Suggestions for the 2013 season

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    drheaton

    It’s early, I know, but with the revival of the old suggestion thread it seems people are full of ideas on how they’d like the game to be “improved” next year!

    Obviously, this is all stuff that we’d like to see, wishful thinking really, but road.cc and Dave have always listened to what people think and have implemented good suggestions in the past (regional leagues, premium membership, the removal of the varying player values etc) so if you’ve got an idea post it below. Think of this as the place to make your request/suggestion so that Dave can see it easily. Also, tell everyone what you think works too rather than just complaining!

    Firstly off, I’d like to thank Dave for the game and strides they’ve made over the last few years to improve it into what is an excellent competition. I think that this years game is the best yet, the 4/5 split is a massive improvement over the old 1 GC, 1 AR ,1 KM, 1 PC and 5 DS split and allows for much more interesting team selections, likewise I think the constant rider values is something that should be kept next year as I haven’t missed the old system at all.

    My suggestions? Nothing major…

    1) Remove the 4/5 split altogether – I’d be happy if the current system was kept but would like to see complete flexibility, the limited budgets will restrict players from having a particularly unbalanced team and it will allow for even more creative team selections, especially where there are lots of cheap stars in a race (like this years classics). For example, pretty much all the top Vuelta teams will still have 3 of Contador, Rodriguez, Froome and Valverde so the 150 credit cap will restrict the makeup of the rest of their team. However, I guess the 4/5 split does give structure and makes the game easier to get your head around when starting out (my dad really struggled when he joined for the TdF but the 4/5 split made things easier).

    2) Expand on the premium membership with extra features such as combined purist team on the same account and stuff like that. I will probably pay for premium membership next year but I’d like to see some extra features being included for my money, not just extra races (which have been a bit shambolic this year and are very hard to follow).

    3) Teams of teams – another possible premium feature, 9 players band together into one team of players, their scores are combined in some way (straight sum of scores, average of all 9 or maybe lose the highest and lowest and sum/average what’s left) and they compete against other teams for a prize (Grand tours only maybe?). Should be fun and unpredictable, also, good for getting people to get involved on the forum.

    4) Fantasy jersey competitions – another thing to aim for when playing the grand tours, a selection of jerseys awarded to winners of particular comps:
    – a GC jersey awarded for whoever finishes 1st overall along with the bike, a black jersey possibly something road.cc themed.
    – a points jersey based on sprint stages or combined sprint points, either whichever teams gets the most intermediate sprint and flat finish line points over a race or maybe whoever scores highest just on flat stages, based on intermediate sprints would keep it interesting throughout though as you have to keep up with breaks in the mountains.
    – a mountains jersey like the points but for KoM points/mountain stages

    ideally these would be biased to make it very difficult to win them whilst still playing for overall placing, ie base it heavily on breakaway points (the KoM in particular) so that you need to pick the breaks and possibly suffer in the overall as a result, that’d make it something entirely separate to aim for like the riders aim for the KoM comp sacrificing their overall standings. Moreover, these aren’t big cost prizes and are just for fun/pride.

    5) Reduce the penalty for making additional transfers. I like the fact that there is a penalty but 20 points is very heavy, you basically need to place in the top 4 to overcome that. 10 points might bring in more tactical use of this facility and not be so penal if someone cocks up their team and needs to sort it out.

    That’s mine, just to be going on with. Also, a booby prize for whoever first mentions the ‘reset button’.

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  • #698229
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    Gkam84

    I think someone needs to go
    I think someone needs to go make their own game rather than trying to shape this one….to lets face it….their own ideas, which very few have agreed with :B

    #698227
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    Stumps

    STEVESPRO 79 wrote:From

    STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
    From reading the posts in this topic,my personal conclusion is this…..Some people have really sad lives…
    This is a game that we all enjoy playing,so lets just play it….Its a work in progress game that doesnt have much wrong with it…Some people seem to want to make it easier all the time by changing the number of star riders etc….That will not change anything as the players who do their homework more thoroughly will still be at the top more often than not…Lady luck will always play its part in the game as the riders have to stay upright and have legs on the day…
    Dave and co invented the game,so in my opinion its their right to tweek it how they want…It seems that some people want Dave and co to forget everything else in their working lives and just spend 24/7 on updating and changing the game…Personally I dont think this year has been any better than last year,if Im honest I think technical hitches mid-season have made it much worse…That said I will still be here next season,whatever the changes…After all we all play by the same rules,whatever they may be…Just enjoy it people and be thankful that we have it….

    Hear hear =D> =D>

    I said this not long ago “if it aint broke dont try and fix it”.

    #698225
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    STEVESPRO 79

    From reading the posts in
    From reading the posts in this topic,my personal conclusion is this…..Some people have really sad lives…
    This is a game that we all enjoy playing,so lets just play it….Its a work in progress game that doesnt have much wrong with it…Some people seem to want to make it easier all the time by changing the number of star riders etc….That will not change anything as the players who do their homework more thoroughly will still be at the top more often than not…Lady luck will always play its part in the game as the riders have to stay upright and have legs on the day…
    Dave and co invented the game,so in my opinion its their right to tweek it how they want…It seems that some people want Dave and co to forget everything else in their working lives and just spend 24/7 on updating and changing the game…Personally I dont think this year has been any better than last year,if Im honest I think technical hitches mid-season have made it much worse…That said I will still be here next season,whatever the changes…After all we all play by the same rules,whatever they may be…Just enjoy it people and be thankful that we have it….

