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Is the Rim Brake dead?

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  • October 29, 2018 at 6:42 pm #29088
    RafatheRed

    Hi All,

                Im still looking for a new bike and according to the boss at my LBS the rim brake would be a bad choice as everyone are now going disc and the rim is going to be a thing of the past. Is he right? or is he pushing for a higher priced bike sell?I have a Cube Attain SL with rims which i hoping to sell to raise funds for a new bike.

    Im looking at the DOMANE AL5 (Rim Brake) and the Giant CONTEND SL DISC.

     

    thanks

     

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  • October 31, 2018 at 6:46 pm #930477
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    ibr17xvii
    yupiteru wrote:

    Just my opinion obviously but I will never buy a road bike with disc brakes, totally unecessary is the main reason.  On a mountain bike yes but I have cycled for many years and have always been able to stop ok on the road with rim brakes. 

    Also I think road bikes should look beautiful and disc brakes have looks only a mother would love, so no the rim brake is far from dead and will long outlive this fad and fashion accessory called road disc brakes.

    Totally agreed with you until I tried them.

    I would say they are very necessary if you cycle in the UK through winter.

    Just my opinion.

    October 31, 2018 at 3:56 pm #930475
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    IanEdward

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    But I tend to ride a bit slower in the wet anyway.

    Lol, I didn’t want to be the first to admit it but yeah, I save the heroics for dry days, doesn’t matter what brakes you have when you hit that wet drain cover or pile of leaves!

    October 31, 2018 at 3:28 pm #930473
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    Jem PT

    My MTB has discs and they

    My MTB has discs and they ALWAYS squeel, no matter what I do to them.

    My road bike has rims and, no, they’re not as strong in the wet. But I tend to ride a bit slower in the wet anyway. Whenever I am on a group (road) ride, there is invariably one other rider with discs, and they always make a racket.

    When I buy my next road bike, I will want it to have rim brakes.

    October 31, 2018 at 1:40 pm #930471
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    Kendalred

    Like some on here, I have

    Like some on here, I have both on two bikes. The rim brakes on the summer/dry best bike, and hydro discs on the wet/winter commuter, and the discs just fill me with far more confidence. If I were to get a new ‘best’ bike, then I would go disc, but given my current bestie is a custom made Rourke steel beauty, then that’s not gonna happen for quite some time.

    As for the original post, I think there is probably some validity to what the LBS said, you just have to look through the pages of cycling magazine adverts, and most are for disc brake equipped bikes these days. We may all be expressing a preference for one or the other, but in the end it will be down to the industry itself which way it goes, not so much us the customers – especailly now the pro-peloton have started to use them. Put it another way, when was the last time you saw a new model with down-tube shifters?

    October 31, 2018 at 12:20 pm #930469
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    risoto

    I have all three, rim,

    I have all three, rim, mechincal discs and hydraulic. I prefer rim brakes. They are dead easy to maintain, very effective and cheap. The pro peloton is 95% rim brakes, so you would think they work ok when they descend the Tourmalet at 90 km/h….hmmm.

    I you enjoy riding in the mud disc brakes are probably better. And if you ride with expensive carbon wheels to protect them from wear on the rims.

    October 31, 2018 at 12:17 pm #930467
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    risoto

    I have all three, rim,

    I have all three, rim, mechincal discs and hydraulic. I prefer rim brakes. They are dead easy to maintain, very effective and cheap. The pro peloton is 95% rim brakes, so you would think they work ok when they descend the Tourmalet at 90 km/h….hmmm. I you like enjoy riding in the mud disc brakes are probably better.

    October 30, 2018 at 8:24 pm #930465
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    RafatheRed
    hawkinspeter wrote:
    RafatheRed wrote:
    I take your point,been mountain biking for 30 years but only 4 mouths on the road.

    Bournemouth, Portsmouth, Plymouth and Great Yarmouth?

