SideBurn wrote:daddyELVIS

SideBurn wrote:

daddyELVIS wrote:

What do his past results prove? That’s like saying Armstrong didn’t dope in 2005 because he’d won the Tour every year since 99.

Horner has publically stated what his stance on doping is – if you pass the test on the day, then you’re clean, no going back. Part of the game is passing the test. He still believes LA should have his 7 Tour wins (BTW, I agree with him on that point).

Source?

Hopefully this link works, took me a while to find this! It’s quite long, but very interesting and informative. The part I was referring to is in the Armstrong section at the end. After reading this, I’m sure you’ll agree Horner is a fully-paid up member of the omerta crewe, as reinforced by JV’s recent twitter comments. Doesn’t proves he’s doping now, or ever has doped, but it gives a good insight into his views:

I have been trying to back up
I have been trying to back up my re-testing statement above; but can’t.
My thoughts are that the people queuing up to grass themselves up and contribute to the USADA case against LA must have done so with some sort of encouragement ie admit or we will re-test. Chris seems to have been rubbing shoulders with many of the disgraced riders; surely USADA would have spoken to him and given him the same choice? I am speculating.
BUT anyone remember this from the 2010 TdF
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/05/news/lequipe-publishes-list-of-ucis-doping-suspicions-from-2010-tour-de-france_172784
Chris Horner managed to finish 9th and scored -0- on the list = no suspicion at all.. but so did Zabriskie
Cavendish -2-
Wiggins -5-
Lance -4-
Basso -3-
He is either lucky or determined to be clean?
He has had plenty of opportunity to dope and must have raised suspicion? Time will, hopefully, tell.

Gkam84 wrote:tomisitt

Gkam84 wrote:

tomisitt wrote:

Um…I suspect most of us know enough to know that a DS is a Directeur Sportif. AFAIK, Horner isn’t one.

I would have let that comment go, because with 15 posts, I thought you were new to the site, but I see you’ve been around over two years.

So you should know by now, around these parts, DS is a shortened form of Domestique….

Really? Why would anyone abbreviate “domestique” to DS when DS is already an acknowledged abbreviation for Directeur Sportif? Random.

What do his past results
What do his past results prove? That’s like saying Armstrong didn’t dope in 2005 because he’d won the Tour every year since 99.

Horner has publically stated what his stance on doping is – if you pass the test on the day, then you’re clean, no going back. Part of the game is passing the test. He still believes LA should have his 7 Tour wins (BTW, I agree with him on that point).