    #698223
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    dave atkinson

    enrique wrote:Dave, I love

    enrique wrote:
    Dave, I love riders that can be gotten for less than 3 points, just so you can have some flexibility to stack your team a little, and so we don’t have people resorting to picking riders at 2.3, 2.4 or 2.5 points that aren’t riding, and are grayed out… How about giving us a few of these in each race? Surely there’ll be no-name domestiques we can afford to do this with… Huh? :)

    not sure i understand. the point of the 3 credit minimum is that there’ll be no point picking greyed-out riders as there won’t be any cheaper riders not participating. it could easily be 2.5, or 2, or whatever

    #698221
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    enrique

    Dave Atkinson wrote:…

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    … here’s how it’ll basically work:

    1) there’s a maximum rider value of 40 and a minimum rider value of 3…

    Dave, I love riders that can be gotten for less than 3 points, just so you can have some flexibility to stack your team a little, and so we don’t have people resorting to picking riders at 2.3, 2.4 or 2.5 points that aren’t riding, and are grayed out… How about giving us a few of these in each race? Surely there’ll be no-name domestiques we can afford to do this with… Huh? 🙂

    #698219
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    enrique

    enrique wrote:1. How about

    enrique wrote:
    1. How about total banking of any accrued transfers? You can earn them 2 a day but use them – after you have them in your account – any day you want to until the end of the compeititon?…

    Dave, what are your thoughts on transfers and the penalty fees?…

    #698217
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    dave atkinson

    the races won’t be open one
    the races won’t be open one at a time, but they will have a defined opening date, probably a few weeks from the start of the race. at the point they open we’ll just have the full roster of every participating team in the start list, then it’ll get narrowed down as the start nears.

    kaiser wrote:
    My only suggestion is a visual one, when races overlap could we see both on the screen at the same time? I think I missed a couple of starts due to forgetting the race had kicked off. Or maybe an improvement in navigation, could the races be on a tabbed header, with live races green or amber if they are about to start?

    yes, we’ll look into that

    #698215
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    Kaiser

    Can I start of by saying
    Can I start of by saying thanks to all those that run this, over the years this has increased my enjoyment( and knowledge) of pro cycling no end.

    My only suggestion is a visual one, when races overlap could we see both on the screen at the same time? I think I missed a couple of starts due to forgetting the race had kicked off. Or maybe an improvement in navigation, could the races be on a tabbed header, with live races green or amber if they are about to start?

    I liked the sound of a nominated captain per race or even having to choose a single purist rider for the whole season.

    #698213
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    JAndrewHill

    Ahgood makes sense. I didnt
    Ahgood makes sense. I didnt have all day to read the whole thread…i only managed a weeks worth. 😕

    #698211
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    Gkam84

    I think Dave said above
    I think Dave said above somewhere. The races will only be open one at a time and only a bit before the races, so that startlists and things can be verified, so you don’t have to keep going and changing your team 😉

    #698209
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    JAndrewHill

    How soon before a race can I
    How soon before a race can I pick a rider. Could I pick cav for the tdf whilst the dauphine is on and he is cheap. Or will there be a date when rider values are fixed for the tdf, say a week before it starts and we have a week to pick our squads from scratch???

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    dave atkinson

    yes TER, except currently the
    yes TER, except currently the spring classics are lumped together as a competition so there wouldn’t be a specific value for amstel, rather for the whole comp. but you could expect cav to be dearer for the tour of qatar than for the dauphine, for example

    #698205
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    TERatcliffe26

    Regarding the values, I think
    Regarding the values, I think what Dave is saying regarding the profile of a stage when weighting the values comes more into play for a classic, for example if Cav was riding Amstel then his value would be lower than that of his TDF value, based on the fact it is an uphill finish and thus virtually wont figure in winning, so a value of 40 wouldnt be justified for him in such a race (would you agree cgipryan?). I dont think that is trying to point out the winner but merely being reflective of fair values for the race.

    Am I right?

    #698203
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    JAndrewHill

    Can we start the 2013 season
    Can we start the 2013 season now??? I am missing it already.

    As long as it doesnt become too easy to pick the top nine riders , and few peopled pick similar squads it will be good.

    I liked the way this season it helped if you picked the random riders who won a stage or broke away and just picking the top six in the gc was not always best.

    #698201
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    dave atkinson

    enrique wrote:
    Dave, what are

    enrique wrote:

    Dave, what are your thoughts on the number of Stars for next year? Are you inclined to keep the 4 Star requirement? Can you drop it down to 3 Star Riders, if they’re going to be required to be filled? …

    i’m inclined to drop the split altogether and let everyone pick who they like. the new rider values system will give a more even spread of values so i think more flexibility in who you pick will be necessary. also looking at upping the riders from a single team from 2 to 3

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