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  • December 26, 2017 at 6:46 pm #27951
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    Hi and merry Xmas to everyone. I’ve decided to take my cycling more seriously after a few months on a relative’s bike. I’ve also got some money to spend so I would like a really nice bike even though I’m not a pro. In particular, I’m liking the Pinarello Dogma F10 X-Light but as a noob I virtually have no idea where to begin selecting some components.

    I know I want a Dura Ace groupset though I’m not sure which one. Dura Ace wheels, probably tubular, but again not sure whether to go for C40/60. I’m leaning towards C60. Pros/cons?

    I also need to pick other components but don’t know what to get. Could someone identify for me the components used on the X-Light on the Pinarello website and also on Chris Froome’s bike if there is a difference.

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  • December 28, 2017 at 8:22 am #908503
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    Charlie-CarbsAndCycling
    SingleSpeed wrote:
    kil0ran wrote:
    52T big ring, 32 ring on the cassette.

     

    If you need gear ratios like that then there are many local Golf clubs just begging for members.

     

    haha good joke mate- same gear i run with a 5w/kg FTP so unless you are a pro with 6w/kg FTP or live in florida then you should stop laughing at gear choices that people need. OP iif i were you i would go 34-32 easisest gear so you can spin up any climb and unless you are racing then a 50-11 is more than a big enough gear.  If you want the best bike get a giant tcr advanced sl with etap that is outrageously light and very stiff. 

    Bit old this article but still gold in showing why you should get a giant tcr https://www.bournemouthcycleworks.co.uk/2012/10/the-truth-about-road-bike-frame-testing/

     

    Also have fun spending your money mate

    December 28, 2017 at 7:54 am #908501
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    ibr17xvii
    SingleSpeed wrote:
    kil0ran wrote:
    52T big ring, 32 ring on the cassette.

     

    If you need gear ratios like that then there are many local Golf clubs just begging for members.

    With respect what a load of absolute bollocks.

    December 28, 2017 at 1:55 am #908499
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    2old2mould wrote:
    I saw a really fat bloke riding a Dogma when I did the Wiggle French Revolution in 2016. I say riding, he was pushing it up a hill.

    If you are going to buy a Dogma, you better have the legs for it otherwise you’ll get mocked mercilessly by other riders who pass you, and everyone will want to pass you.

    they sound like a herd of neurotic school kids driven by their own insecurities and immaturity

    December 28, 2017 at 1:52 am #908497
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    jrg91 wrote:
    don simon wrote:
    Richbeck wrote:
    Move away from the crowd.

    Bespoke Reynolds 953 frame, Campag Super Record, handbuilt wheels to your spec/riding style – contact points/cockpit to suit and for comfort.

     

    buy a Pinarello and someone else will have one – Bespoke bike – one of a kind!

    I’d seriously have a look at a custom frame builder and get soemthing that will fit and be fit for purpose.

    They should talk to you about riding style and, obviously, give you a bike that fits. They’ll also guide you through components too.

    You’ll end up with something that’s far more special than today’s trend bike.

    Wouldn’t I need to be even more knowledgeable/experienced to know what I want from a custom build though. And where would I go to look into this?

    no. A frame builder talks to you about the type of riding that you do, and the type you want to do. Then they talk you through component choices, suggesting and recommending based on what you’ve said and their reading of you, choice the colour and finish, measure you, take a deposit and say come back in three months. In three months you have a perfect bike which exactly suits you and your type of riding.

    December 28, 2017 at 12:58 am #908495
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    2old2mould

    I saw a really fat bloke

    I saw a really fat bloke riding a Dogma when I did the Wiggle French Revolution in 2016. I say riding, he was pushing it up a hill.

    If you are going to buy a Dogma, you better have the legs for it otherwise you’ll get mocked mercilessly by other riders who pass you, and everyone will want to pass you.

    If you want a ‘pro’ experience then try a Cannondale Supersix Evo (or even a CAAD12), Spesh Tarmac or something like a Giant TCR Advanced Pro. These are tour quality race bikes that will get you a knowing nod at the cafe without every Cavendish wannabe wanting to crush you on the hills for the bragging rights. Plus, you can walk into most bike shops and try one off the shelf.

    Go for Ultegra. I love Campagnolo but it’s a money pit.

    Throw away the wheels (unless they are something like Giant’s SLRs) and if you want deep carbon for ‘everyday’ riding go for 35 – 40mm. 60mm rims provide no real benefit on a road bike where riding in a pack provides as much protection from the wind as you’ll get from the Aero effect.

    With the money you’ve saved get a decent winter bike that will take 28c+ tyres and mudguards and ideally that has discs (although non-disc will enable wheels sharing, but you won’t want to ride your precious 40mm carbon rims on wet UK roads).

    Nurse, next patient please… 

     

    December 28, 2017 at 12:27 am #908493
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    don simon fbpe
    jrg91 wrote:
    don simon wrote:
    Richbeck wrote:
    Move away from the crowd.

    Bespoke Reynolds 953 frame, Campag Super Record, handbuilt wheels to your spec/riding style – contact points/cockpit to suit and for comfort.