    Bristol,various bike parks in Wales,Yes Bournmouth (the bike park at Moors Valley)

    October 30, 2018 at 8:15 pm #930463
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    RafatheRed

    IanEdward wrote:

    IanEdward wrote:
    Rafa, you’re absolutely right about endurance bikes and discs, it’s the main reason I keep returning to this argument as it annoys me that as an inflexible desk jockey that aspires to ride big distances, the manufacturers have mostly decided that I *must* have discs. Nice, high end endurance road bikes do exist without discs, I got a Rose Xeon Team GF, triple butted aluminium and direct mount rim brakes. Trek do some (Domane and/or Emonda?) and even the new Specialized Allez

    Trek have the Domane in there Endurance range.They have no disc brake options between £1000 to £2000 range! However they have a rim brake Domane priced at £1100.It looks nice and has 105 spec. I spoke with my LBS today and asked how long do rims last.He said his lasted 3 years. Its funny but also when cleaning my bike i noticed that my rim brakes were scrated underneath from possible bits of debris  stone from my tyres. My tyre width is 28mm. 

    The Allez Elite looks interesting at £1000.£100 Cheaper than the Domane but no 105 crankset or brakes.Shame. The disc version comes in at £1800. 

    i dont want to buy from the internet.

    October 30, 2018 at 7:07 pm #930461
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    IanEdward

    Rafa, you’re absolutely right
    Rafa, you’re absolutely right about endurance bikes and discs, it’s the main reason I keep returning to this argument as it annoys me that as an inflexible desk jockey that aspires to ride big distances, the manufacturers have mostly decided that I *must* have discs.

    Nice, high end endurance road bikes do exist without discs, I got a Rose Xeon Team GF, triple butted aluminium and direct mount rim brakes. Trek do some (Domane and/or Emonda?) and even the new Specialized Allez

    October 30, 2018 at 6:30 pm #930459
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    vonhelmet
    RafatheRed wrote:
    So are the road cyclist in 2 different camps. Im seeing that it could be.On one hand you will have the racers with rim brakes and the endurance riders with disc as all endurance bikes will go disc only at some point.

     

    Nope. Both groups use both types, and I think they will continue to do so.

    October 30, 2018 at 6:21 pm #930457
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    RafatheRed

    So are the road cyclist in 2

    So are the road cyclist in 2 different camps. Im seeing that it could be.On one hand you will have the racers with rim brakes and the endurance riders with disc as all endurance bikes will go disc only at some point.

     

    October 30, 2018 at 6:00 pm #930455
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    gonedownhill

    I find discs (TRP Hy-Rds)

    I find discs (TRP Hy-Rds) much better in heavy rain. Also I can slam the anchors on and stop quicker if a driver pulls a dick move in town in any condition. But they are pretty fiddly to set up perfectly and are expensive.

    Personally if I were buying a new bike I would only bother with discs if I needed to commute on it, if it were my ‘summer bike’ I wouldn’t bother as I personally rarely go for a leisure ride if the weather isn’t half decent, certainly not often enough to drop a few hundred quid extra. I don’t have bling wheels so there is no money saving there in my case.

    October 30, 2018 at 5:57 pm #930453
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    RafatheRed

    My point in asking about rim

    My point in asking about rim brakes is because i want a certain typr of road bike. Im looking for an Endurance Bike. Now most of these types of bikes are either disc or soon will be. Giant Endurance bikes are disc only,there ‘all rounder’ top end is disc. Others are following suit.Seems the ‘sportive’,endurance rider will have no choice but go for disc.

    October 30, 2018 at 5:44 pm #930451
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    fenix

    Rim Brakes are so easy to

    Rim Brakes are so easy to work with.

    Disc Brakes seem to need a degree in the dark arts to understand.

    Valverde won his rainbow bands on a bike with rim brakes – and he had the choice.

    I genuinely think its 80% marketing and 20% innovation.  I’m perfectly happy with rim brakes – but if you want discs – go for it. 

    October 30, 2018 at 5:32 pm #930449
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    yupiteru

    Just my opinion obviously but

    Just my opinion obviously but I will never buy a road bike with disc brakes, totally unecessary is the main reason.  On a mountain bike yes but I have cycled for many years and have always been able to stop ok on the road with rim brakes. 

    Also I think road bikes should look beautiful and disc brakes have looks only a mother would love, so no the rim brake is far from dead and will long outlive this fad and fashion accessory called road disc brakes.

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