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  • August 8, 2019 at 12:30 pm #30001
    MinardiM189

    Just had my first look at the route and details of the race.

    Looks like there is a big change in the points competition this year. Some stage have 5 intermediate sprints, some have only one and a lot of the intermediate sprints are half way up a climb. There is one on the flat 2km from the start of a mountain stage.

    I have no idea how points are going to be awarded, I can’t find a copy of the rules anywhere but it looks like they are trying to create a more competitive competition, which can be won by sprinters, climbers, puncheurs or breakers. Dr Winston should like this.

    Interestingly the most competitive rider is chosen by the public via social media.

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  • August 29, 2019 at 3:33 pm #947981
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Missed the entire thing today due to Ikea shopping…grrrr….

    Sounds like,I missed a,lot…anybody want to give a run down for me please.

    Stage pretty much worked as I thought today…i fancied Herrada to do well in a stage sometime (as above) but then again i’ve felt this race is set up for a series of Herrada’s and plenty of them. On balance I think I would have gone for TDG or Soler if i’d have made any changes….so…pffft….

    It was a big battle to get in the break, it only got away after the 2nd climb. Poels picked up the KoM points on both those hills.

    11 man break then got away and Astana kept it quite close all day but gave a bit more leeway on the penultimate climb. TJVG was in the break but crashed out on a descent but recovered to finish the stage but came in last by the look of things.

    Biggest news is probably a big crash in the bunch, Uran and Carthy both out & gone to hospital to be checked over, De La Parte retired and Roche retired. Formolo hurt but carried on and struggled, Higuita hurt too but not as badly and continued OK.

    Crikey. I really did miss a big day. Got to love the Vuelta and got to love the lack of the Sky train…makes things very unpredictable.

    So just Higuita now really for EF…and he’s not looking that great up the toughest of summits.

    Valverde actually looks like he could have a good shot at winning this…Roglic aside.

    August 29, 2019 at 3:28 pm #947979
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Missed the entire thing today due to Ikea shopping…grrrr….

    Sounds like,I missed a,lot…anybody want to give a run down for me please.

    Stage pretty much worked as I thought today…i fancied Herrada to do well in a stage sometime (as above) but then again i’ve felt this race is set up for a series of Herrada’s and plenty of them. On balance I think I would have gone for TDG or Soler if i’d have made any changes….so…pffft….

    It was a big battle to get in the break, it only got away after the 2nd climb. Poels picked up the KoM points on both those hills.

    11 man break then got away and Astana kept it quite close all day but gave a bit more leeway on the penultimate climb. TJVG was in the break but crashed out on a descent but recovered to finish the stage but came in last by the look of things.

    Biggest news is probably a big crash in the bunch, Uran and Carthy both out & gone to hospital to be checked over, De La Parte retired and Roche retired. Formolo hurt but carried on and struggled, Higuita hurt too but not as badly and continued OK.

    August 29, 2019 at 3:19 pm #947977
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    Dr Winston

    Missed the entire thing today

    Missed the entire thing today due to Ikea shopping…grrrr….

    Sounds like,I missed a,lot…anybody want to give a run down for me please.

    Stage pretty much worked as I thought today…i fancied Herrada to do well in a stage sometime (as above) but then again i’ve felt this race is set up for a series of Herrada’s and plenty of them. On balance I think I would have gone for TDG or Soler if i’d have made any changes….so…pffft….

    August 29, 2019 at 2:59 pm #947975
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    MinardiM189
    JohnnyRemo wrote:
    Anyone else just spent the stage not realising they had the wrong Herrada?

     

    Not the wrong one today ?

    August 29, 2019 at 2:02 pm #947973
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    Condor Andy
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Decimating stage so far

    Uran, Roche, Carthy & De La Parte all retired after a crash in the bunch.

    Hopefully none are hurt badly.

    Several others aren’t looking great either, Higuita and Formolo to name a couple. Such a shame, Roche was going for a decent GC position, Uran looked in good form, and I was looking forward to what Carthy was capable of.

    August 29, 2019 at 12:56 pm #947971
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    MinardiM189

    Decimating stage so far

    Decimating stage so far

    Uran, Roche, Carthy & De La Parte all retired after a crash in the bunch.

    Hopefully none are hurt badly.

