Is the Rim Brake dead?

I hope they aren’t dead I

I hope they aren’t dead I love direct mount rim brakes with alloy wheels. They are powerful and so easy to set up and maintain. My disc brake bike rubs, the shop sets them up and after a couple of rides they rub, I adjust them and after a few rides they rub. When you look at how they are designed and fit together thay are always going to rub. I appreciate how powerful disc brakes but direct mount rim brakes are powerful enough for me and I value how easy they are to maintain. 

I’ve always been happy with

I’ve always been happy with rim brakes but I have one set of wheels – ironically my winter wheels – on which they just don’t work as well. Calipers are 105 with koolstop pads which work really well on two other sets of wheels 

BehindTheBikesheds wrote:

Plasterer’s Radio wrote:

BehindTheBikesheds wrote:

disc bikes are the very definition of ugly

Show me the source of your very definition, please, Oh Great Wise One.

My old CRT TV was perfectly adequate too, unlike my big LED 4k HD TV, which is lots better.

If discs were on bikes first, rim bakes would never have been invented.

So you think that bikes with more protusions, worse angular lines is like comparing a new TV to an old CRT. HAHAHAHAHAHA, get some glasses sonshine!

You still haven’t answered my query about definition, but just stated opinion….sonshine 

Plasterer’s Radio wrote:

BehindTheBikesheds wrote:

disc bikes are the very definition of ugly

Show me the source of your very definition, please, Oh Great Wise One.

My old CRT TV was perfectly adequate too, unlike my big LED 4k HD TV, which is lots better.

If discs were on bikes first, rim bakes would never have been invented.

So you think that bikes with more protusions, worse angular lines is like comparing a new TV to an old CRT. HAHAHAHAHAHA, get some glasses sonshine!

RafatheRed wrote:

My point in asking about rim brakes is because i want a certain typr of road bike. Im looking for an Endurance Bike. Now most of these types of bikes are either disc or soon will be. Giant Endurance bikes are disc only,there ‘all rounder’ top end is disc. Others are following suit.Seems the ‘sportive’,endurance rider will have no choice but go for disc.

What is an ‘Endurance’ bike?, how does it differ say from any other bike?

I’m looking at buying a KTM revelator for a friend, it’ll take 28mm tyres. My 2013 ex-stock conti pro team model KTM Strada takes 28mm tyres too. I don’t know how successful the team were using that model but it certainly wasn’t classed as an ‘endurance’ bike but I find it plenty comfortable over long distances, not an agressive position because I haven’t ‘slammed’ it or bought a frame two sizes too small.

There are hundreds of good quality bikes that can be everything you want it to be and are not disc frames, this labelling is just marketing bullshit. I totally disagree with your summation “the ‘sportive’,endurance rider will have no choice but go for disc.”

I could pick 10 bikes in about 10 minutes that you could ride 100 miles in all weathers and they’re rim braked and are bloody damn good bikes.

The sad thing is that this thread and many others reflect how people fail to understand human psychology. As I’ve said elsewhere, discs will induce very similar/same as per other improvements in braking tech and not just on bikes.

You take more risks, you go faster into a certain corner or up to a set of lights (because your new braking point is now further up the road) you leave the braking that little bit later, we’ve all done it. Yet now it can and will get to the point where any unexpected occurence could leave you with not enough time/distance to react because you’ve gone faster, left the braking later, with less thinking time than you had before and the discs will not be able to overcome that shortened timescale because you still need the same thinking/reaction time and mechanical action time before you even apply the brakes.

This is highlighted perfectly in the way the MET police used a brand new disc braked bike in their case against Alliston, they braked knowing where to brake, and yet this falsely replicated what actually happens in an unexpected event (so should have been unadmissable). If the cop on the bike would have braked 0.7+0.4seconds later (higher end reactions plus mechanical action time) he would not have being able to brake in the distance Alliston was alleged to have traversed before collision and thus still collided.

I said riders on discs in the pro ranks won’t have fewer crashes, I don’t believe riders away from racing using discs will have fewer crashes either.

Anybody saying disc braked bikes look better than rim braked bikes have a very twisted way of thinking IMO, disc bikes are the very definition of ugly, even the shifter.brake hoods are a dogs dinner!

I like both.

I like both. I have discs on my CX and love the extra bite in the wet winter. I bought a new TCR and went for rim brakes.

Been using disc brakes from 2001 onwards in my mtbs and would never use rim brakes for mtb again.

Anyone who says rim brakes

Anyone who says rim brakes are dead is talking bllocks.