20 mph speed assistance limit for E-bikes?

It’s a fair question. Visual
It’s a fair question. Visual deterrence (especially for teenage would-be shop lifters that don’t realise the security guards can’t do anything), can be useful for first aid. A lot of stores have known problem people that security guards follow around/ask to leave.

Well trained security guards can draft a good note as evidence for the police (it’s amazing how many people present assumptions as fact, which then can be ripped apart in court)

Of course the very best use for a security guard is for hiding security tags in their uniform so they keep setting the alarms off.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Rendel Harris wrote:

A friend had a similar experience with her bike being stolen at a sports centre where the guards claimed that they would lose their jobs if they intervened with anything outwith the parameters of the building (no idea if they were telling the truth). Obviously any parking is worthless if nobody polices it at all; the guards at my Sainsbury’s seem very good, one of them came out once when I was wrestling with a lock that wouldn’t open to check whether the bike was actually mine (and then offered to fetch some WD-40 to see if it would free it up) and another time a neighbour returned to find her bike wasn’t there, turned out she had forgotten to lock it and the guard had gone out and brought it inside for safekeeping.

Sadly, the guards probably are telling truth. A long time ago, the first thing we taught them was to not lay a hand on a shop lifter. In the store, the goods are not stolen yet (even if hidden in a bag or stuffed up a jumper). Outside the store, they are not insured and may find themselves on an assault charge.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Not sure it’s ever going to be that desirable to allow bikes in supermarkets unless they drastically increase the size of the aisles. What is needed is sensibly located bike parking; my local Sainsbury’s has the bike park right by the main entrance and in full view of the security guard station, never had nor even heard of a bike being stolen from there in 20 years.

My wife locked her bike outside a local city centre shopping centre, right next to the main entrance and in full view of the security guard station and the two guards on duty at the time. 

The diligent guards were more than happy to give her full details of the theft to pass on to the police when she went to reclaim it at the end of her trip, as they had watched the whole thing happen. 

Rendel Harris wrote:

Time for this?

Illegal – only one brake

Rezis wrote:

Would diabetes count?

Maybe if you telll them you urgently need to buy some jelly babies as you’re feeling hypo.

Sounds like a great idea. I

Sounds like a great idea. I wouldn’t want to do 15mph on most cycle lanes I’ve used but I’d happily stick to the road and go at 20mph.

To be fair, it’s not like

To be fair, it’s not like there’s much enforcement of the illegal e-bikes that can go way faster than 20mph anyway.

If it was GPS ringfenced, like rendel says, similar to the way drones won’t fly in certain areas, then it could work. It might even mean that less people are tempted to ride illegally modified bikes.