     

    buy a Pinarello and someone else will have one – Bespoke bike – one of a kind!

    I’d seriously have a look at a custom frame builder and get soemthing that will fit and be fit for purpose.

    They should talk to you about riding style and, obviously, give you a bike that fits. They’ll also guide you through components too.

    You’ll end up with something that’s far more special than today’s trend bike.

    Wouldn’t I need to be even more knowledgeable/experienced to know what I want from a custom build though. And where would I go to look into this?

    Even more knowledge than what? You know that you want a Chris Froome bike without knowing what the components are simply because some bloke told you to buy a cheap motorbike instead of a Kenny Roberts replica. You have the cash, so spend it as you don’t need advice, it’s your money so spend it as you see fit. No one will mock you and we’re all here to make an offer when it pops up in the classifieds  help you in the final purchase.

    You have the answers, listen to your inner self and buy the Chris Froome bike.

    I’d wait for him to get busted for being a druggie first, they’ll drop in price.

    And I’ll show you how to use this new search tool called Google on this interweb thingy in the New Year when we can forget this goodwill to all men crap…

    December 28, 2017 at 12:09 am #908491
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    Anonymous
    don simon wrote:
    Richbeck wrote:
    Move away from the crowd.

    Bespoke Reynolds 953 frame, Campag Super Record, handbuilt wheels to your spec/riding style – contact points/cockpit to suit and for comfort.

     

    buy a Pinarello and someone else will have one – Bespoke bike – one of a kind!

    I’d seriously have a look at a custom frame builder and get soemthing that will fit and be fit for purpose.

    They should talk to you about riding style and, obviously, give you a bike that fits. They’ll also guide you through components too.

    You’ll end up with something that’s far more special than today’s trend bike.

    Wouldn’t I need to be even more knowledgeable/experienced to know what I want from a custom build though. And where would I go to look into this?

    December 27, 2017 at 11:59 pm #908489
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    don simon fbpe
    rjfrussell wrote:
    Original Poster is a troll, surely??  No-one would really post those questions in all seriousness.

    Totally agree, but it is the season of goodwill.

    December 27, 2017 at 11:56 pm #908487
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    Anonymous

    You’re all beginning to sway

    You’re all beginning to sway me away from the F10. I had already considered, as some have mentioned, that it may be more enjoyable in a way to start out with less and gradually build up.

    I kind of like Specialized as well, in particular, I think maybe the Allez would be a good bike for me but I guess it might all depend on my LBS. Although I have also considered traveling to pick up a bike and then have maintenance done at the LBS as I learn to do my own.

    I really wanted the bike to start taking my training seriously and so I was thinking of getting a power meter, HR sensor etc. But someone advised against that at this point. What do the rest of you think?

    December 27, 2017 at 10:26 pm #908485
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    rjfrussell

    Original Poster is a troll,

    Original Poster is a troll, surely??  No-one would really post those questions in all seriousness.

    December 27, 2017 at 9:49 pm #908483
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    OR_biker

    As far as wheels go, I wouldn

    As far as wheels go, I wouldn’t suggest tubulars for normal riding.  Friend of mine got a great deal on some deep carbon tubs and thought they were amazing… until his third ride with them when he punctured.  Had to call his wife to get picked up.  That’s some bad luck on his part, but you’d have to decide if the risk of getting stranded is worth it to you.  Going tubeless might be a better option and could give you more versatility.

    December 27, 2017 at 9:20 pm #908481
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    OR_biker

    CXR94Di2 wrote:

    CXR94Di2 wrote:
    Nothing wrong with 52t chainring and 32t Cass. Not all of us are lightweight riders. Heavyweight riders need more gearing for steep hills

    Exactly.  I do pretty well for my experience level on the flat, but I’m also about 200 lbs.  Most of that is in my legs and chest/shoulders,/arms, but it still can be tough going fast up some of the nearby hills – have a lot of 10-15% inclines around me.  My bike came with 50/34-12/28, changed the cassette to 11/28 and I’m usually on the upper end of my gears, but there are also enough times I still have to bail into the lowest gear that I don’t want to give up those ratios completely.  Figure a 52/36-11/32 would really hit a sweet-spot for me.

    December 27, 2017 at 9:08 pm #908479
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    Grahamd

    CXR94Di2 wrote:

    CXR94Di2 wrote:
    Nothing wrong with 52t chainring and 32t Cass. Not all of us are lightweight riders. Heavyweight riders need more gearing for steep hills

    Agree, also depends what your local climbs are. I am fortunate to have 3 of the official 100 UK climbs on my doorstep, I’ll keep my compact and 32 thank you.

     

    December 27, 2017 at 9:02 pm #908477
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    CXR94Di2

    Nothing wrong with 52t
    Nothing wrong with 52t chainring and 32t Cass. Not all of us are lightweight riders. Heavyweight riders need more gearing for steep hills

    December 27, 2017 at 8:54 pm #908475
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    SingleSpeed
    kil0ran wrote:
    52T big ring, 32 ring on the cassette.

     

    If you need gear ratios like that then there are many local Golf clubs just begging for members.

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