    August 29, 2019 at 10:51 am #947969
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    MinardiM189
    Condor Andy wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Anybody taking a gamble tomorrow?

    Today was very interesting  with nobody really bothering much chasing down the break…same again tomorrow? I can see no reason why it would be any different.

    The final climb isn’t as hard, tomorrow’s is. So it’ll be another breakaway win today, and probably a larger one than it was yesterday. A few KOM points on offer, but nothing to trouble Madrazo who’ll want to rest after yesterday. I can see a few people who might fancy it, but is it worth it in the grand scheme of things? If I make any changes it’ll only be a couple, but it probably isn’t worth it.

    Given how things have gone so far it looks like it is going to be an uphill bunch sprint for puncheurs.

    and I haven’t got Valverde indecision

    August 29, 2019 at 9:03 am #947967
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    Condor Andy
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Anybody taking a gamble tomorrow?

    Today was very interesting  with nobody really bothering much chasing down the break…same again tomorrow? I can see no reason why it would be any different.

    The final climb isn’t as hard, tomorrow’s is. So it’ll be another breakaway win today, and probably a larger one than it was yesterday. A few KOM points on offer, but nothing to trouble Madrazo who’ll want to rest after yesterday. I can see a few people who might fancy it, but is it worth it in the grand scheme of things? If I make any changes it’ll only be a couple, but it probably isn’t worth it.

    August 28, 2019 at 10:15 pm #947965
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    Dr Winston

    Anybody taking a gamble

    Anybody taking a gamble tomorrow?

    Today was very interesting  with nobody really bothering much chasing down the break…same again tomorrow? I can see no reason why it would be any different.

    August 28, 2019 at 7:51 pm #947963
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    Dr Winston
    JohnnyRemo wrote:
    Anyone else just spent the stage not realising they had the wrong Herrada?

     

    Nope….I did however spend a while thinking I had the wrong Higuita.

    August 28, 2019 at 6:54 pm #947961
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    JohnnyRemo

    Anyone else just spent the

    Anyone else just spent the stage not realising they had the wrong Herrada?

     

    August 28, 2019 at 4:35 pm #947959
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    Dr Winston
    Dr Winston wrote:
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Looks like my hunch about Herrada was right (amongst others) pity i didn’t pick him…not sure the other two riders have enough about them to make it stick though. Madraza over Aru looks like it might be ok though.

    It is Jose Herrada not Jesus, so I think it is unlikely any of these wins unless the group gives them a 10 minute start on the final climb, even then I’m not sure.

    Burgos team manager thinks they need 5 minutes at the bottom of the fianl climb.

    Dear god. Just checked my brothers team…he actually brought in Jose Herrada and Madrazo. Where the hell did he drag that from. Where in his wildest imaginings did he decide Jose Herrada was a pick for today.

    Pigging hell….he won the stage….Well done….

    August 28, 2019 at 4:27 pm #947957
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    Dr Winston
    MinardiM189 wrote:
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Looks like my hunch about Herrada was right (amongst others) pity i didn’t pick him…not sure the other two riders have enough about them to make it stick though. Madraza over Aru looks like it might be ok though.

    It is Jose Herrada not Jesus, so I think it is unlikely any of these wins unless the group gives them a 10 minute start on the final climb, even then I’m not sure.

    Burgos team manager thinks they need 5 minutes at the bottom of the fianl climb.

    Dear god. Just checked my brothers team…he actually brought in Jose Herrada and Madrazo. Where the hell did he drag that from. Where in his wildest imaginings did he decide Jose Herrada was a pick for today.

    August 28, 2019 at 1:20 pm #947955
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    MinardiM189
    Dr Winston wrote:
    Looks like my hunch about Herrada was right (amongst others) pity i didn’t pick him…not sure the other two riders have enough about them to make it stick though. Madraza over Aru looks like it might be ok though.

    It is Jose Herrada not Jesus, so I think it is unlikely any of these wins unless the group gives them a 10 minute start on the final climb, even then I’m not sure.

    Burgos team manager thinks they need 5 minutes at the bottom of the fianl climb.

    August 28, 2019 at 1:03 pm #947953
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    Dr Winston

    Looks like my hunch about

    Looks like my hunch about Herrada was right (amongst others) pity i didn’t pick him…not sure the other two riders have enough about them to make it stick though. Madraza over Aru looks like it might be ok though.

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