Suggestions for the 2013 season

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    drheaton

    It’s early, I know, but with the revival of the old suggestion thread it seems people are full of ideas on how they’d like the game to be “improved” next year!

    Obviously, this is all stuff that we’d like to see, wishful thinking really, but road.cc and Dave have always listened to what people think and have implemented good suggestions in the past (regional leagues, premium membership, the removal of the varying player values etc) so if you’ve got an idea post it below. Think of this as the place to make your request/suggestion so that Dave can see it easily. Also, tell everyone what you think works too rather than just complaining!

    Firstly off, I’d like to thank Dave for the game and strides they’ve made over the last few years to improve it into what is an excellent competition. I think that this years game is the best yet, the 4/5 split is a massive improvement over the old 1 GC, 1 AR ,1 KM, 1 PC and 5 DS split and allows for much more interesting team selections, likewise I think the constant rider values is something that should be kept next year as I haven’t missed the old system at all.

    My suggestions? Nothing major…

    1) Remove the 4/5 split altogether – I’d be happy if the current system was kept but would like to see complete flexibility, the limited budgets will restrict players from having a particularly unbalanced team and it will allow for even more creative team selections, especially where there are lots of cheap stars in a race (like this years classics). For example, pretty much all the top Vuelta teams will still have 3 of Contador, Rodriguez, Froome and Valverde so the 150 credit cap will restrict the makeup of the rest of their team. However, I guess the 4/5 split does give structure and makes the game easier to get your head around when starting out (my dad really struggled when he joined for the TdF but the 4/5 split made things easier).

    2) Expand on the premium membership with extra features such as combined purist team on the same account and stuff like that. I will probably pay for premium membership next year but I’d like to see some extra features being included for my money, not just extra races (which have been a bit shambolic this year and are very hard to follow).

    3) Teams of teams – another possible premium feature, 9 players band together into one team of players, their scores are combined in some way (straight sum of scores, average of all 9 or maybe lose the highest and lowest and sum/average what’s left) and they compete against other teams for a prize (Grand tours only maybe?). Should be fun and unpredictable, also, good for getting people to get involved on the forum.

    4) Fantasy jersey competitions – another thing to aim for when playing the grand tours, a selection of jerseys awarded to winners of particular comps:
    – a GC jersey awarded for whoever finishes 1st overall along with the bike, a black jersey possibly something road.cc themed.
    – a points jersey based on sprint stages or combined sprint points, either whichever teams gets the most intermediate sprint and flat finish line points over a race or maybe whoever scores highest just on flat stages, based on intermediate sprints would keep it interesting throughout though as you have to keep up with breaks in the mountains.
    – a mountains jersey like the points but for KoM points/mountain stages

    ideally these would be biased to make it very difficult to win them whilst still playing for overall placing, ie base it heavily on breakaway points (the KoM in particular) so that you need to pick the breaks and possibly suffer in the overall as a result, that’d make it something entirely separate to aim for like the riders aim for the KoM comp sacrificing their overall standings. Moreover, these aren’t big cost prizes and are just for fun/pride.

    5) Reduce the penalty for making additional transfers. I like the fact that there is a penalty but 20 points is very heavy, you basically need to place in the top 4 to overcome that. 10 points might bring in more tactical use of this facility and not be so penal if someone cocks up their team and needs to sort it out.

    That’s mine, just to be going on with. Also, a booby prize for whoever first mentions the ‘reset button’.

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  • #698289
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    enrique

    stumps wrote:You REALLY need

    stumps wrote:
    You REALLY need to get out more =))

    I do! Cool icon, by the way… 🙂

    #698287
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    Stumps

    enrique wrote:cgipryan

    enrique wrote:
    cgipryan wrote:
    … he wants to check if we’ll be able to buy Andy Schleck and Hushovd for 3 credits…

    Wow… I hadn’t thought of that, but it does bring up the question of how you handle them, if they have no results for the year, that’s an interesting case…

    I am! very! intrigued by the formula(s)! 😕 Can we see it (them?)? 😉 …. I’m in awe of someone who comes up these things! :D

    You REALLY need to get out more =))

    #698285
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    enrique

    cgipryan wrote:… he wants

    cgipryan wrote:
    … he wants to check if we’ll be able to buy Andy Schleck and Hushovd for 3 credits…

    Wow… I hadn’t thought of that, but it does bring up the question of how you handle them, if they have no results for the year, that’s an interesting case…

    I am! very! intrigued by the formula(s)! 😕 Can we see it (them?)? 😉 …. I’m in awe of someone who comes up these things! 😀

    #698283
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    dave atkinson

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:On a

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    On a different note Dave, when is a race calender likely to be released, on which races will be standard and which will be premium? leading to when will premium membership be due for the first premium race.

