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Is the Rim Brake dead?

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  • October 29, 2018 at 6:42 pm #29088
    RafatheRed

    Hi All,

                Im still looking for a new bike and according to the boss at my LBS the rim brake would be a bad choice as everyone are now going disc and the rim is going to be a thing of the past. Is he right? or is he pushing for a higher priced bike sell?I have a Cube Attain SL with rims which i hoping to sell to raise funds for a new bike.

    Im looking at the DOMANE AL5 (Rim Brake) and the Giant CONTEND SL DISC.

     

    thanks

     

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  • October 30, 2018 at 10:14 am #930417
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    FatAndFurious

    Also considering a new bike..

    Also considering a new bike…. and making the leap to carbon rims, so I feel that discs are the better way to go. If someone has switched from rim to disc but not changed the type of riding that they do, I’d love to know how wear rates compare.

    Is there an increased frequency of pad replacement?
    Can you actually wear through a rotor?

    Just wanting to know what I’d be signing up for in advance…..

     

    October 30, 2018 at 10:13 am #930415
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    Joe Totale

    Hydro Disc brakes for the

    Hydro Disc brakes for the commuter/winter bike

    Rim brakes for the good bike

    I’ve never had an issue with stopping in the dry with rim brakes and I find them a fair bit easier to maintain. My usual LBS is loving disc brakes as it’s given them plenty more work. 

    Maybe I’m in a minority but I want the good bike to be light, high performing in the dry and aesthetically pleasing, I find rim brakes tick all those boxes nicely and far most cost effectively then a disc system would. 

     

    October 30, 2018 at 9:55 am #930413
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    vonhelmet

    I will bet that they stop

    I will bet that they stop making bicycles before they stop making rim brakes. Any takers?

    October 30, 2018 at 9:37 am #930411
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    kil0ran

    If you’re riding year-round

    If you’re riding year-round commuting, or your routes take in anything other than tarmac then go with discs. Preferably full hydros with sintered pads. Similarly if you’re riding carbon rims in real-world conditions (i.e. wet, without a pro mechanic to back you up) go with discs.

    For all other applications rim brakes have their place. Cheap, light, easy to maintain. I’m 18st and I get enough power from my 105 brakes to stop safely in the dry from 30mph+, or my usual 20mph urban pace. That’s from the hoods or the drops.

    When I was commuting I preferred discs but now I only tend to ride in the dry on flowing roads where I don’t have to brake much I prefer the simplicity of rims. Yet to try full hydro discs on cost grounds – because I know they’d then lead to a carbon wheelset purchase!

    October 30, 2018 at 8:55 am #930409
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    brooksby

    I hope rim brakes aren’t dead

    I hope rim brakes aren’t dead – I’ve only just worked out how to properly fit/replace and adjust them… 

    October 30, 2018 at 8:25 am #930407
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    Mungecrundle

    Rim brakes are perfectly good

    Rim brakes are perfectly good at stopping a bicycle but disc brakes and especially hydraulic setups are better, for most riders in most circumstances. Style wise is where rim brakes will eventually score, maybe not for the next 10 years or so when they will just look old fashioned, but after that they will become retro and old skool cool just like downtube shifters, quill pedals and proper brazed lug work.

    October 30, 2018 at 8:21 am #930405
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    IanEdward

    I pray to god that rim brakes

    I pray to god that rim brakes never die, because then I’ll be forced to spend hundreds of pounds more on a heavier bike with brakes that squeal and howl in the wet and make every wet commute a humiliating, unpleasant ordeal.

    I do believe that squeal/howl free disc brakes do exist, or at least those that aren’t quite as horrific as the ones I’ve experienced so far, but I’ve wasted far too much time and money trying different brakes/rotors/pads to no avail. Am currently on my fourth set of rotors (Shimano XT this time) and waiting to find the time and weather to take them to my nearest big hill in order to painstakingly bed them in as per all the guides you see online. 

    Meanwhile my commuter with TRP mini-V brakes and Swisstop BXP pads just keeps on trucking along. Sure they’re less powerful than good hydraulic disc brakes, but I only need that sort of power on my MTB or maybe CX bike, when I want to hammer into corners, brake late and hard, then roll through. My road bike is on Ultegra rim brakes with, guess what? Swisstop BXPs. 

    October 30, 2018 at 7:50 am #930403
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    Russell Orgazoid

    Not dead but moribund.

    Not dead but moribund.

    Rim brakes have a small weight advantage and are cheaper  but are inferior in ever other way IMO. Think iPhone vs a cheap old Nokia….I bet you have the smartphone.

    Why wouldn’t you want great brakes, after all.

    October 30, 2018 at 1:02 am #930401
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    Paul7189

    RafatheRed wrote:

    RafatheRed wrote:
    Hi,thanks for your comments. I think I’m leaning to the Contend,shame about the ugly conduct system but I believe it works well.

     

    The conduct braking system is actually really good. Bikes fitted with it are also supplied with the conduct accessory kit which has a gps, light and gopro mount and when this is fitted the conduct system doesnt even register it just looks like an integrated mount for your stuff.

     

    Have a look on ebay at the defy advanced models available from last year. RM cycles has a defy advanced 3 for £1000 and an advanced 2 for £1250. Obviously depends on your size if they have the stock.

    October 30, 2018 at 12:40 am #930399
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    Judge dreadful

    Rim brakes aren’t dead, they

    Rim brakes aren’t dead, they’re just resting.

    October 29, 2018 at 10:24 pm #930397
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    vonhelmet

    Dead?  What a load of

    Dead?  What a load of bollocks.

    October 29, 2018 at 9:52 pm #930395
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    CXR94Di2

    Hydraulic brakes are really

    Hydraulic brakes are really good in less than ideal conditions.  Ive now gone one step further on my road bike and are fitting 4 pot calipers by Hope. The Shimano brakes are excellent, but I want more braking power with finer modulation

    October 29, 2018 at 9:02 pm #930393
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    2xthirteen

    +1 for hydralics. I’d buy rim

    +1 for hydralics. I’d buy rim brakes over cable disc brakes. I’ve had cable disc on my mtb bike and hated them. I replaced them with hydralics and never looked back.

    Disclaimer: as a former motorcycle racer I’m a bit ocd about brakes. Why’d I buy rim on my road bike then? I hate the feel of every cable disc setup I’ve ever tried and I didn’t want to spend the $$ to get hydralic disc.

    October 29, 2018 at 8:37 pm #930391
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    RafatheRed

    Hi,thanks for your comments.
    Hi,thanks for your comments. I think I’m leaning to the Contend,shame about the ugly conduct system but I believe it works well.

    October 29, 2018 at 8:08 pm #930389
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    hawkinspeter

    Discs are great, but the rim

    Discs are great, but the rim brake is by no means dead. However, if you haven’t got a strong preference, then I’d recommend going with hydraulic discs (I’m not convinced about the cable operated ones being particularly good) as they give much better control of braking, especially in the wet. They do cost more, though.

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