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December 26, 2017 at 6:46 pm #27951
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Hi and merry Xmas to everyone. I’ve decided to take my cycling more seriously after a few months on a relative’s bike. I’ve also got some money to spend so I would like a really nice bike even though I’m not a pro. In particular, I’m liking the Pinarello Dogma F10 X-Light but as a noob I virtually have no idea where to begin selecting some components.
I know I want a Dura Ace groupset though I’m not sure which one. Dura Ace wheels, probably tubular, but again not sure whether to go for C40/60. I’m leaning towards C60. Pros/cons?
I also need to pick other components but don’t know what to get. Could someone identify for me the components used on the X-Light on the Pinarello website and also on Chris Froome’s bike if there is a difference.
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cyclisto
It’s nice having huge amounts
It’s nice having huge amounts of money to spent on a bicycle although I don’t really agree with the concept of irrational expenditures. But it is a much nicer trip to start from an entry level bicycle, see what you don’t like and upgrade it. You will end up with a worse bike for the money spent but you will have learned a lot during the process
don simon fbpe
alansmurphy wrote:
alansmurphy wrote:The reason people are asking your height is so we can buy it off you in a year for a third of the price when you decide to play golf instead 🙂 Having a wedge doesn’t mean you should spend a wedge, where do you anticipate going from there? Over a number of years I’ve worked up from second hand with Sora to an £1,800 carbon with 105. The upgrades have made things better as I’ve improved and I knew where to get bang for my buck. If a Pinarello is your desire you can probably get a 2014 Froome like copy second hand for around £2.5k, the frame won’t have changed that much. Then work out after a years riding where to continue to upgrade or go big!What do you know about golf? I’m thinking of a more business oriented sport and am looking for the best clubs. I’ve heard that Tiger fella is pretty good, that dude that advertises Banco Santander isn’t too shabby either. Do you know what clubs they’re using? I fancy having a pop at this sport. Where do these guys buy their kit, it’ll obviously help me in having the best clothes too… Etc…
alansmurphy
Not 2.5 but an example
Not 2.5 but an exampleThe reason people are asking
The reason people are asking your height is so we can buy it off you in a year for a third of the price when you decide to play golf instead 🙂Having a wedge doesn’t mean you should spend a wedge, where do you anticipate going from there? Over a number of years I’ve worked up from second hand with Sora to an £1,800 carbon with 105. The upgrades have made things better as I’ve improved and I knew where to get bang for my buck.
If a Pinarello is your desire you can probably get a 2014 Froome like copy second hand for around £2.5k, the frame won’t have changed that much. Then work out after a years riding where to continue to upgrade or go big!
Grahamd
jrg91 wrote:Yes eventually I will be going to an LBS an try to see what fits/suits me. But this actually raises an important point: say the LBS doesn’t have components I like how can I be sure anything I research online will fit/suit? Or am I just limited to what they have available? I ask because I have a feeling the LBS would be quite limited though I do need to go check.Also, if I don’t completely copy the bike for these reasons can you suggest good brands for these components that I can look into as well as further suggestions on models, materials, etc along with explanations so I can start learning.
I found out from Pinarello supplier in UK, google pinarelloexperience.com
Very best of luck.
p.s. Forgot to mention that I was advised that hire fees can be deducted from purchase price, but have not seen it written anywhere.
Indicative hire fees for F10 show as from £95 per day.
CXR94Di2
Hi and merry Xmas to everyone
Hi and merry Xmas to everyone. I’ve decided to take my cycling more seriously after a few months on a relative’s bike.(1) I’ve also got some money to spend so I would like a really nice bike even though I’m not a pro. (2)In particular, I’m liking the Pinarello Dogma F10 X-Light but as a noob I virtually have no idea where to begin selecting some components.(3)
I know I want a Dura Ace groupset though I’m not sure which one. Dura Ace wheels, probably tubular, but again not sure whether to go for C40/60. I’m leaning towards C60. Pros/cons?(4)
I also need to pick other components but don’t know what to get. Could someone identify for me the components used on the X-Light on the Pinarello website and also on Chris Froome’s bike if there is a difference.
- How long have you been riding?
- What’s your age, weight and height, are you really fast?
- Why this bike in particular?
- 60mm wheels will be more aero, 40mm better all round useage
Use your head over heart for the purchase. Be doubly sure you want to shed thousands out on a bike for just bling benefits. There are many more bikes much cheaper and just as good. Personally I would go with Ultegra and no more. There again, Im a type of guy who prefers one bike and change wheels/cass to suit the occassion.(Tripster V2)
Rapha Nadal
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BehindTheBikesheds wrote:Getting a high end bike with no idea on fit and less idea on comfort at the contact points is a disaster waiting to happen and would spoil the ride/not do a decent bike justice. As I daid, go chat with someone that knows something more than yourself at a club or decent shopThis should have been the first thing said on here, by anybody! Person with c£8,000 looking to build a best of breed with no idea what they’re doing?! Lovely.
don simon fbpe
Chris Froome, like other pros
Chris Froome, like other pros, is likely to be riding with components that are rebranded so as not to upset his own or team sponsors.
His choices of gear ratios will change depending on routes and terrain, and he’ll not be paying for these parts either.
Be like Chris, decide what you want for your needs, irrespective of what anyone/everyone else is riding. Be a leader and not a follower.