    On another note also, has anything happened regarding the possibility of integrating having a standard team and a purist team under the same account, or was that ruled out?

    there’s a lot of i’s to be dotted and t’s to be crossed in terms of calendar and premium 😕

    we’re looking into the standard/purist thing but the main sticking point is not making the game overly complicated for people who just want to play one team. a work in progress.

    #698281
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    TERatcliffe26

    On a different note Dave,
    On a different note Dave, when is a race calender likely to be released, on which races will be standard and which will be premium? leading to when will premium membership be due for the first premium race.

    On another note also, has anything happened regarding the possibility of integrating having a standard team and a purist team under the same account, or was that ruled out?

    #698279
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    dave atkinson

    certainly andy and thor
    certainly andy and thor aren’t going to be super expensive…

    #698277
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    cgipryan

    Enrique wants to turn
    :)) Enrique wants to turn mathematical mastermind on us… I think he wants to check if we’ll be able to buy Andy Schleck and Hushovd for 3 credits at the beginning of next year, based on their inexistent results this year…Oh my, will they be popular come spring time!

    #698275
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    enrique

    Dave Atkinson wrote:…the

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    …the races will open when we know which teams are participating and we have the stage information… we’ll aim to get them open four weeks or so before they start…

    That’s pretty cool, Dave…

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    … the values will be generated automatically based on a year’s worth of historical data.

    That’s pretty cool, too… Dave, so come December, we can take a peek at the rider values for the TDU? Is the formula(s?) you’ll be using for the values something we can take a look at, too?…

    #698273
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    dave atkinson

    STEVESPRO 79 wrote:The

    STEVESPRO 79 wrote:
    The palmares idea would be a great addition….Not sure how much work that it would involve though….

    that’ll be happening for sure

    #698271
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    dave atkinson

    the races will open when we
    the races will open when we know which teams are participating and we have the stage information.

    we’ll aim to get them open four weeks or so before they start. that’ll be with the full roster of participating teams, then we’ll narrow it down. it won’t always be possible to open them that early.

    enrique wrote:
    Out of curiousity, will values be set by a computer? Meaning you’ll have a database of last year’s points and the points a rider gets next year and have a formula set up to spit out a number or will you guys be assigning rider values one by one each month?… Just curious…

    the values will be generated automatically based on a year’s worth of historical data.

    #698269
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    Gkam84

    Yeah thats the race hosts
    Yeah thats the race hosts fault. But most large tours/races in “civilised” countries have them sorted far sooner 😉

    #698267
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    Stumps

    Gkam84 wrote:I’m sure Dave

    Gkam84 wrote:
    I’m sure Dave will clear it up, but they way I read it, we wont see any riders until that race has been opened to the players. So you won’t be able to look at anything or pick a team until the race is opened. Maybe a few days before the race

    Or a few hours if the Tour Of Beijing was anything to go by :O

    Only joking Dave, we know it wasn’t your fault. 😀

    #698265
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    Gkam84

    I’m sure Dave will clear it
    I’m sure Dave will clear it up, but they way I read it, we wont see any riders until that race has been opened to the players. So you won’t be able to look at anything or pick a team until the race is opened. Maybe a few days before the race

    #698263
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    Gkam84

    You know when you quote
    You know when you quote someone, Its just rude to change what they wrote :B

    #698261
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    enrique

    enrique wrote:… We’ll have

    enrique wrote:
    … We’ll have a month… with set values?…

    Dave, what I mean is, hope I read right, that you’re saying you’ll post values – in the Riders section of a competition? or in the Pick Team section of a competition? – about a month out from a race and those values won’t change, right? So even if there are roster changes for a race, once a rider’s value is published for that race, it won’t change, right?

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