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Would people prefer it if we turned off commenting on reports of fatalities?

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  • December 13, 2013 at 4:43 pm #20346
    Tony Farrelly

     

    We don't have commenting on reports of court cases for legal reasons, but we could turn them off on reports of fatalities and witness appeals too – and then if people want to discuss aspects of what was reported they can do so by starting a forum thread instead rather than having arguments develop in the comments on the story about aspects of the report.

    Let me know what you think…

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  • April 10, 2014 at 10:46 pm #765817
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    mrfree

    No. Freedom of speech. If
    No. Freedom of speech. If people want to be assholes, let them. Then at least we know who they are.

    December 26, 2013 at 10:58 pm #765815
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    a.jumper

    Leave them on. Add at least a
    Leave them on. Add at least a “report comment” button and consider a “dislike” one. It’s better if comments are in one place rather than 1001 forum threads.

    December 24, 2013 at 8:57 am #765813
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    mooleur

    Ush wrote:allez neg wrote:I

    Ush wrote:
    allez neg wrote:
    I think its a good idea to turn comments off. I would have thought that anything said by a stranger on a cycling forum would be pifflingly insignificant to a person who has just lost a friend or loved one in a bike crash

    This +1000

    Agree also.

    December 23, 2013 at 1:34 pm #765811
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    therevokid

    off ….
    off ….

    December 23, 2013 at 11:49 am #765809
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    rockfield

    off please. Some of the
    off please. Some of the recent comments have been completely inappropriate

    December 22, 2013 at 3:23 pm #765807
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    FluffyKittenofTindalos

    Sven Ellis wrote:. The

    Sven Ellis wrote:
    . The problem with media reports of these inquests is that they tend to be long on human interest and short on the mechanics of what went wrong.

    To be fair, one can’t expect reports _at the time of the accident_ to be very clear about ‘what went wrong’, because at that point people might not really know. But what I find regrettable is that there seems so rarely to be much follow-up on such incidents when the court case or inquiry or whatever is eventually concluded, particularly when no-one is actually killed.

    There are many accidents that have occurred over the years at locations I know well, where I’d like to know what eventually was concluded – both so I can learn something from it myself, and because I want to be reassured that the victim got some kind of justice. Yet they just seem to disappear from the news with the eventual inquest result not being given much coverage.

    December 22, 2013 at 3:16 pm #765805
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    FluffyKittenofTindalos

    Agree with shouldbeinbed
    Agree with shouldbeinbed above.

    One minor side point though is that mainstream media news reporting on such incidents is not above sneaking in bits of editorialising and opinion even in the reports themselves. Most notably the ‘was/was not wearing a helmet’ stuff.

    December 22, 2013 at 3:07 pm #765803
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    Sven Ellis

    Tricky. You could leave the
    Tricky. You could leave the names out and moderate the comments. The problem with media reports of these inquests is that they tend to be long on human interest and short on the mechanics of what went wrong. The latter are of more use in avoiding a repetition. It’s a cycling forum. I’m not sure there’s anything particularly distasteful in references to Google Maps. I rather doubt whether anything on here is going to make any difference to the suffering of the poor young woman’s family and friends.

    December 21, 2013 at 4:21 pm #765801
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    Shouldbeinbed

    Off for me. I think anybody
    Off for me. I think anybody who has spent time on almost any forum will have come across the sort of person that is entirely convinced the rules and in many cases common sense and decency apply to everyone else but not them. There will always be somebody who will push the limit or expect to sell their own deeply rooted agenda and spark a response.

    I’d also echo the piffling impact of a succession of bland RIP messages trotted out almost by rote by complete strangers that would be the response to any of these sad reports, comments that in reality serve little purpose than background noise. Especially when compared to the tremendous hurt or upset that could be caused by a single crass or insensitive comment, however motivated, relating to the victim or the choices made/factors contributing to any such incident. In this day and age a single controversial or critical comment is more likely to get fed back to someone that knew them than a dozen pages of anodyne regret.

    To those saying instant and ruthless moderation, I’d ask about the practicalities of employing a team 24/7/365 to do this. How much of a subscription will you be happy paying to road cc to fund such an extravagant level of always on, always vigilant moderation?

    the best you could hope for from firmer moderation is approval prior to publication, but that will lose spontaneity or see a whole bunch of posts appear retrospectively after the shock of the story has passed & I feel that would further stifle what limited conversation was to be had from it.

    Its a given that we will feel the loss and regret for a fallen fellow rider but do we need to fill that void with triteness.

    December 16, 2013 at 12:00 pm #765799
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    teamjon

    Sympathy messages only – if
    Sympathy messages only – if you’re able to moderate them to enforce that policy. If not, turn the comments off and open a permanent thread of condolence.

    December 16, 2013 at 11:01 am #765797
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    Angus Barber

    Comments off or sympathy
    Comments off or sympathy comments only if there is bandwidth to moderate. All too often the comments descend into posturing about safety which should be separate from news reporting.

    December 16, 2013 at 7:25 am #765795
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    mattsccm

    Turn them off. They serve no
    Turn them off. They serve no purpose apart from winding people up.
    In fact I think comments on most news items are not needed. Its news not discussion. Its happened not something that we are being asked about.
    And finally comments mean and do nothing in the real world.
    Be a much nicer place.

    December 15, 2013 at 9:42 pm #765793
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    antigee

    my usual thought on threads
    my usual thought on threads is that if you don’t like the topic or content you don’t have to read them but this doesn’t really apply that well to the relatives or friends of those killed – having just read the thread that prompted this one my vote would be turn off comments – if someone wants to start a book of condolence thread then Ok and keep it at that – if people want to enter into speculative debate or inconsiderately and unwisely use someone’s death to promote their opinions then it can be in a separate thread. If it appears to offend or could be considered insensitive then just delete it. (Full stop)

    December 15, 2013 at 8:19 pm #765791
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    Anonymous

    we should be able to have a
    we should be able to have a grown up comments section, so leave it on.

    Why is there no ‘Dislike’ button next to comments – only the ‘Like’ option? As most of us are very sensible human beings it would certainly show up the openly offensive posters out there, and hopefully make them think twice next time.

    December 15, 2013 at 6:50 pm #765789
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    step-hent

    Definitely better to turn
    Definitely better to turn them off. A separate forum discussion is a much better idea.

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