Canyon48
DoctorFish wrote:Hi. It is great that you can afford to buy yourself such a lovely bicycle. However, I’m sorry to say, but you are asking a lot of questions that you really should be knowing the answers to if you are going to pay out that much money. Gear ranges can to an extent be changed later, and changed to suit if you are going to be riding in different places. What gearing did the bike you borrowed have? Is it too high geared for you, or two low, is there a gear you feel is missing? Fit is harder to change, and if I was going to be spending even close to the amount you are spending I would be wanting very personal service from a very good bike shop.Consider picking up a secondhand bike, or a cheapish new bike, see what you like and don’t like about it. That can then become your winter/rough weather/leave it outside the shops bike. Big advantage of having more than one bike is that you can still ride if there is a problem with one of them.
This.
When you reference Pinarello and Chris Froome’s bike… Team Sky and their riders are sponsored by certain brands, they aren’t necessarily riding components or bikes that are the best.
Once you get beyond a certain price point with bikes, they’ll all be very very good. Let’s face it, if they hold up fine beneath pro cyclists during sprints, mere mortals like us here won’t be able to push the bike anywhere near the bikes limits.
Given that you describe yourself as not very experienced (not saying that I am!) and you aren’t sure what you want from a bike – let alone what groupset, I think it’d be sensible buy a good 105 level carbon road bike that you can use to get fitter and more experienced. A couple others have mentioned this it could become a winter/commuter bike.
I wouldn’t go and buy a power meter right away, they are great if you are seriously training for racing. Heart rate monitors are very affordable and great for understanding how your body behaves and they are very useful training tools (I bought one a month go and PR’d every local hill climb since – on my winter bike, which is a good 2kg over my summer bike).
hawkinspeter
If I were you, I’d get a
If I were you, I’d get a cheaper bike first off to get an idea of the kind of riding you’re going to be doing. You can get a decent Boardman’s road bike for about £1000 that’ll be fun to ride. Ride the hell out of that for a few months and then you’ll be in a much better position to know what kind of bike/riding suits you. Buying the best bike you can afford is all well and good, but you don’t want to end up regretting the choice you made.
Remember that the single most important criteria for choosing a bike is that you enjoy riding it, so you need to know you and your riding style better to make a good choice.
For what it’s worth, I’d recommend going for a cheaper groupset than Dura-Ace. Shimano Ultegra is the next best and is virtually the same except for a few more grams, but is a lot cheaper. The next step down is Shimano 105 which is a superb groupset that is a bit cheaper than Ultegra, but still performs brilliantly.
DoctorFish
Hi. It is great that you can
Hi. It is great that you can afford to buy yourself such a lovely bicycle. However, I’m sorry to say, but you are asking a lot of questions that you really should be knowing the answers to if you are going to pay out that much money. Gear ranges can to an extent be changed later, and changed to suit if you are going to be riding in different places. What gearing did the bike you borrowed have? Is it too high geared for you, or two low, is there a gear you feel is missing? Fit is harder to change, and if I was going to be spending even close to the amount you are spending I would be wanting very personal service from a very good bike shop.
Find yourself a good bike shop, get a bike fit, and sure buy a very expensive bike at the end of it, but get personal service and something that fits. Don’t just buy the most expensive bike you can afford becase it is what the current famous pro uses, you want something comfortable to ride and none of us can tell you what is comfortable for you to ride.
Also you could join a club. I never have, I like riding alone, but I’m sure you would get a wealth of knowledge there.
Consider picking up a secondhand bike, or a cheapish new bike, see what you like and don’t like about it. That can then become your winter/rough weather/leave it outside the shops bike. Big advantage of having more than one bike is that you can still ride if there is a problem with one of them.
Anonymous
Yes eventually I will be
Yes eventually I will be going to an LBS an try to see what fits/suits me. But this actually raises an important point: say the LBS doesn’t have components I like how can I be sure anything I research online will fit/suit? Or am I just limited to what they have available? I ask because I have a feeling the LBS would be quite limited though I do need to go check.
Also, if I don’t completely copy the bike for these reasons can you suggest good brands for these components that I can look into as well as further suggestions on models, materials, etc along with explanations so I can start learning.
The pina/Froome uses ‘pro’
The pina/Froome uses ‘pro’ bars and stem IIRC nowt wrong with them but how can you know if the components on there suit what you need, similarly the saddle and seatpost?
If you are set on the Pina for gods sakes get a bike fit at a well respected shop.
I would say you’re as much going to be better off with non std spec Pina/Froome components than with, experience usually tells you what is good/works well for you (not a pro tour winner).
Compact drops that have a flattish top might be a start, many pros like alu bars, me I much prefer carbon. Seatpost needs to have right amount of setback and yhe saddle that actually fits your atse not Chris Froomes!!
Getting a high end bike with no idea on fit and less idea on comfort at the contact points is a disaster waiting to happen and would spoil the ride/not do a decent bike justice.
As I daid, go chat with someone that knows something more than yourself at a club or decent shopThanks for that Grahamd. Not
Thanks for that Grahamd. Not sure how convenient that would be for me without further details though. Any idea if there’s an option to pay a certain amount and you get to try out various bikes or do you have to pay to use each bike a certain amount of time? Also how did you come across this? Any links etc?
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